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Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
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Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Discussion
23 hours ago
An addition that jumped out immediately for me was Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. You have so much swamp interaction for it to help out with and since it's a land it wouldn't force you to cut any of your main cards, just swap out a swamp. I'm sure there's some other lands that might be worthwhile to consider (Arcane Lighthouse, Contested War Zone, Elephant Graveyard, Griffin Canyon, Homeward Path, Oasis, Rogue's Passage, Shizo, Death's Storehouse, Swarmyard and Tower of the Magistrate all have SOME degree of group huggy utility) but that's the only one jumping out at me right now.
There's a couple cards that I'm not sure why they're in the deck based off the theme. Necrotic Ooze gives you a huge benefit compared to everyone else (you could use it to continue doing Zombie Trailblazer things after a boardwipe, but you can also use it to copy your opponent's activated abilities), Demon's Horn only helps you, and Touch of Moonglove not only only helps you, but it also hurts an opponent.
1 day ago
I have been summoned.
Thanks for all the nice things you said about me on my wall!
First, let's talk lands. I'm guessing there's a budget based on the lack of ABUR dual lands, so I'll try to keep my suggestions cheat. Luckily this will mostly focus on cuts rather than additions. You're currently running a lot of lands that are actually worse than basics overall. arcane lighthouse, Bojuka Bog, Boseiju, Who Shelters All, Creeping Tar Pit, Ghost Quarter, Lavaclaw Reaches, Myriad Landscape, Spinerock Knoll, and Vivid Creek would all be better as basic lands, preferably islands. For (relatively) cheap additions, I'd recommend picking up a Flooded Strand, Wooded Foothills, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and Ancient Tomb.
If you do end up deciding to increase your island count significantly, I would highly recommend putting in a High Tide package consisting of Tide, Frantic Search, and possibly Snap. Tide is one the best reasons to play Blue, especially in UBx builds like Grixis, which can fully capitalize on it. If you
I would also recommend adding more early-game fuel. You're missing all three of the Signets, Talisman of Indulgence, Fellwar Stone, Lotus Petal, Grim Monolith, and a lot of the great cantrips like Ponder, Brainstorm, and Preordain. Ad Nauseam, Cabal Ritual, Mystic Remora, Necropotence, Gamble, Gitaxian Probe, Windfall, Chain of Vapor, and several powerful low-cost counterspells like Pyroblast are also notably amiss. For Nekusar-specific suggestions, I see a lot of lists running Reforge the Soul, Winds of Change, and Geth's Grimoire.
For cuts to make room for some of these suggestions, I recommend the following:
Gilded Lotus, Elder Mastery, life's Finale, Mind Over Matter, Time Stop, Necromantic Selection, Decree of Pain, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Illusionist's Gambit, Leyline of Anticipation, Nevinyrral's Disk, No Mercy, Thran Dynamo, Burnished Hart, Darksteel Ingot, Black Sun's Zenith, otherworld atlas, and Smelt. All of these cards cost too much mana, don't impact the game in a significant way, are almost strictly worse than another card, or some combination of the three.
Hope I was able to help!
1 day ago
Why are you NOT running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth?
2 days ago
I don't think Knollspine Dragon will interact properly with Kaalia of the Vast, he drops in when Kaalia of the Vast attacks (before damage resolution). Unless the idea is a CMC7 draw X cards. Too expensive and too situational in my opinion. I'd much rather have an Iona, Shield of Emeria dropping in.
Why no Command Tower?
I think Master of Cruelties is critical to be mainboard, is he in side because of playgroup? He can improve your kill efficiency significantly, especially with your fast ramp a turn 3 MoC. Maybe take out the Reaper from the Abyss for him, I know he's awesome control, but I feel like he might start killing off your Angels and Dragons, or maybe even Kaalia of the Vast in some instances.
Dark Confidant can assist with the ramping / drawing, he does hurt you sometimes, but less than you think, especially with high land and high 0 CMC artifacts. Plus his interaction with Sensei's Divining Top is good. A Scroll Rack might work in this too pulling in all those 0 CMC and low CMC artifacts.
