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Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Planeswalker — Jace
+2: Look at the top card of target player's library. You may put that card on the bottom of that player's library.
0: Draw three cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your library in any order.
-1: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
-12: Exile all cards from target player's library, then that player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library.
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Jace, the Mind Sculptor Discussion
3 hours ago
Yeah I'm sorry, I really love From The Vault's Angels. :( You're right, they are not really fitting.
Do you think my Grixis deck is better ? I played this deck exclusively for a full year now and wanted some change; that's why I went this Miracle deck.
Thanks again for your attention !! Your help is much appreciate
10 hours ago
To be honest a miracle deck is supposed to be a control deck not a midrange deck. These are great cards but i really think they don't interact with the main idea of the deck.I saw you didn't bring brainstorm to the list so i suppose you want a "modern legal" deck. I don't think a miracle deck could ork without Brainstorm, Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Sensei's Divining Top. Your grixis deck looks really better than this.
1 day ago
I think the fundamental issue with unbanning Jace, the Mind Sculptor is that there is a very limited upside. I understand how good of a card he is, and how he functions as a lategame engine in control, but that honestly won't help control against Big-Mana decks, and he is generally ineffective against aggro decks to begin with, which means his impact will primarily be against fair decks and control decks, which... well, wasn't that more or less who we were trying to help in the first place?
I think Jace seems appealing since he is a good card in blue that slots into control decks and isn't broken in half, but the fact is I just don't think there are any cards on the banlist that can fix U-control decks issues in modern right now, without breaking something else (ie. Ponder/Preordain technically help u-control, but they help Grishoalbrand and Storm more).
2 days ago
Most would agree that Jace, the Mind Sculptor is the best planeswalker ever printed (although some might argue for Liliana of the Veil). It's been on the modern banlist as long as modern has been a sanctioned format, and at one time he would have snapped the format in half.
Modern is a very fast format today, but once upon a time, it was much more slow paced. for those not in the game at the time, I'd like you to take a look at the first 2 major modern events, and the decks that were played:
well, good to see Splinter Twin was alive and well even in the beginning. but how about some of those other decks. could you even imagine a top8 modern deck running Journey to Nowhere in todays format? or how about 2nd and 3rd place being pyromancer's ascencion?
NO FLIPPIN WAY!
in following years, control had a decent amount of power. control was a solid deck against Birthing Pod. after they banned pod, what happened? Splinter Twin and affinity swarmed to the forefront of modern. both extremely fast, extremely consistent decks. This was by far the strongest longterm metashift i've ever seen in a format. After the more recent twin ban, it only made things faster. We no longer have a blue control deck to slow the format down.
Unbanning Ancestral Vision was intended to bring back blue control, but i think we can agree that has not happened.
So lets talk about our 4-mana walker now. he's one of the most individually powerful cards ever printed; that is to say, he's good on his own. However, modern is a hyperspeed environment now, and his high mana-cost means he takes a long time to get out there. Decks like dredge, burn, and infect would probably be delighted that you wanted to tap out and play jace on turn 4.
What Jace would do is provide a much more secure lategame for blue control, assuming they can get there.
In Seth Manfield's article on a similar topic, he mentioned something i had not considered as a way to make this unban even more balanced. That would be to simultaneously unban Bloodbraid Elf. This is a card that was banned in an attempt to slow down the format, and it worked. however, the pace is much faster than it was at the time of this card's banning, anyway. that said, Bloodbraid Elf just makes Jace, the Mind Sculptor worse. It would hurt to play jace turn 4 only to have it immediately killed by a Bloodbraid Elf.
This is tricky, though, because unlike jace, Bloodbraid Elf would fit straight into an already tier 1 modern deck; namely, jund. I think this would be offset by jace's unbanning, though, since blue control is inherently good against grindy decks like jund. Long story short, I think they would balance each other out in the format.
I think Jace would be exactly the boost blue needs to come back into modern. This would be far better for the format than unbanning twin, and I genuinely believe it would shake up modern in a fantastic way.
Thanks for reading! I hope to hear some other people's thoughts on this topic. =)
If you'd like to read Seth Manfield's article on potential unbans for modern, here it is:
2 days ago
Winterblast, they would be fun, there just isn't any room for them atm, may very well be cards I look at later, I make changes all the time bc I've played this deck for so many years. Jace, the Mind Sculptor just recently came out, I still keep him in the Oloro binder, destined to find his way back one day...Tezzeret the Seeker on the other hand, isn't one i've ever looked at for the deck, but I could see where it would be fun...Isochron Scepter, Mimic Vat, Aetherflux Reservoir. could be a great way to tutor + play it. the Words of Wind would be a lot better if I didn't have to retrun my things aswell...with the rumor of Cyclonic Rift possibly getting the ban it wouldn't be a bad replacement when that time comes. Words of Worship would be fun, but not needed...how much life I have doesn't really matter with the deck, as long as I just get the triggers, and also I need my cards lol. thanks for your input though.
2 days ago
Looks fine in general, I would include some of the better planeswalkers though, especially Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Tezzeret the Seeker . Words of Wind and Words of Worship are also great with Oloro.
3 days ago
Yeah, still bad, but slightly more passable. Repeatable Brainstorm would be awesome, but then again, you could be doing better things. Although a UW control deck with Jace, the Mind Sculptor and a few Miracles cards wouldn't be the worst. Maybe a Terminus or two as extra Wrath of God/Supreme Verdict, that's way cheaper. But this is one, hypothetical, and two, probably not gonna happen (that's a whole other topic though).
3 days ago
I'll just come out and say i tried to make this happen a year or two ago. Terminus ends up being very lackluster. The allstar card for this deck in modern is Temporal Mastery. Entreat the Angels can work as a one or two of for a win condition, but it's arguable that there are better ways to close a game in modern control.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor would be a gamechanger. the ability to put an otherwise dead miracle card from your hand, to the top of your library is what makes the deck so consistent in legacy