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Torpor Orb Discussion
4 days ago
Ahh, I've gone up against different meta's that use combo-kill. Sadly black is not too good at using tax effects to stop combos naturally.
What I can recommend to better go against a combo-kill meta in general would be:
Mind Slash: Repeatable Hand-Disruption.
Torpor Orb: Stops abusable ETB effects.
Damping Sphere: Kills Storm or Repeatable-Cast combos.
Blood Artist: Counters death-loop combos.
Mesmeric Orb: Ruins combo decks that don't run recursion.
Null Rod: Stops artifact combos.
Hex Parasite: Repeatable kill target planeswalker.
Orb of Dreams: Denies loops that bounces or blinks lands, artifacts, or hasty creatures.
Orbs of Warding: Combos that target players or deals 1 damage per loop means nothing to you.
Every combo is different, so I gave a generic list. I'd only consider the cards listed that apply specifically to your meta, however; Mind Slash would probably do wonders for your deck.
6 days ago
I'm digging your shenanigans. You've definitely opened my eyes to a number of weird interactions that I would not have thought of otherwise.
I fear some of the fun you want to pull off with Mirrorweave wont work because you aren't given priority on other people's turns until after the beginning of upkeep triggers are put on the stack (No one has priority during untap step).
There's a lot of stack response trading that makes this deck so scary. Have you thought about flicker effects like Long Road Home or Mistmeadow Witch which could remove your Torpor Orb-creature Effects long enough to do their damage to other boards but come back for stacks later. It also doubles as protection or regaining control of something if someone is going out of the game.
Best wishes! and +1 indeed
1 week ago
Damnation, while it is a nice card, is almost never helpful. I can usually get to Ensnaring Bridge with no cards in time to render it, for all intents and purposes, useless. And Mesmeric Orb sort of has the same win more quality. This deck is only a mill deck in that it kills your opponents by having them draw to death, but getting cards into graveyards is only really my goal if they deal me damage or destroy my artifacts or something. Pithing Needle basically takes out any usage I have of Torpor Orb and Orb of Dreams hurts me too much. Winter Orb isn't modern legal.
1 week ago
1 week ago
Hey skinken, thanks for taking the time to give some good feedback. Tutors are for sure the way to class up the deck, and I used to have a few more than I do now. I've done a bit of tuning since then to keep them to a minimum and really just add room for fun stuff. The tutors I've got are Wild Research, Ring of Three Wishes, and Expedition Map turns into Inventors' Fair. I'll be sure to add Gamble though probably in place of the Ring of Three Wishes because I think that's hilarious and even kinda sums up the deck.
I do agree that it's not always the best idea to have things in your deck that totally cancel other things. The Akroan Horse is pretty mediocre in general and might even be due for a cut, but the Desolation Giant is more of a circumstantial piece. Like if i throw him under a Summoner's Egg, or enchant him with a False Demise and give that away. Torpor Orb is an awesome card and certainly makes a lot of the deck function but I prefer my Hushwing Gryff to him instead since I can control when I want to block with it to get it off the board and do big stuff. Bruna, the Fading Light is actually a cast trigger instead of an ETB but if it wasn't I would totally agree that it's stupid, so thanks for having my back. I avtually Added her and gisela in because I recently broke down a deck that had them in it and I have a fair enough amount of card draw to hopefully make Brisela, Voice of Nightmares happen on occasion
The farie artisians thing is sick though, I'll add a list of dumb funny things that I've been able to pull off like that. I think you'll get a kick out of it.
1 week ago
Roryrai thanks for the tips! they will be taken into consideration for the next deckupdate.
your thoughts on Scrap Trawler are interesting, I usually don't really like cards that don't do anything on their own, and I wonder if I run enough artifact sac.
overall you have given me some things to think about, your contributions are greatly appreciated!
1 week ago
The idea seems very fun, but with no tutor's pretty inconsistent. Since you are not in green I would suggest running an artifact tutor package to get Torpor Orb. Besides being easier to fetch, being an artifact makes it a lot easier to stick on the board through the many creature board wipes in multiplayer edh. I'm a big fan of Whir of Invention myself, and Fabricate is great too. Although a little more pricey, Gamble is totally worth it too, it even synergizes well with all the draw form. Other options include Hoarding Dragon if you wanna go cheap, or Enlightened Tutor if you want to go expensive. Running artifact tutoring means more Despotic Scepter and hate pieces like Pithing Needle (another favorite of mine, it is SO much better than I first thought)
There are a couple of cards in the deck I don't like as much, mainly because they don't work well with Torpor Orb in play: Akroan Horse, Bruna, the Fading Light and Desolation Giant. Remember that the tokens given to your opponents are not owned by you:
From the Comprehensive Rules (Dominaria (April 27, 2018)) 110.5a A token is both owned and controlled by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield.
Desolation Giant is bad with Torpor Orb as well as without it compared to a card like Phyrexian Rebirth. If you really want the Brisela, Voice of Nightmares, and don't care that you have little to no tutors and a deck that really tries hard to stop the reanimation trigger, I won't be one to stop you, Brizzy is pretty dope ;)
Cool that you are having success with such a wild build though! Hf my guy
2 weeks ago
I know it doesn't fit your gameplay much but I would think about adding some countrol/removal to the deck.
Good luck with your deck it's pretty kickass.