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Creature — Elf Shaman
When Elvish Visionary enters the battlefield, draw a card.
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Elvish Visionary Discussion
2 days ago
Finally I would get a Nettle Sentinel as a 4 of in this deck. Drop your Silhana Ledgewalker and Thornweald Archer. Would maybe throw archers in sideboard cause without opposing flyers, it doesnt seem all that great.
Sorry if it was a bit mean but it is a good deck dont get me wrong. just if your gonna run 16 lands, you need more mana sources to make up for it and less cmc creatures.
2 days ago
If you think you might like playing this deck, I'm happy to offer some pointers.
So, Sun Titan + like Wasteland or Eternal Witness is bananas with Karador, Ghost Chieftain in play. Yes, I will cast titan, with his trigger target e-wit and bring back my Swords to Plowshares to negate your blocker for next turn when I swing with titan. I hope you have an answer!
Solemn Simulacrum with a sac trigger is fun. Summon solemn, go get a land. Cast Cartel Aristocrat or even better Yahenni, Undying Partisan for his haste and sac solemn...draw a card + yahenni's indestructible.
So far, everything in this deck has played magically. The ramp spells seem to be just enough without overloading with extra lands and not being able to draw relevant spells. The removal and board wipes are adequate and efficient. The 187 effects (Ravenous Chupacabra, Noxious Gearhulk, Shriekmaw) are amazing. Fleshbag Marauder also adds an element to search out with a Birthing Pod on the field.
An example for pod against a creature-based opponent would be to like pod an Elvish Visionary into Fleshbag Marauder, and cast visionary again off karador. Note to the wise, marauder can hit your own problem dudes too, with a lockdown effect or something that makes you lose life (Stab Wound is the only thing that comes to mind). Then you pod a 3 cmc into chupacabra, pod the chupacabra into Thragtusk, Shriekmaw, or even more fun into Karmic Guide (target your chupacabra back to 187 something else) and have your cake while eating your opponents board.
Ashen Rider with High Market is fun as well. Your opponents watch you get the rider into play...blow up a land or something of value. Then, if you have the market in play, NEVER EVER EVER use it unless your opponent is tapped out or if you have no other choice, because of the stack. If you choose to use the High Market to sac your dudes, they can exile in response and you lose your dude... no recast triggers for karador.
Stuff to look out for include Bojuka Bog or any graveyard exile effects. Though I haven't seen them played, Torpor Orb and Grafdigger's Cage both hose us. We still have ways around these types of cards, but you must be cognizant of the possibilities to always NOT overextend too far. Like your opponent has two lands in play and is needing to get to like 4 or 5 to be relevant. So, you go over the top summoning everything, your opponent hits a third land and hits you with Bontu's Last Reckoning and follows it up with a Bojuka Bog. Save a creature or two instead of putting your entire hand on the battlefield. Your opponent is on two lands. You don't have to summon everything and get it over in two turns.
Ok, ok, ok. So everyone HAS to have like an infinite combo or way of "going off", right? Well Karmic Guide with a Reveillark and a sac outlet means infinite ETB's and possibly infinite other things....like Acidic Slime. You cast Reveillark with guide in the graveyard and when Reveillark ETB's, you choose your targets and then sac Reveillark. With guide as one of your targets, you target the newly sac'ed Reveillark, rinse and repeat. With Acidic Slime, you blow up all of your opponents' artifacts, enchantments, and lands. With chupacabra, you board wipe. With Satyr Wayfinder you mill yourself out.
1 week ago
On the off chance you find any of these ideas worth trying out, here are some things you may want to drop for them (depending, of course, on how you want to balance outlets and targets and such).
Bane of Progress. You use enough enchantments and artifacts for him to be pretty iffy most of the time. Not worth the space, really.
Big Game Hunter does some work, but not until later in the game.
Birds of Paradise, there's better ramp out there that thins out you deck.
Deathrite Shaman is a versatile card, but what it does other cards do better.
Joraga Treespeaker is pretty inefficient, bla bla bla thins out your deck, I hate to be a broken record.
Withered Wretch seems pointless.
Awakening Zone doesn't seem to do much work.
Just a note: strictly judge all of your noncreature spells, especially instants and sorceries. I think you already do though because the ones you have are really good!
Anyway yeah, enough of me giving you a friggin essay every comment. Have a nice day and maybe take some suggestions? If you want? Idk, happy brewing!
