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Creature — Angel Spirit
Flying, protection from artifacts
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Angelic Curator Discussion
1 year ago
No, all of this happens during the cleanup step of your turn.
It still works the way Neotrup said, but here's the breakdown if you're interested:
514. Cleanup Step
- 514.1. First, if the active players hand contains more cards than his or her maximum hand size (normally seven), he or she discards enough cards to reduce his or her hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesnt use the stack.
- 514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all until end of turn and this turn effects end. This turn-based action doesnt use the stack.
Sudden Spoiling's effect wears off here.
514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:
514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger at the beginning of the next cleanup step). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins
SBA's are checked, and two actions need to be performed:
Both actions are taken as a single event as per rule 704.3:
- 704.3. Whenever a player would get priority (see rule 116, Timing and Priority), the game checks for any of the listed conditions for state-based actions, then performs all applicable state-based actions simultaneously as a single event. If any state-based actions are performed as a result of a check, the check is repeated; otherwise all triggered abilities that are waiting to be put on the stack are put on the stack, then the check is repeated. Once no more state-based actions have been performed as the result of a check and no triggered abilities are waiting to be put on the stack, the appropriate player gets priority. This process also occurs during the cleanup step (see rule 514), except that if no state-based actions are performed as the result of the step's first check and no triggered abilities are waiting to be put on the stack, then no player gets priority and the step ends.
Because of rule 704.7, Angelic Curator's last known information is that it had Skullclamp attached to it as it died. This is not determined with a second SBA check like you said. It is simply information about the creature.
Skullclamp triggers now, and waits to go on the stack.
A second SBA check is performed, and finds nothing to do in this example.
Skullclamp's trigger goes on the stack.
The active player gets priority.
1 year ago
704.7. If a state-based action results in a permanent leaving the battlefield at the same time other statebased actions were performed, that permanent's last known information is derived from the game state before any of those state-based actions were performed.
1 year ago
At the end step, Sudden Spoiling's effect will fade, making the Curator a 2/0 with Skullclamp attached to it. Will I get my Skullclamp trigger? I believe SBAs will cause Curator to die and Skullclamp to fall off at the same time.
2 years ago
Is the goal of the deck to be competitive in legacy or casual fun?
Then you will need specific angels for match ups
Iona, Shield of Emeria - shuts down any mono colored deck
Angel of Finality - shuts down graveyard decks
Linvala, Keeper of Silence - shuts down lots of creature decks
Maybe try New card Exquisite Archangel - could be good against burn or tendril/storm decks
This card doesn't see play but I like Angel of Jubilation - shuts down fetch lands, causes shocklands to come into play tapped, and makes phyrexian mana need to be paid.
If this is just casual, here are some other budget angels to consider:
Angel of Despair - ETB destroy permanent
2 years ago
Bazzz, you make a great point with questioning the inclusion of Darksteel Citadel. At one point I beleive I wanted to run some sort of artifact package and include the likes of Auriok Sunchaser, this however proved difficult to fit into the deck. Another consideration was to be sure to make use of Glint Hawk, but looking back over the list I have plenty of artifacts to get him running, I should replace the Citadels. As for the Scroll of Avacyn I took it this way, its a 1-drop artifact that draws one for 1 mana, similar to Prophetic Prism. Still costs 2 to get a card with slight upside if the angel is out. That however is the sadness, Seraph of Dawn is the only Angel in pauper that is even slightly playable, and truthfully I use playable loosely. Angelic Curator and Tormented Angel for comparison. I discovered Seraph of Dawn and I thought, Angel Pauper! but sadly that is impossible as there arent enough good commons to build with, so I tried to find anything that may make it work.
2 years ago
Hey there! I got around to viewing your deck: Heres the cards im most interested in:
(M) cards are maybe:
Abzan Falconer (M)
Crimson Acolyte (M)
Southern Paladin (M)
Voice of Duty (M)
Voice of Truth (M)
So there is some things I want more than others, but I'm ok with a giant package deal on the whole thing, or just the rares. Let me know!
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