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: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
: Put a charge counter on Coalition Relic.
At the beginning of your precombat main phase, remove all charge counters from Coalition Relic. Add one mana of any color to your mana pool for each counter removed this way.
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Coalition Relic Discussion
1 week ago
Angel lover myself, although all the angel-based decks I build always spiked when it was already too late in the game.
I like your creature but I have a couple of questions regarding your mana base: even with Land Tax, aren't 30 lands a bit too few, especially given your mana curve? Also, as it is a mono-white deck, why do you need Chromatic Lantern, Coalition Relic, Gateway Plaza, Guildmages' Forum, Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse? Personally I'd rather have a couple of good old extra plains instead.
1 week ago
I would suggest running a lot more mana rocks to try for a turn 3-4 Narset. Talisman of Progress, Fellwar Stone, Lotus Petal, Pentad Prism, Coalition Relic, Worn Powerstone, Basalt Monolith, and Copy Artifact should all be in here.
1 week ago
To get your extra turns/combats going you need to run a LOT more of these effects. I ran 17 myself including things like Ral Zarek.
The other thing I'd highly suggest is many more mana rocks. I'd also suggest all your rocks cost 2 mana or less (3 mana is ok if it adds more than 1 mana like Coalition Relic, Worn Powerstone, and Basalt Monolith) Your goal here should be turn 3-4 Narset and rocks that cost 3+ don't help here at all. Add all 3 Signets, Talisman of Progress, Fellwar Stone, Lotus Petal, Mana Vault and Pentad Prism. Also consider Generator Servant for ramp and haste.
Feel free to check out my list for some ideas, it was very competitive and fine tuned. Narset, American Beauty - Retired. Upvotes on any of my lists is appreciated.
1 week ago
I heard my name?
1 week ago
I have a few considerations for you.
Generator Servant - ramps 2 and gives haste to Narset. This is the ONLY creature I ran and I never regretted it.
Smoke - Great here!
Talisman of Progress/Signets/Fellwar Stone - Your mana rocks should all cost 2 or less. 3 cmc is ok if they produce more than 1 mana, i.e. Coalition Relic, Basalt Monolith and Worn Powerstone. Drop Darksteel Ingot, Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, and unless you really really need the fixing, Chromatic Lantern.
Pentad Prism - listing this one separately. Both counters can be removed at once and it's the only 2 mana rock that can ramp 2 colored mana.
Last is a favorite of mine in this deck. Ancestral Knowledge allows you to thin out and stack the top 10 cards for a mere 2 mana. This card is crazy good in Narset.
1 week ago
Coalition Relic is a solid mana rock that also combos well with Atraxa. I also noticed that you're not running Kalonian Hydra. He's awesome. Cauldron of Souls can interact very well with all of your creatures that generate +1/+1 counters.
2 weeks ago
First off, a big apologies for the delay in getting back into this comments section. Work got the better of me for a week and I've hardly had the time to get on here! Thank you all so much though for pitching in :) It's beyond appreciated!
I'll address each of you individually in here as well, but as a bit of general information, v1.1 of the deck is only incorporating changes from hkhssweiss as his suggested cards were the only cards I was able to get my hands on before the work rush. I do have some from other user's suggestions, but I wanted to get my hands on all suggested cards, not just the few I had.
Thankfully, I do now have a decent amount of spare time on my hands and will be visiting my LGS to purchase and try out all card suggestions within the next couple of days.
@MillersEdge - Wow, dude, what an effort you put into that, thank you ever so much! It's quite clear you know your stuff :)
Regarding ramp, I can certainly appreciate your observation. The lack of mana rocks in this deck is definitely a big thing. I really like the idea of Coalition Relic, Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice and believe all 3 of these will make it into v1.2. Forest retrieval cards are nice but can become dud draws fairly quickly in the game. I've added both Nature's Lore and Three Visits to the MaybeBoard anyway and will play-test with them as well. I want to get both Birds of Paradise and Noble Hierarch in somehow too.
Phyrexian Scriptures has also made it onto the MaybeBoard. It's certainly an eye-catcher with all 3 abilities having relevance, and I do like the idea of Saga's (never played them before). In saying that, one of the common players at my playgroup has both a Sharuum the Hegemon deck and a Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. We'll see how it goes.
In terms of the prison related cards, I'm actually probably going to move away from this plan, as to do it effectively you do seem to dedicate a large amount of slots. However, Spike Weaver genuinely looks amazing. I've no doubts that he'll see some MainBoard action in the future.
Privileged Position is currently in for a late game pillow fort strat involving Privileged Position, Sterling Grove and Avacyn, Angel of Hope. To be honest though, the three of these cards might be swapped later for others anyway as they really only hold relevance to themselves. Or I'll simply add Shalai, Voice of Plenty as well as Privileged Position as quite a few other users are also recommending it. Armageddon is hated at my playgroup, but I don't mind being 'that-guy' every so-often ;) I'll play test it this week and see what the general reaction is.
The walkers got a pretty big shuffle around since you might have last seen the deck, but I do see the relevance of Tezzeret the Seeker and Garruk Wildspeaker. Tezzeret the Seeker could come in handy if I can increase my mana rock amount, and I think I prefer the idea of him over Garruk Wildspeaker. Will get back to you with results.
Leyline of Anticipation has landed in the MaybeBoard with high chances of being MainBoarded. I genuinely forgot all about this badboy!
Really really like the idea of Nexus of Fate, looking forward to seeing what sort of shenanigans I might be able to pull off with that. Savor the Moment is definitely competitive, but the late game appeal of Nexus of Fate is striking me more.