1 week ago
this deck will be run over by any and all budget'ish modern deck. Way too many spells, and too many of them at high cost. Early Harvest? Won't be needed much, since you ramp on creatures, not on lands. Explore is a good card, if you have a bunch of lands... but you don't. You have 20. Spending turn 2 on paying 2 mana to play a land is not really a great idea - actually it's a terrible idea. It draws a card? Sure it does. But so does Elvish Visionary, which you haven't found space for. Cultivator of Blades is a 5 mana card in a deck that shouldn't go higher than 3 mana. And there's 4 of them. 1, at most, and that's because it becomes a SURPRIIIISEE!!! Wincon! Joraga Treespeaker is mostly a 3 mana Elvish Mystic - and that's only after you've spent time levelling it up. Isn't it better to just get the 1-mana dork, and avoid all the difficulties of upgrading.
I think the "mainstream" elves decks all use Heritage Druid, Nettle Sentinel, and Collected Company (all of them as 4-ofs) to get their creatures on the table fast. Elvish Archdruid and Ezuri, Renegade Leader provide the beatsticks to close the game. I also think there's a reason they all do so - it might just be the skeleton that allows elves to be a deck at all (a bit like 12 lords and aether vial is for merfolk).
2 weeks ago
So, I used to run this deck when you could add multiple lands whenever Azusa ETBs. I feel that Cloudstone Curio, Elvish Visionary, and Aluren would bust this deck and give you all the card draw you want!
2 weeks ago
This is a great start to your own take on modern elfs. If I can make a few suggestions, I think this deck can become very competitive.
1st: one thing you want to focus on in modern is having very impactful turns 1 and 2. To enable this, you should consider playing less 3 drops and more 1 and 2 drops. A few cards I would recommend is: Elvish Mystic (more copies of llanowar elfs is always good), Heritage Druid+Nettle Sentinel (means butt tons of mana very quickly), and Dwynen's Elite (gives you multiple elves at once).
2nd: a big problem that people have when they have too much mana is that they alread cast all their cards in hand and need to draw more. Especially in green, drawing cards is hard. Here are a couple good draw spells for elfs: Elvish Visionary (is an elf for your elf synergies, draws you a card too), and Lead the Stampede is one of the best ways to refill your hand in a creature heavy deck.
3rd: end game closers are important. Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger is definitely a way to close the game. However, 10 mana is pretty hefty, even for an elf deck. Here are some suggestions, maybe not to replace ulamog, but maybe to go along side: Ezuri, Renegade Leader is the most popular way to win the game in elfs because if you have tons of mana you get tons of damage (also he can be found with Collected Company), Craterhoof Behemoth is a very fun way to win (the more creatures you have, the more you win), Hornet Queen though it doesnt just win you the game, it is able to make it very hard for your opponent to attack you and puts you in a very good position to win.
I hope you found this helpful and I know you'll enjoy the modern format. If you want to fine more cool decks, check out my tapped out page or my podcast: mtgcoldbrew.buzzsprout.com
2 weeks ago
In my opinion, what a deck that forces people to sac wants is a)tokens b)cheap cantrip creatures c)recursion. A) Ophiomancer, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Awakening Zone. B) Solemn Simulacrum, Elvish Visionary, Wall of Blossoms, Grim Haruspex, Phyrexian Rager. C) Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Golgari Thug, Doomed Necromancer, Apprentice Necromancer, Hell's Caretaker.
Like the others said, you also NEED some ramp up in this. I would also say to consider cutting some of your higher cmc creatures in favor of cheaper cards or stronger cards (i.e. sheoldred)
I also see that you have a dictate and no Grave Pact. Sure, the BBB1 can be hard to pay, but with proper ramp and mana fixing it isn't a big deal.
2 weeks ago
Coiling Oracle - Not always ramp, but always replaces itself in terms of card advantage. Compare it to an Elvish Visionary or a Baleful Strix that are good in the first place and you'll notice that even if it isn't guaranteed ramp, it's still a gamble that's worth it.
Farseek - Great colorfixing when you have dual lands, and you want a couple of CMC2 ramp to get the ball rolling.
Nature's Lore - You need shocks for this to be worth it in a three-color deck, otherwise it's too inconsistent for colorfixing.
Deathrite Shaman - One of the best manadorks available if you have fetches and/or you run self-mill, since it ramps you in the early game and can grave hate in the late game.
