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Harvester of Souls
Creature — Demon
Whenever another nontoken creature dies, you may draw a card.
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Harvester of Souls Discussion
1 day ago
Hmm alright Juniperidlis, I see where your coming from. Okay for budget card draw here might be some options you can consider.
- Grim Haruspex
- Harvester of Souls
- Night's Whisper
- Mindless Automaton
- Mindblade Render
- Dark Prophecy
- Damnable Pact
- Syphon Mind
For some cheaper ramp cards you can consider cards like:
All these cards should be under $3 USD! Hope that helps!
3 days ago
Not to beat a dead horse, but I thought I'd bring up Shirei again (and my deck specifically, The Recursion Nightmare), just because I've actually changed it around a fair bit since last time. Workhorse , Harvester of Souls , Heap Doll , Myr Sire , Diabolic Revelation , Homeward Path , Mindslaver , Arcbound Reclaimer , Sorin Markov , Dictate of Erebos , and Coffin Queen are all out in favor of Midnight Reaper , Mausoleum Secrets , Skyscanner , Dusk Legion Zealot , Sensei's Divining Top , Cabal Stronghold , Petrified Field , Burglar Rat , Liliana of the Veil , Sanguine Bond , and Exquisite Blood .
The wincons are stronger, the mana curve is lower (and more balanced), the cabal-tron package is now super-redundant (with Cabal Coffers , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Vesuva , Deserted Temple , Petrified Field , Cabal Stronghold , and Expedition Map ), the stax effects are stronger, and the utility spells are cheaper. I'd say the deck has gotten at least 12% better, which, admittedly, goes against what I said ealier about the deck being almost perfect (though, in my defense, I hadn't yet taken a good look at some of the cards they've been printing recently--that's the great thing about Shirei, he only gets better the more worthless black commons they release).
I might take out the sanguine bond + exquisite blood wincon for Desecrated Tomb and Torment of Hailfire . Desecrated Tomb is more value, but obviously not really a wincon unless things are going way too well for me, and Torment of Hailfire isn't nearly as straightforward as Exsanguinate , but they might be better, anyhow.
Also, I still stand by Damnation --especially now that I'm playing Midnight Reaper and Dusk Legion Zealot , my life total is kind of a precious resource--sure, toxic deluge might be worth it anyhow, but it also kills my commander (read: I get my board state back after a damnation), so it's not strictly worse--though, I might consider playing deluge over Oblivion Stone , even though that card is my one way of dealing with problem enchantments, for instance.
Oh, and, I considered adding Pitiless Plunderer , but, again, the list is really tight, and I'd rather have Black Market over him, as I don't need more than one color of mana, the mana from Black Market accumulates, and it triggers whenever anything dies (relevant with Grave Pact ).
There are probably still better Shirei decks out there that still wouldn't qualify him for tier 3, but, frankly, even given a casual glance, tier 3 could easily be split up into multiple tiers (or just not have so many commanders crammed in it, and maybe we add a new bottom tier). I mean, Ghost Council of Orzhova and Ambassador Laquatus probably shouldn't be in the same category as Aminatou, the Fateshifter and Oloro, Ageless Ascetic , for instance. All the same, just in case these somehow weren't already obvious, let me detail a few of the more interesting interactions Shirei has with some of the dorks in this deck:
Mesmeric Fiend has an O-ring trick going on where, if we sacrifice him before his first ability resolves, the second ability triggers and does nothing, then we exile a card from our opponent's hand permanently. Doing that every turn with a sac outlet can be pretty good, and if you do it for long enough, you'll have everyone topdecking. I used to play Brain Maggot in this vein, but later learned that that works differently--it's all wrapped up into one ability, so if he dies before it resolves, during resolution, we take a card, the game sees that it's dead, then we immediately return it to their hand. Not very good, obviously.
Coffin Queen has a slightly different but effectively equivalent O-ring trick--if she's sacrificed before her ability resolves, the ability resolves, but since she's dead, the game doesn't remember her as an object and the delayed trigger of the ability can never happen, so we keep the creature permanently. When Coffin Queen comes back, she is, of course, a new object with a different timestamp.
Oh, and, in case this one wasn't obvious, cards like Mindless Automaton work with Shirei because their power is 1 or less when they enter the graveyard, thus triggering Shirei's ability, and their power doesn't become more than 1 until they've already entered the battlefield, as per layering rules.
4 days ago
xaarvaxus, Thank you for the advice! I originally had Liliana's Contract in the deck, however I was having troubles trying to optimize the number of Shadowborn Apostle 's in the deck. I think that I will toss the card into the sideboard and use Mastermind's Acquisition as a means of fetching it to win.
I debated on adding Bloodgift Demon for the ability to tutor for a phyrexian arena, however I feel as though Harvester of Souls can offer me better card draw and he also has a good keyword so he isn't useless in combat either.
As for Overseer of the Damned he is good removal on a body, however I believe Reaper from the Abyss is a far more effective card for removal especially when I have a sac outlet out to ensure that I can remove the biggest threat from the battlefield every end step.
Thank you again for the advice!