I'll definitely jump onto your list as well and have a fish around :) As well as throwing in my own 2 cents! Thanks again.
@Aragon_Neotrix - Thank you! Definitely hearing you regarding proliferate-able targets. I'm hoping to improve on that in the next iteration with counter based mana rocks etc.
Aetherworks Marvel is amazing, hardly surprising it was banned in standard eh?! I did admittedly forget about energy and experience counters. I'm sure this is going to make it onto the MainBoard.
I'll take a closer look over your own version over the next day or two for some more proliferation ideas, and will throw in any suggestions I have myself :)
@ManSauce - Man, every suggestion here is on point. Thank you so much!
Captain Sisay is a card that wouldn't have occurred to me. Very likely become one of the main tutors in the deck. Mox Amber and Noble Hierarch - Yep. Definitely keen on both. Ramp is becoming the main concern of the next update.
Plaxcaster Frogling is another one that I don't think I ever would have found. Interested to see how I can use it. Shalai, Voice of Plenty has received a few recommendations now. I'll be likely to find a spot for this too. Llanowar Reborn could pretty much be an auto-include.
I've jumped onto your profile and bookmarked your own version to go over in more depth. Thanks heaps for the suggestions :)
@Jimmy_Chinchila Man I've been spamming Search for Azcanta Flip in Magic Arena lately and for whatever reason it didn't even occur to me here! Thalia's Lancers is indeed solid but I think it might lack by comparison to some other tutors. Regardless it's been added to play testing.
Forgive me for the bulk of cards sitting in the MaybeBoard, my worst ability is choosing what has to come out! Aha. As mentioned earlier though, I've setup a large chunk of time to go through all current suggestions over the next couple of days and look forwards to coming back to cull the list :)
Thanks heaps for the suggestions, I've also bookmarked yours to go over in more depth!
@hkhssweiss - You're more than welcome my man! :) Thanks heaps for coming back again! Aha.
Not to worry regarding the planeswalker suggestions. I may be a little rash with my initial judgement of Vraska, Golgari Queen but admittedly the current objective has me focused on getting other utility spells in over planeswalkers.
Assassin's Trophy is amazing. I'd expect to see this in just about every G/B deck moving forward! Likely to make it in, just need to allocate a spot. Djeru, With Eyes Open is definitely one I hadn't seen before! His second ability might just make him a prime tutor candidate. Windgrace's Judgment is also phenomenal. Most of my games have 5+ people making this awfully attractive.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty has popped up 3 times now making her impossible to ignore! xD Pir, Imaginative Rascal is beyond amazing and as the more important part of Doubling Season is almost guaranteed a spot.
Thanks heaps yet again my dude! I do more than appreciate you sticking around :)
Ty all! Now to testing, woo!
2 weeks ago
Very impressive first deck, you have lots of powerful toys here. But I think I may be of some assistance in helping you make it even stronger.
Since your deck is only at $189.9 I'm going to make the assumption you have a bit of a budget so I'll try and keep my suggestions fairly cheap.
Right away I notice you have most of the pieces for game ending combo's already in your deck. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion and similarly Phyrexian Devourer + Triskelion + Necrotic Ooze + Buried Alive make game ending combo's that are super reliable. With the Mikaeus + Triskelion combo, all you need to do is let the triskelion shoot a opponent twice while Mikaeus is on the field then kill itself with its last counter. The Triskelion will then come back onto the field due to Mikaeus, repeat this process an infinite amount of times and the game is all yours. Similarly, if you cast Buried Alive to put Triskelion and Phyrexian Devourer into the graveyard while a Necrotic Ooze is on the field you can use the phyrexian devourer ability to mill your entire deck while the Triskelion ability pings all your opponents to death.
And if you do decide to run that combo, I'd also recommend running Walking Ballista for added redundancy.
In more general deck building terms I think there are also a few upgrades you could easily do.
Mana Ramp is super important in EDH. Games are often won and lost based off of who ramped hardest. So with that in Mind I HIGHLY recommend adding more mana rocks to your deck. As a rule of thumb I'd like to say that 10ish mana rocks are best for your average deck. So since you have five I'd say aim for at least four more. Some decent ones you may want to consider would be:
- Everflowing Chalice
- Talisman of Dominance
- Mind Stone
- Worn Powerstone
- Thaumatic Compass Flip-personal favorite of mine
- Coalition Relic
- Thran Dynamo
- Hedron Archive
I also think that some of your choices for zombies could be a little stronger for EDH
What I would cut and why:
- Wight of Precinct Six This card seems like it would be good in EDH with there being six different graveyards, But unless you were to run a heavier mill package this card only ends up being a slightly larger than average beater that doesnt even have trample
- Gempalm Polluter This is a very good card in 1v1 games, but if you are playing three other players then just targeting a single player isn't worth much
- Vindictive Lich This is honestly a fine card, I just think that since you aren't abusing his death triggers that this spot might be better spent on a different zombie
- Twisted Abomination I just dont like this card very much
What you may want to consider adding:
And I personally like running at least two or three counterspells when I play in blue. Counterspell and Swan Song are probably the best if you're not looking to spend tons of money but there are tons to choose from.
And finally I think I would be doing you a great disservice if I didn't suggest you consider Cyclonic Rift.This card is absolutely bonkers in EDH and probably the single best blue spell in the game for EDH.
Sorry if it seems like I'm insulting your deck building capabilities. You really do have a pretty good core to work with here but as with any deck there were a few places I felt could be improved upon. But when it comes right down to it these are just my opinions and there are no hard rules for what makes a deck good or fun.
Hope all this helps!