Chromatic Lantern - You don't need a lot of mana rocks when you're in green, but this one's utility is good enough when you're 3+ colors. Can help with activating Tasigur, the Golden Fang more, especially when you have Training Grounds out and colored mana is the limiting factor.
Harrow - Instant speed ramp is good if you want to save mana for counterspells/removal, and land sacrifice is good for self-mill/recursion synergies.
Realms Uncharted - Technically not ramp but it's both card advantage and dumping stuff into the graveyard, while fetching your 4 strongest lands and forcing your opponent to choose between bad and worse.
Fork in the Road - Not land ramp, not very impactful, but dumping stuff into the graveyard while colorfixing ain't too bad. Maybe a bit sad to get this one back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability, but that's what delve is for.
Exploration - It's ramp that requires you to have a lot of card draw or things like Crucible of Worlds and Oracle of Mul Daya, but can lead to stupidly fast starts of dumping your hand and recovering with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability. Definitely stronger than Burgeoning.
Animate Dead - One of the best reanimation spells in the game by far.
Victimize - Even if you're not focused on reanimation, getting back 2 creatures for only 3 mana and something to sacrifice is very often worth it. The more self-mill you have, the more targets you get.
Regrowth - The original Eternal Witness which is cheaper but less abusable. Very good in conjunction with Tasigur, the Golden Fang since you can force your opponent to choose between the things you want or Regrowth which lets you get what you want.
Seasons Past - Card advantage recursion, very good in general and even better when self-milling to give yourself lots of choices.
Grapple with the Past - Instant speed recursion for 2 that also dumps stuff into your graveyard.
Nyx Weaver - Not an amazing creature, but can be dropped early as a blocker and some slow value self-mill only to be used as recursion in the late game.
Fact or Fiction - Drawing the best 1-4 cards out of your top 5 at instant speed for 4 mana is makes this one of the best cards for one-off card draw, especially when the rest end up in your graveyard for delve/recursion.
Baleful Strix - Only replaces itself in terms of card draw, but a flying deathtouch blocker for 2 mana is a very annoying deterrent.
Windfall - Very good card advantage if your game plan is to dump your hand such as with Burgeoning and Exploration effects and fills up your graveyard with the things you discard, but risky since it can help opponents with draw/recursion/reanimation.
Whispering Madness - Extra copy of Windfall if you want one. Cipher can be good if you have stupid amounts of mana for dumping your hand, but not worth one more mana if you're deciding between this or Windfall.
Necropotence - Not great in 3+ colors where it gets hard to cast and not really necessary when you have blue, but still stupidly good with enough life and mana.
The Gitrog Monster - Very strong draw engine since he triggers off of sacrifice, discard and mill. Also a 6/6 deathtouch for 5.
Pull from Tomorrow/Stroke of Genius/Blue Sun's Zenith - Lots of card draw if you have lots of mana, great when you're ramping hard and dumping your hand. Pull from Tomorrow is the best one for card draw because it digs one deeper, but the other two can mill someone to death with enough mana.
Taigam, Sidisi's Hand - CMC5 and needs a turn to do anything is not great, but the filtering and creature removal is alright if he survives.
Lim-Dl's Vault - Incredibly good card selection. It's card disadvantage in itself but you can easily dig through your library until you get a pile that gives you card advantage plus playable cards.
Sensei's Divining Top - One of the best cards for card selection. Use its first ability before using Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability to help force certain cards into your hand, then use the first ability again to dig even deeper into your library.
Sylvan Library - Very good card for card selection, becomes stupidly good with lifegain and/or fetches for shuffling.
Satyr Wayfinder - Cheap way to get stuff into your graveyard, sorcery speed but creatures are more abusable than instants/sorceries.
Compulsive Research - Great source of card selection since 1. you get to draw before discarding, 2. you can discard anything from your hand, not just from the three you drew, 3. it can be card advantage if you discard the right thing.
Thirst for Knowledge - Like Compulsive Research except a lot better because it's instant speed, and slightly worse because you'll have more opportunity to discard and recur lands compared to artifacts.
Beast Within - Can target anything, so one of the best pieces of spot removal in the format.
Sultai Charm - Very flexible removal or decent card filtering, one of the best charms available.
Reclamation Sage - Removal on legsthat can chump block, be cloned, reanimated etc.
Krosan Grip - Very strong removal, can't be countered and can stop problem cards like Oblivion Stone and Necropotence.