Pestilence Demon + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Kormus Bell would be fun, but your not playing a land destruction model (Crucible of Worlds), but was humorous thought that crossed my head when I saw him.
Pretty inter-stellar build, I like it. +1
3 days ago
If you're trying to stay competitive Modern, you may want to try to fit in Necrogen Mists if Veil isn't an option. I hate it for casual as I prefer to keep cards in my hand, but 8-Rack doesn't necessarily need card draw, and I t usually top decks pretty well.
I'd also go creatureless altogether. Nezumi and Visitor are tempting and certainly fit in some cases, but they'll more likely just end up as fodder for the removal your opponent is sure to be holding. Same reason I only run Waste Not in casual.
Other cards I can think of that you can upgrade to are:
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - allows a more solid mana base, especially if you have non-basics floating in your library like Dakmore and...
- Mutavault - emergency blocker and surprise attacker when the field is empty. I use Mishra's Factory casual, but the idea is the same; it's actually won me quiet a few games.
- Murderous Cut - good alternative to Dismember (which is a big staple of most decks) and maybe even better than Victim in the current meta dependent on your playgroup.
You can see my casual deck here if you need more ideas: 8-Smack.
4 days ago
A few pillow fort cards could be a good idea but it really depends on how much you want to turtle up or blatantly steal. Propaganda, Ghostly Prison and Sphere of Safety do add up to a lot of mana if you can get them all out at once. Orbs of Warding does double duty against attackers and targeting stuff.
Memory Plunder also deserves a mention.
You are running a lot of lands that fetch other lands so Roil Elemental would be great in this deck.
4 days ago
k_larriv Very interesting list and I think it looks really good.
Ill admit Im a little jealous you found a Serra's Sanctum, which should be wonderful in a deck like this.
As far as the maybe lands you have, Id forego all but Cabal Coffers. I agree that Scrubland and Marsh Flats are pricey for the fixing they provide like its a near insignificant improvement in the land base for the price of all the lands already in the deck all put together (unless, of course, your meta is super cut-throat competitive, which doesnt sound like much fun to me)!I highly recommend Cabal Coffers, although it would work best if you increased your swamp count or indeed picked up Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. In fact, if you add Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and a couple more swamps, that should take pretty good care of your mana fixing right there without considering the (other) expensive duals and fetches since Urborg will make all your lands tap for black mana. Paired with Cabal Coffers and you can see where your mana can accumulate rather quickly without duals and fetches. I might go as far to say that the Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Cabal Coffers combo is more effective and consistent at generating mana in a deck like this than Serras Sanctum would be because they rely on your lands, which are less prone to removal than your enchantments throughout the game (unless your meta is running mass land removal). Of course, this only applies if you actually manage to get these lands into play, and for that I suggest the incredible Expedition Map. Expedition Map is a great artifact in that for 3 generic mana you may search for a land . . . any land! This includes Cabal Coffers, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Serra's Sanctum, or even Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. This effect can easily replace a mana rock, as essentially fetching for any land can be much more powerful than almost any mana rock. For example, you have Commander's Sphere, which is the same cmc as Expedition Maps total effect (1 cmc plus 2 to sac it), but the sphere can eventually be removed easier because it has to hang around for a couple turns before you get even with the amount of mana you used to cast it. Yes, it cantrips on the fly if targeted for removal, but the draw can be anything from another card that produces only a single mana to a high cmc card that you cant even play for a while (because, ironically, youre getting mana screwed) or a great card that you didnt want to draw at that time. Expedition Map, however, cantrips itself into any land you feel will help you out the most at that time. Have a bunch of enchantments out, but only a couple swamps? Use it to get Serra's Sanctum! Just got wiped of your enchantments and have a handful of swamps out? Get Cabal Coffers! Already have Cabal Coffers out? Get Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth! You notice your devotion to white is currently greater than your number of enchantments out? Grab out Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx with Expedition Map! With so many high utility lands, especially if you add Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers, the Map is a great tutor for them, and can replace a mana rock.
