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Players skip their untap steps.
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Stasis unless you pay .
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1 week ago
haven't checked this deck in awhile. if you still play it, you will know how weak Azorius Charm and Chain Stasis is. add some Daze man. they're cheap! i would try to get 4x in there. very good synergy with Stasis so long as you still have 1 land to untap. lets you keep going for at least an additional turn.
1 week ago
Schlafmangel Thanks man, I think Root Maze is great I'm trying to get one. It goes great with Amulet of Vigor. But I dont think Trinket Mage will be good enough, cos it only fetches for two cards, or even if you add Sensei's Divining Top it wont be enough cos if you wanna fetch something you should get something that slows down the game like Static Orb, Winter Orb or Stasis. That's why I'm getting an Enlightened Tutor.
2 weeks ago
There is a tl;dr section at the bottom, I did not have enough time to shorten this
Taking this off the forums to save everybody else (and you) the trouble
1:I am accused of being too much of a spike ("That's because stuff like Stasis are 'spikier' cards"). The cause of this accusation was directed at my answer ("but there are better ways of achieving Stasis hint hint", the answer provided an improved card whilst not making any concrete specifications. This was interpreted that I am competitive.
This accusation is easily falsified by pointing out lack of specificity I used and the fact that I mentioned a less-than-competitive reason (in the form of Brine Elemental).
Typical EDH is brought up ("in typical EDH, decks that want to play big creatures without big combos or locks are pretty common"). You have defined typical EDH as, "is not the weird mix of casual-competitive that you play. It's just casual". First: what weird mix of casual-competitive do I play? Please expand accurately on that. How would normal casual-competitive be defined? Please expand accurately on that. Lastly, please define casual, accurately of course.
*If you want any information as to who I play with, what decks we play, and how long games last (turn and/or minutes), ask and you shall receive.
I am accused that I play weird casual-competitive. To say that I play casual-competitive, coming from another person, is one of the most cretinous, inane, and ineffectual statements to make.
Who are you to say that I play weird casual-competitive?
"I'll also point out your explicit mentions of 'meta' and 'competitive'". Congratulations, you read what I write. If you could please be so kind as to assimilate it. The usage of the word "meta" is as follows: a term used to characterize something that is characteristically self-referential. Please do not confuse this with the abbreviation "meta" (most effective tactically available) as that would make no sense within that context. You pointed out that I used the word competitive. I freely admit that I mention (and more) the word competitive, explicitly and clearly.
Do you admit the same.
You appear to view this as a bad thing (troubling, however, your point does not prove anything, leaving another open-ended notion that you bring up).
The original point is that Kokusho, the Evening Star is used more than Yosei, the Morning Star, Ryusei, the Falling Star, Jugan, the Rising Star, and/or Keiga, the Tide Star (damn, i got them all correct!). I gave my reason, when you argued, I gave another reason, you then argued by accusing the way I play, the way others play (attacking my playgroups), and then proceeded to ignore my second reason.
You expect that if you--passively or passive-aggressively or aggressively-- accuse a person (seemingly without any basis), that you can get away with it? With this in mind, let's review some notes you might have forgotten:
you create open-ended and empty points, you create terms that are vague and voided, and it appears that if it is not casual (oh sorry: typical edh) it is immediately discounted.
1:I want to use the way that you write and show you how ridiculous it is, but one would hope that is already clear by what is on this message.
The amount of definite things that you (appear to) believe I said that are not true and create serious flaws: I like yosei as a card, I use yosei in my kaalia deck (Rakdos the Defiler + Yosei, the Morning Star + Twilight Shepherd is fun on turn 5...), and Yosei is not a bad card. Remember, because there is a "better" card does not necessarily mean that the original card is bad. Redundancy is key in edh. Plague Wind is strictly worse than In Garruk's Wake, is Plague Wind a bad card? No(!) both cards are both good. Would I rather play In Garruk's Wake, in most situations, yes. I shall forestall your comment (you talk about meta (the abbreviation)!) and note that both plague and garruk's wake are good and played.
It is important to note your comment, "Yosei is listed in around 2000 decks out of the 150,000-ish decks". You do not list where, how, or what parameters you used in coming up with this. It should be disqualified from the internet. However, since you bring up that numbers, I viewed this search and applied Kokusho, Yosei, Keiga, Ryusei, and Jugan. Each page is 20 decks, i got the following numbers: Kokusho is in 6160 decks, Yosei is in 3480(?!) decks, Keiga is in 2820 decks, Ryusei is in 1880 decks, and Jugan is in 1260 decks (all of these numbers are within 20 minus). I do not see the point in continuing to write this line of thought.
1:In conclusion. It has been a delightful fifteen minutes thinking about this, but for now I shall break.
2:The following has been noted and gone over: you accused me of being a spike, of not playing typical edh, and playing weird casual-competitve edh. You offer no grounds, clarifications, definitions, and minimal basis for them. You have been quoted. You are asked a question that is a cause for some abeyance. I rehash the original point and show your flaws. I stem future accusations. I clarify misconceptions you seem to hold (apologies if you did not hold them, your comments were indicative). I debase a claim you fought for. I reiterate message in conclusion.
2 weeks ago
miracle That's because stuff like Stasis are "spikier" cards that don't really see play in casual EDH, which I would assume is more popular than cEDH/1v1. That's why it isn't necessarily true that these cards are bad in the more typical version of commander, where people would be happy playing weird, weaker stuff like Ixidor morph.
2 weeks ago
@Dlaw: kokusho, jugan, ryusei, keiga, yosei... Out of those, I have seen only kokusho used to great effect (yosei is fun, but there are better ways of achieving Stasis hint hint). I am looking at those cards in 1v1 and 3 player, and 8 player games (as are those are the only #'s I play in). What do you disagree with?
@k34, okay, they are reprinting kaalia. She is still going to be expensive because she is the best casual general out there???
2 weeks ago
Wow! That's the most horrible thing anyone has ever said about this game - especially this format! I must ask you to reconsider your vindictive attitude, sir. Your playgroup does not deserve to have its fun drained by one of his upstanding players, because of one upstart ruffian!
All jokes aside, don't do this man. You will just enforce a horrible precedent in your playgroup that will lead to you guys actually falling appart (at least for what MtG is concerned). Not worth it.
EDH is meant to be FUN and playgroups are meant to manage bad boys through conversation! Talk to the guy. If he doesn't listen then be polite while you point him to the nearest unoccupied table to play by himself.
Another thing to do is to change your perspective on proxying. Do not allow it. The lack of resources promotes creativity; this motto has led my playgroup to find lots of hidden gems. If we ever allow a proxy or two for playtesting reasons we ask this of the person proxying: "If you like the card, when will you get the physical copy?". A card like Nether Void usually means "never" is the answer. So talk within the group and don't allow this kind of stupidity.
Now, although I don't want to have any part in the quarrel between your playgroup, I will also promote the stax-strategy. This is a very valid and very competitive playstyle that is mostly fair (not a lot of wins out of thin air - not many infinite combos etc). I would recommend Derevi, Empyrial Tactician or Glissa, the Traitor as my favourite stax commanders. Be warned, that even though a well prepared deck can still perform through the locks imposed, most builds will fold to them as they are quite oppressive (Cf. Stasis, Winter Orb, Smokestack). The pressure applied to all players - the pilot included - is bone crushing. So there you go, have fun, and welcome to the dark side. Stay to long and you will end up lonely! VERY lonely!