As an additional cost to play Crop Rotation, sacrifice a land.
Search your library for a land card and put that card onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Crop Rotation Discussion
20 hours ago
Thank you for your praise, I am really proud of my primer and its been my main project for so long. My next goal is to figure out how to make text colored so I could start making sections like "sacrifice" or "discard" which will make the lists more process-able.
wombatula I know of a few powerful legacy Golgari decks. The main premise of these decks is the use of turn 1 discard (Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek) disruption like Pithing Needle, Phyrexian Revoker, or Surgical Extraction and green for land ramp (Sylvan Scrying or Crop Rotation). It's important to have a good finisher in this kind of deck, which can easily be a set of Wurmcoil Engines for modern or 4 Vampire Hexmages and 4 Dark Depths with Not of This World support for legacy. Abrupt Decay or Maelstrom Pulse will be important additions based on whether you need hard removal or not, I would highly suggest the former if your meta is competitively fast and has dirty blue players.
Many legacy and modern STAX decks go for a full artifact plan (often called mono brown) which is very strong but a hard investment $ wise. This version is the cheaper path, focusing on ramping up for a win condition with Elvish Spirit Guides, Lotus Petals and land search along the lines of the ramp cards I mentioned above while removing, disabling, and forcing discards. If your win condition is a land Dark Depths being the best example, then cards like Thespian's Stage and Crop Rotation gain immense value as they can become or search up niche items like Wasteland, Bojuka Bog, or even a Sejiri Steppe to give the Marit Lage or a Wurmcoil Engine the evasion it needs to kill.
I hope this was helpful, for more 60 card stax advice I would look at the site MTGtop8 or look up "mono brown stax" for other examples. Finding specific Golgari ones can be difficult so I tried to give you as much advice as I could.
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The thing with Tron is that you generally want to be casting big threats without relying too heavily on coloured mana lands. Splitting resources into getting both lands that produce coloured mana and a lot of colourless mana is never optimal. You're gonna have time casting your big guys like Prime Speaker Zegana and Overbeing of Myth if your lands tap for colourless.
So, the most optimal way for a Tron deck to get coloured mana is through artifacts. These are spells to cast with your Urza lands early in the game to get a foothold while devoting all your land searching to the colourless Tron lands. Spells like Chromatic Sphere, and possibly Chromatic Star should you be willing to shell out $20 for the set allow for quick, cheap fixing and what's better is that they replace themselves in your hand. As for more permanent fixing, Prophetic Prism is a great card to have, as it replaces itself and one more mana allows it to stick around. Mana Cylix, Prismatic Lens, and Simic Signet are other good fixing options.
Another benefit to having mostly artifacts in Green Tron is that you can run Ancient Stirrings, but at $5 a pop (another $20 for the set) it's far from budget. Sylvan Scrying is a really good fixing option in the realm of Sorceries, as you can grab any land you want.
Now you need some threats. Birthing Hulk is a great regenerating threat that gives you blockers to defend yourself while he gets in. Deepfathom Skulker can be a great way to grab some more cards and make your other threats sure to get in some damage. Steel Hellkite can really be devastating to our opponent, especially if they play aggro and fail to stabilize in time.
2 days ago
Mj3913 Thanks for the suggestions!
I'm thinking about taking out all the nonvital artifacts/enchantments so adding Fires of Yavimaya is iffy. Anger is surprisely expensive, and though i think it's better than Surrak, the Hunt Caller that's what i have for now.
The 7 mana removal options kinda don't do it for me. I think the idea that your removal should cost less than what you're removing sounds smart, especially when we're talking about a 7 mana kill one thing. That's not great in commander, I think at least.
bushido_man96 I like your ideas!
Crater Hellion is interesting. It's going to kill radha, at the very least, and I think I'd need to retool the creatures at least a little to ensure i don't lose too much.
Groundskeeper is good after a land wipe, but only in certain situations. The land kill spell almost has to be Epicenter, all the others kill it if it's out. I think it might be too slow right now, but I'll need more playtesting to see.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor Thanks for explaining your reasoning about Crop Rotation! I agree it's a good card, but it's not very powerfull by itself and kinda expensive($) so i think i'll leave it out for now.
Growth Spasm could go in, it's basically a 2 land ramp that has a least a marginal upside late game. Thanks for suggesting this one!
Argothian Wurm seems like a trap. It's just a big dude, and it might time walk me. especially if people are spitefull after a land wipe haha.
Ember Swallower seems so lackluster, if only it was a mini wildfire on monstrosity!
2 days ago
Also, Trinket Mage with only one target to tutor for is awfully weak. It's a great card but you need some sort of toolbox to make it relevant in any stages of the game. For example Pithing Needle, Engineered Explosives (nice with Academy Ruins and Crop Rotation/Sylvan Scrying to tutor for it, also makes a good pile for Intuition with Crucible of Worlds/Academy Ruins/Engineered Explosives or Regrowth), Aether Spellbomb or some mana rocks such as Mana Vault, Voltaic Key, Lotus Petal, Chrome Mox and a bit more expensive Mana Crypt, Mox Opal, Mox Diamond.
I wouldn't recommend lands like Simic Growth Chamber, because they are very much fun for the first person, who happens to have a Strip Mine, Wasteland or any other land removals in the early game and it sets you back like 3 turns. It happened so often and recently I've not seen anyone play these lands anymore because they are so risky. If you combine them with Amulet of Vigor (also a target for Trinket Mage) they are good, but alone they suck.
2 days ago
My bad, I didn't see Splendid Reclamation in your list. In regards to Crop Rotation, while it's true you don't have a specific land to search for, it still helps out Centaur Vinecrasher and Terravore (if you run it). It will also trigger Omnath, Locus of Rage and Rampaging Baloths at instant speed which can't be overlooked. Also, Growth Spasm might be an option. It only finds one land, but the eldrazi scion can block and act as a pseudo-land.
2 days ago
If your meta has alot of combat matters decks, then instant speed removal is indeed a must. Kodama's Reach could be replaced by Armillary Sphere for a similar effect, but coming down on turn 2 (dodging 3 mana counters) and being an artifact (dodging sorcery hate counters like Flusterstorm) you could also try Crop Rotation to find a non basic land (at the cost of a land) you could also use Land Tax given your land hate. if you blow up all lands, you will probably get a land tax trigger. you could also try Far Wanderings if your deck has threshold consistently enough.
2 days ago
Hey dude, huge fan of the deck! Saw it on reddit, i really love the high tide package as well.
I would have to agree with Silber here, why not sub out Lotus Petal for Mox Diamond? I also think Wood Elves looks a bit weak here, maybe swap it out for Gamble. I understand it gives you a spot on the curve for Birthing Pod, but I'd rather have a Deceiver Exarch or Eternal Witness or recruiter 9.9/10 times. If you need ramp with GSZ, you have other options as well, even if they dont net you mana that turn.
I'm also not huge on Treasure Cruise. I mean its amazing, but does this really want to have to exile your gy and tap out for 3 cards? I like Dig Through Time a lot more (i see its included already), just because its an instant and gives you mana to interact on your opps' turns. Cruise is good, but in my experience, it can be challenging to fill up that graveyard enough. What do you think of Crop Rotation in here? boseiju seems really good with your big spells, and even cavern of souls could be decent. It might be nice to tutor up that protection.
Anyways, huge fan of the deck! I play rafiq in cedh, so its nice to see someone else with a tier 2 general trying to rep it out there. I really think we have the stuff it takes to compete, theres just not a lot of people who are still working on midrange decks like this in the format.