Regarding Eiganjo Castle: its great to keep Daxos alive . . . if he were only taking 2 damage at a time since you have to tap the land for the ability, but if he were taking 4+ damage, then not so good. At least in my meta, Im more likely being swung at, and would like to block or prevent damage, of power 5+ (this is EDH afterall). The 2s and 3s swinging at me I would usually let in if I have no other blocker other than Daxos since I obviously dont want to trade my commander, and with enough life-gain effects from lifelink abilities and extort, this may end up being okay (et al your Campaign of Vengeance, Death Grasp, Fumigate, Underworld Coinsmith, etc., and Authority of the Consuls and Blind Obedience from your maybeboard). A better effect would be to prevent the higher damage amounts, which, if Daxos is not already enchanted for indestructibility, can be done via other enchantments! Righteous Aura (already on your maybeboard) is a cheap (cmc and $) aura enchantment that allows you to repeatedly pay one white mana and 2 life to prevent all damage a targeted source would deal to you this turn. Not great when 1/1s and 2/2s are swinging at you (again, see the life-gain balance above), but great for a small handful of 4/4s+ - even if those creatures attacking you have trample and lifelink the Righteous Aura will protect you for a mere investment of a white mana an 2 life. Better to pay 6 life and 3 mana than lose 10-12 life from a couple 6/6 tramplers (or worse still, 5-6+ commander damage!). Possibly even better for Daxos specifically is Gossamer Chains. A nifty 2 white mana enchantment with the ability to return it to your hand to prevent all combat damage from any single unblocked creature. Someone attacking you with his or her green fatty? Assign no blockers and just before the damage step, return Gossamer Chains to your hand and prevent it all which you can then recast from your hand on your turn for another experience counter from Daxos! Of course, its a single use until you can recast it, whereas Righteous Aura can be used multiple times while its out, but for late game when its down to you and one other player, or a three player game where one player isnt casting much fatty creatures, it could really shine and rack up your exp counters. Like any similar prevent damage effect, it can also outright prevent an opponent from attacking you if he or she knows the damage wont get through anyway, and it would even net you another exp counter for which the attacker does not want to be responsible for, so he or she may end up attacking your opponents instead until the Chains can be removed. I notice you have Pariah on your maybeboard, which would have a similar effect for you if you enchanted your own indestructible creature or creature with protection from combat damage (et al your Heliod, God of the Sun and Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts), but then Pariah is highly susceptible to being 2-for-1d if the creature it enchants is still removed somehow, plus Pariah is usually used on an opponents creature to play that opponent into using removal on it instead of on your other enchatments.
-I notice youre running Grave Peril over Seal of Doom. Grave Peril is 1 cmc less, but at 3 cmc for Seal of Doom (1 generic mana at that, but Sun Titan can still recur either), it shouldnt be terribly difficult to cast, plus you can trigger Seal of Doom whenever you would like instead of relying on Grave Peril mandatorily (not optional according to Oracle) sacing itself when any other non-black creature ETBs. You must sac Grave Peril to destroy any other non-black creature, which I understand may prevent opponents from casting certain creatures while it is out, but only temporarily until they find a way to remove it or cast a martyr creature that he or she is willing to be destroyed (or worse yet, just trip it with a 1/1 token) to then cast other non-black creatures. In fact, Grave Peril auto-triggers on any of your own 7 white creatures in your deck, so you wouldnt be able to cast those either white it is out unless you remove Grave Peril or allow your creature to be destroyed. Seal of Doom on the other hand, like Seal of Cleansing that you have, allows you to cast and choose when to sac it to destroy any targeted non-black creature.
