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|Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis||Common|
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|2010 Core Set||Common|
|Shards of Alara||Common|
|Promo set for Gatherer||Common|
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Creature — Elf Shaman
When Elvish Visionary enters the battlefield, draw a card.
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Elvish Visionary Discussion
4 days ago
Thanks for the tips! I am trying not to spend more than $5 per card and I was considering running Elvish Visionary instead of Sylvan Messenger or Dwynen's Elite perhaps? Though I really do like how Sylvan Messenger can get me multiple elves. I liked Rhonas's Monument since he makes getting more elves cheaper and gives me a boost on any creature. I do like your suggestions for instants though.
5 days ago
I made a comment but will need some time to correct it my apologies.
6 days ago
Raediaent This deck may seem non budget because of the lands, but I just put those in so playtesting would be better, so no Kitchen Finks. I don't plan to be putting a lot into the graveyard so I might just side board Eternal Witness. Oath of Nissa would only be useful for ETB effect and nothing else, and I might not even get full potential out of the ETB. I will think about Elvish Visionary
6 days ago
1 week ago
Elvish Visionary is sweet for some card draw. Nice tribal deck!
1 week ago
1 week ago
Thanks for the reply!
So what would your thoughts be regarding having the Kiki-jiki combo in Animar? I know that a number of people consider it too slow and awkward with its mana requirement, but it does come with the benefit of being a 2-piece infinite combo that doesn't required Animar on the board. Cards like Eldritch Evolution and Vizier of the Menagerie have also gone a long way to making the combo more accessible.
Kiki-jiki combo pieces do take up a number of slots though, and can warp how the deck plays. Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch tie in well with Cloudstone Curio combos but they also make you compromise deck space that could go to other functions like more ramp, card draw, or silver-bullet cards like Scavenging Ooze.
When I first saw your list, I was surprised that it did not include Wirewood Symbiote because I thought it was a powerhouse for netting extra value and Animar counters with cards like Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Elvish Visionary, and Reclamation Sage. Would you say that there just aren't enough elves in the deck to make the Symbiote's inclusion worthwhile, or was it excluded for another reason?
1 week ago
I'm really going back and forth over how I want to build my Modern Elf deck. At the crux of this deliberation are three artifacts which all seem to offer tremendous opportunities, depending on how its built.
My first thought was Staff of Domination for the infinity loop it offers with Elvish Archdruid - those two cards hit the table with any kind of support and its game over, while in the meantime I just run a traditionally aggressive Elf deck, perhaps with some Heroic Intervention to keep the key parts of the combo safe.
My second thought was building a Elf recursion deck around Cloudstone Curio, specifically using elves that create an effect as they come into play, like the aforementioned Shaman of the Pack, Elvish Visionary, Reclamation Sage, Elvish Harbinger and Sylvan Messenger. Even Joraga Warcaller works here because it can be cast early for (G) and then picked up and recast with the kicker when the mana production explodes. In fact, with this version I'm finding myself with a bit of 'option paralysis', where including everything that looks good might lead me taking too few of anything, making my ideal draw less and less likely. Something like this (Elven Curiosity), maybe.
My final consideration was lifecrafter's beastiary. I've actually run Elf decks with 42 elves and nothing else but lands and had them be very effective. I can't help but think that the added draw (and scry) that the Bestiary gives me could really speed up the game - but by the same token, I don't want to get drug down by casting it and re-casting it as my opponent bounces, counters or destroys it.
I've toyed around with a host of non-creature cards - green staples like Heroic Intervention, Collected Company and Chord of Calling - and I'm not specifically opposed to including them, but again, I've found success and synergy going all-Elf in the past. I guess I'm wondering if working towards those combos is pulling me away from the strength of Elves or, if done correctly, might instead help me maximize what they can do. It seems like the Staff of Domination combo might be too specific, but its not as if the deck wouldn't be strong even if the combo never comes out. The Cloudstone Curio combo might be too unfocused, though it does offer quite a bit of versatility. Card draw is so important, hence Lifecrafter's Bestiary... ugh.
Another part of me thinks that sticking with my original 42 so that I don't have to worry about protecting my artifacts and not having any non-creature spells in the deck at all could actually give me an advantage in wasted draws by my opponent. After all, the entire reason I lean hard towards Elf decks is the speed and efficiency with which they can overwhelm an opponent. I'm so conflicted...
Here's what it comes down to - if I were going to run an Elf deck with 38 Elf spells and 18 lands, which artifact would you suggest to fill those 4 remaining card slots, and why it over the other options available? Any insights would be most appreciated...