Murderous Cut - Creature removal for 1 is very good, as long as you have enough stuff to delve away.
Abrupt Decay - Slightly too restrictive in commander unless you play in a combo heavy meta, but still worth considering.
Nature's Claim - Removal for 1 is very very good. It's arguable whether this or Krosan Grip is better if you can only choose one.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death - Not very good, but pretty fun and good value if you have a lot of mana.
Vraska the Unseen - Unconditional removal: good. Sorcery speed for 5 mana: bad. Planeswalker with 2 loyalty left after you removed something: not great, but fun.
Scavenging Ooze - Targeted grave hate for cheap is great.
Toxic Deluge - The best creature board wipe in the format, bar none.
Pernicious Deed - One of the best board wipes in your colors. Can be asymmetrical if you have the most expensive stuff, can kill tokens for 0, can hold the table hostage by waiting with blowing it up.
Decree of Pain - CMC8 makes this not great, but the card draw makes it worth considering. Cycling is also good as an instant speed uncounterable board wipe against early aggro.
Torment of Hailfire - Generic big mana wincon, can still be pretty painful even if you don't cast it for X=lots.
Crop Rotation - Card disadvantage since you sacrifice a land, but being able to fetch any utility land at instant speed for 1 is crazy for potential. Bojuka Bog, Tectonic Edge, Alchemist's Refuge, Cabal Coffers/Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Thespian's Stage etc. Can compensate for the card disadvantage while colorfixing with Myriad Landscape/Blighted Woodland.
As Foretold - Not a very good card, but it's pretty fun to use if you get the ball rolling, especially since you can spend any extra mana on your commander once you get to freecast spells. Even better with cheap instants.
Propaganda - Generic protection, both against token decks and to avoid becoming the path of least resistance in multiplayer.
Isochron Scepter - Absurd value with stuff like Brainstorm, absurdly annoying with counterspells. It runs a fairly high risk of being a dead card in your hand though, since you won't be running lots of CMC<=2 instants. Very sad to get from Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability with an empty hand.
Faerie Artisans - Relatively underrated card. You get the ETBs of anything your opponents cast/flicker/reanimate/etc. plus a chump blocker/attacker of varying quality.
Mirage Mirror - Incredibly strong card, even though it may not look like it at first glance. Copy a Cabal Coffers/Zendikar Resurgent for lots of mana, copy creatures like Arcanis the Omnipotent/Etali, Primal Storm and you get to tap/attack immediately as long as the artifact has been in play for a turn, copy creatures like Oracle of Mul Daya/Kess, Dissident Mage and get cheap value, scare off attackers by saying "I can copy the biggest dude on the board and block you", dodge removal/board wipes by copying a land etc. Extra fun if you run Dark Depths.
Avenger of Zendikar - Generic wincon, but still a very good wincon.
Exsanguinate - Generic big mana wincon, can save you from an early aggro death even if you don't cast it for X=lots.
Telepathy - Not a good card, but it's pretty fun for politics and mind games.
Assault Suit - Kind of fun multiplayer card, but not very good since your opponents aren't forced to attack with the equipped creature. Can cause some funny commander damage blowouts if your politics game is strong.
Psychosis Crawler - Generic but slow wincon, decent creature to clone.
Dark Depths - If you're already running support cards for Cabal Coffers, you have most of the stuff for a decent Dark Depths package like land tutors and Thespian's Stage (plus Marit Lage is cool). Throw in a Vampire Hexmage for a potential turn 3 20/20 to really set the pace of the game.
Hinterland Harbor/Woodland Cemetery - Checklands are great and not that expensive, and stay great even as your manabase improves. These two will get reprints in Dominaria, might want to wait for them.
Temple of Malady - The last scryland, you have the other two.
Cephalid Coliseum - Good for card filtering late game, comes in untapped early.
Choked Estuary - Not the best cycle of lands, but at least it's better than lands that always come in tapped. Doesn't exist in your other colors yet.
Golgari Rot Farm/Simic Growth Chamber - These are not that bad budget lands since they give you virtual card advantage at the cost of speed, but having three of them in a three-color can sometimes be too slow and awkward. If you want to keep them, then buy Dimir Aqueduct.
Halimar Depths - I would not use this over a basic land in your deck because you don't have lots of lands to find with your ramp, and the upside is not big enough for a tapped land that only produces one color.
Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse - These are a bit slow but they're good for colorfixing and they're great for Ramunap Excavator and Splendid Reclamation, as long as you have enough basics in your library.
Lumbering Falls - Manlands are not really worth it in commander unless you're have a lot of equipment, combat damage triggers or creature sacrifice.
Reliquary Tower - This is not a definite cut, but you don't want too many colorless lands in a three-color deck. Reliquary Tower is only necessary if you have lots of card draw and very little graveyard interaction, but since you have plenty of graveyard recursion, you should be fine without it.
Tectonic Edge - It's a good card, but I prefer using Ghost Quarter because you don't need to have any mana ready to be able to use it. Wasteland and Strip Mine are both strictly better, but expensive.
Temple of the False God - Not that great in three-color decks.
Jace, Memory Adept - Milling opponents with this guy is stupid, milling yourself is kind of decent but at 5 mana it's bad.
Kiora, the Crashing Wave - If you want it for the -1 (which is pretty good), just run Explore instead. Using it for the ultimate is stupid since your opponents have 3 turns to handle it and you're not getting any value from the +1.
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage - The -2 is not the worst, but at 5 mana and when you're blue it's not really worth it. Same as with Kiora, the Crashing Wave, you will never reach the ultimate against competent players and the +1 doesn't really give you any value. This one's worth some money, so sell it and buy better cards.
Archfiend of Depravity - The effect is not terrible but in practice it's less impactful than it seems. You can usually play around the ability or remove the creature if it's a huge problem.
Beastcaller Savant/Deathcap Cultivator/Elves of Deep Shadow - This deck has no reason running mana dorks other than Birds of Paradise and Deathrite Shaman, at most. Elves of Deep Shadow is not awful since it's 1 mana and colorfixes, but still not worth it.
Dimir Doppelganger - The main advantage to clones is that you can abuse strong ETBs, which this clone can't. Decent if you're two colors, not really if you're three.
Edric, Spymaster of Trest - This guy will more often enable your opponents than it will help you. Terrible card unless you're spamming tokens.
Forgotten Creation - Dumping cards into the graveyard is not bad, but CMC4, only in upkeep and discarding before drawing is awful.
Kruphix, God of Horizons - You need a lot of big mana dumps or a draw/go playstyle to justify using Kruphix, God of Horizons. Your commander is a mana dump but your limiting factor is going to be colored mana.
Solemn Simulacrum - Not awful, but there are better alternatives for ramp when you're in green. Could be worth keeping if you run a lot of clones for slightly better value compared to something like Wood Elves or Cultivate.
Torrent Elemental - Can blow out an opponent when you have a big board, but is very telegraphed and isn't very impactful on its own. Use Pathbreaker Ibex if you want better blowouts. The exile ability isn't great even if you delve him away, since you're still casting a mediocre creature for 5 mana.
Yahenni, Undying Partisan - Good when your deck is based around sacrifice and reanimation, but very out of place here.
Bounty of the Luxa - Slow ramp or slow card draw, but you can't choose which one you need right now. Better to use proper ramp and proper draw spells instead.
Deadbridge Chant - You can keep this if you like it because it's pretty fun. However, the random aspect and lack of impact until your upkeep is a bit too unreliable for 6 mana.
Perplex - Cards that give the opponent the final choice are generally bad, and this one isn't even good for its mana cost.
Spell Pierce - Good in faster combo-heavy metas, but not quite reliable enough in slower metas.
Unravel the Aether - This card is actually very good since it ignore indestructible, but it's worth considering if you'd rather have Nature's Claim for the mana cost or Krosan Grip for the utility, since I don't think you have room for all three in the deck.
In Garruk's Wake - Good card when you have the mana to use it, but 9 mana is a lot.
Increasing Ambition - I generally recommend against using tutors since games become very samey with them, but even then there are a lot of better tutors out there than this one.
Praetor's Grasp - Not as fun as Gonti, Lord of Luxury since looking at top 4 is more exciting than picking the best card for the situation, not as flexible either since you need the correct colors to cast things.
Dimir Signet/Golgari Signet/Simic Signet - Signets are good since they're cheap, can be used immediately and colorfix you, but in a slower meta they're prone to get board wiped away compared to land ramp, so they're not that great when you're green.
Gilded Lotus - People generally don't use spot removal on mana rocks, but the big and efficent ones like Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo sometimes do. You can use the mana immediately, but otherwise it's not much better than an Explosive Vegetation.