-I notice youre running Pacifism over Prison Term. Pacifism, like Grave Peril, is 1 cmc less than the alternative Prison Term (1 white mana, but Sun Titan can still recur either one), but for the one extra white mana investment, the enchanted creature also cannot activate its abilities (Breya and Atraxa, anyone?). Better still, whenever another creature ETBs, you may move Prison Term to that creature, so you can move the Prison Term around the board as new creature threats emerge from multiple players. It can even be used as a political bargaining chip in the political atmosphere of EDH. You can play it on PlayerAs creature for example, but then PlayerB casts a big fatty that PlayerA knows is going to attack him or her. PlayerA can bargain with you to move your Prison Term to PlayerBs creature in exchange for not attacking you or targeting you with PlayerAs creature. Now youve effectively Pacified 2 creatures from attacking you! I thought there was a Pacifism-type enchantment that could also be returned to a players hand (to recast for Daxos exp counters), but I cant think of the name off the top of my head ATM.
-I notice youre running Succumb to Temptation over Read the Bones. I admit, Succumb to Temptation is rather . . . tempting (couldnt help it), but for the same 3 cmc (without the double-black mana even) you can effectively dig 4 cards deep with Read the Bones. For example, Temptation draws you 2 cards. Thats it. You draw whatever 2 cards were sitting on the top of your library at that moment. However, with Bones, you get to scry 2 first before you draw 2. You dont like the 2 cards you just scryd? No problem, slip them to the bottom of your library instead and take your chances on the next 2 cards, which means youve now effectively dug 4 cards deep into your library looking for that answer. Granted, Temptation is at instant speed whereas Bones is sorcery, but I think the scry ability essentially letting you look at the top 2 cards before choosing to draw them is more powerful than drawing at instant speed when you have other draw engines in the deck (et al your Underworld Connections and Erebos, God of the Dead if you choose to add him too from your maybe board). Plus, Bones is on flavor point for being from Theros block where Daxos originally hails.
A couple other cool cards I can suggest include:
-Dauthi Embrace: a 3cmc enchantment (Sun Titan range!) that can give a target creature shadow until end of turn for 2 black mana. With shadow, your creatures (most likely your Daxos enchantment tokens) can only be blocked (and can only block) other creatures with shadow. Tell me the last time you saw a shadow creature stomping around in EDH? So, this effectively makes your tokens unblockable given enough black mana, which shouldnt be terribly difficult mid- to late-game if youve used Expedition Map to pull up your Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth!
-Equipoise: Although I havent used this enchantment myself, it seems fairly spicy! Again, that sweet 3cmc Sun Titan range. It basically makes it so that a target player doesnt have more resources than you during your turn by phasing out any amount of each permanent type that the player controls greater than the amount of perms you control. Phasing out basically removes the permanents (and any attached auras or artifacts) from the game like they were never there important to note that the permanents are not exiled, so ETB triggers do not trigger upon their return and all attached auras/equips also return just the same. Best part is that you get to choose which perms phase out for your turn, so you can choose the untapped creatures, untapped lands, etc, to prevent combat clocks or counters/other instants being played from that player on your turn. If you play this card, let me know how it goes because Im interested in its effects.
-Argivian Find is worth a note if you manage to lose Sun Titan and really need to get back that Seal of Cleansing or Seal of Doom, etc. A 1 white mana instant-speed recursion of any enchantment or artifact is always good utility. Bonus points if you return Expedition Map to fetch up Cabal Coffers after youve just used the Map to get Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth!!
5 days ago
Holy crap. That's nice. Having played a version of the modern mill deck, without a doubt you want to be playing Ensnaring Bridge in the main board and at least one Surgical Extraction for combo/burn/etc. Otherwise, Visions of Beyond > Thought Scour > Serum Visions. Your cantrips exist so that you do not run out of steam and allow you to draw into cards that will either A) Mill your opponent outright or B) Help you stall until you can. The T4 win wombo-combo mentioned above is certainly nice, especially noting that it can be done at INSTANT SPEED. Profit. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth seems a bit bizarre in your build. If you were playing + , I could see it being helpful as your Ghost Quarters become Swamps, but otherwise its inclusion seems suspect. You want to fetch with your fetches to trigger Hedron Crab. Nephalia Drownyard seems too slow in the main unless you're playing Ensnaring Bridge in the main as well for a slow but inevitable alternate win-con. Hope you have as much fun playing Mill as I do!