1 week ago
Definitely Add Show
Possibly Add Show
- Forge of Heroes
- Preyseizer Dragon
- Hound of Griselbrand
- Ion Storm
- Curse of Stalked Prey
- Cyclonic Rift
- Mark of Mutiny
- Sower of Temptation
- Conquering Manticore
- Dragonlord Silumgar
- Aura Thief
- Puca's Mischief
- Infernal Tribute
- Claws of Gix
- Viscera Seer
- Ogre Slumlord
- Open the Graves
- Pawn of Ulamog
- Sifter of Skulls
- Falkenrath Noble
- Power Conduit
- Palace Familiar
- Surveilling Sprite
- Ogre Battledriver
1 week ago
I've found that Ashen Rider is a good political tool since people don't really like their stuff exiled. It is a card to consider taking out though.
I've definitely been on the edge about Butcher of Malakir , I agree with you here
I've been on the edge about Extractor Demon too.
I like the "may" clause on Harvester of Souls , but it is definitely a card to consider replacing.
In a vacuum Knight of the Last Breath is definitely horrible. However, in this deck it can really work. Sacrificing something to just get a token out of it (along with any death triggers) is useful, and the low 4/4 stats are more than compensated for by the fact that it has Afterlife 4.
I do like Krav, the Unredeemed since it can help with many different areas of the deck.
Most of my tokens are white, which is why I have Light of the Legion . It is a card that have really been leaning towards cutting though.
Regna, the Redeemer is definitely expensive, but I do like token production and the fact that she can tutor for Krav. Definitely one that might not make the cut though.
Nomads' Assembly and Storm Herd synergize very well with the token theme, and the fact that all those tokens will gain me tons of life is worth it to me. To be honest since this won't be cEDH they aren't extremely expensive by commander terms, though Storm Herd is definitely pretty high on the curve.
Again, while it might be higher on the curve Rise of the Dark Realms won't be extremely hard to get to. Although, target recursion might be better in this deck.
With all the tokens I'm gonna get attacking will still be relevant, especially since the tokens dying can still trigger effects. Cathars' Crusade can help, it might not make it in though.
Divine Visitation is another card I've been on the fence about, it would probably be better in another deck.
Sword of Light and Shadow just gives that extra lifegain and recursion, just have it in the "protection" category because I didn't know where to put it.
Lifeline is cool, I've never seen that before
Totally forgot about Razaketh and Sheoldred. I feel stupid now.
Bontu's will definitely do work
Teferi's Protection has been in and then cut more times then I can count, it is definitely staying this time though.
I've been considering Smothering Abomination , it would be good.
Oversold Cemetery is a really cool card.
Toxic Deluge is a good one, forgot about it too.
I really appreciate this! I'm sorry if it seems like I'm not accepting suggestions/criticism, I just like to provide explanations.
1 week ago
No, they're not. Alesha's effect still sucks. Also, you're just flat-out wrong if you think using Fume Spitter every turn until there aren't any creatures on the board except your own isn't worthwhile. Same goes for Heap Doll , same goes for Harvester of Souls , same goes for Workhorse if you have something like Winding Canyons , same goes for literally 20 other creatures in the deck, like Noxious Toad (oracle text, it's each opponent).
Okay, lockdown isn't viable. Sure. That's why Alesha having to access to white for stax effects is so relevant, right? Mono-black has stax effects aplenty, and especially with Shirei--I can abuse Smokestack and Contamination to literally shut down everything.
It's entirely possible to keep anyone other than yourself from drawing anything but lands with Thoughtpicker Witch , and they'll be topdecking, at that.
You guys act like you know what you're talking about when you haven't even heard of most of these cards before, let alone played them/played against them.
1 week ago
Ummm....calm the fuck down dude, holy shit.
You clearly don't know how useful Shirei's ability actually is. You do realize you can use cards like Fume Spitter every single turn, right? You can Heap Doll every single turn to keep anyone else from having a graveyard? You do realize that Workhorse is a ramp spell, right? Oh, and, do excuse me for running Damnation when I'm already running Necropotence .
Sorceress Queen isn't a hate piece. It's so that I can recur guys in my deck that are bigger than 1 power. Like, say, Harvester of Souls , who can draw me, say, 5 cards each turn. Not each of my turns, each turn. While I'm also applying stax effects to people with the creatures I'm sacrificing.
Mindslaver is a fine wincon when the game is already locked down. There's no rush to cast it, and it can also save you from dying earlier.
Please stop bashing cards you've never actually played with. You clearly took one look at the list, gave no thought to any of the synergies involved, saw some apparently janky cards, and concluded that it was bad. Good job.
Needless to say, I'm pretty insulted. There are far worse commanders in tier 3.
1 week ago
Oh, you want examples? Heap Doll is the type of stuff this deck runs. 1 mana watses of a card that only occasionally could give value with the 5 mana commander with no immediate impact on the board.
Oh, but at least the numerous 1 mana do nothings are at least only 1 mana, right? Workhorse has something to show you.
Do you want to actually know what 'control' it has? No countermagic in mono-black (Unless Dash Hopes or Withering Boon are going be your fancy) so it has to have serious removal, yep, this list runs all of the cEDH classics like Fume Spitter , the mana efficient card draw in the form of Harvester of Souls , yep, and hate pieces like Sorceress Queen .
Also, Tasigur, as Mighty_Darknut said does have some very efficient interactions, but I am still going to stick by my word that Divergent Control is the best permission control list in the format, a link is at BUGR Divergent Control. It uses Notion Thief and Whirlpool Warrior as its combo target, and I while am more a fan of Kiki-Exarch it it's place, it does do work.
Other powerful permission control lists are Tasigur, GAAIV, Baral, and Rashmi.