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Xenagos, the Reveler
+1: Add X mana in any combination of and/or to your mana pool, where X is the number of creatures you control.
0: Put a 2/2 red and green Satyr creature token with haste onto the battlefield.
-6: Exile the top seven cards of your library. You may put any number of creature and/or land cards from among them onto the battlefield.
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Xenagos, the Reveler Discussion
1 week ago
KINGofORESKOS, I have seen it.
I was actually in the works of brewing a Superfriends deck around that.
With the "Planeswalker Uniqueness Rule" no longer being a thing, we can use Mirror Gallery to have multiple copies of Legendary Planeswalkers out, in addition to their other counterparts.
The possibilities here are abundant. But that's a discussion for another thread.
1 week ago
I see you running effects like Second Harvest , a Doubling Season seems like it'd help this list. I'd also expand upon the token theme and integrate it into your combo strategy... perhaps running Xenagos, the Reveler , one of the Garruk PWs, Primeval Bounty , and a few other generators. Ulasht, the Hate Seed , Mycoloth might be worth slotting in.
Also, Genesis Hydra can make for great plays throughout the early/mid/late game, and even if countered it's ability will still trigger on cast. Managorger Hydra can play nicely with doubling effects and gives you an early game threat to eat removal while you're building up.
You can definitely slot Food Chain and Birthing Pod in this deck, and would suggest you do. Eternal Witness should also find a way into the list, as well as ways to exploit our token mass, primarily Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar
For ramp, I'd throw in Joraga Treespeaker , Satyr Hedonist, Voyaging Satyr (you can combo this card with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx for amazing ramp ability, drop the large majority of your taplands. I'd certainly recommend Gaea's Cradle , but it has a value more than double of your entire list, so it may be something you consider adding waaay later on.
1 week ago
Hey! Thanks for the upvote and comment.
I'd like to address each card personally.
Dragonmaster Outcast - I absolutely love this card. Seriously underrated. Yes, of course you must be weary of things like Lightning Bolt, Shock, Fatal Push, Path to Exile... Hell even Golgari Charm. But I find if you try to build a deck worrying about all of the IF's, you won't have any fun. Having said that, while I love this card, I don't feel he has a place in the deck. This deck aims to cheat out Dragons first and foremost. If I can cheat out lands, awesome; The majority of my mana, however, is produced by non-land sources: Birds of Paradise, Generator Servant, Savage Ventmaw, & Xenagos, the Reveler. I have a Mono-Red Token / Burn deck that uses a playset of Dragonmaster Outcast, so I do fully know of his potential. In this deck however, I feel he's not a very good pick. The reason is, I need my 1-CMC slot open for Birds of Paradise. Dragon Broodmother already produces TONS of Tokens (On EACH Upkeep, not just mine), as does Utvara Hellkite and Sarkhan Vol's -6. So I've got Tokens plenty covered :)
Dragonlord's Servant! Ahh, a staple of any and all Dragon Decks! Sooo... why isn't he in here? I opted in place of him Generator Servant. Why? Because not only does it get me rather than a reduced cost of , I can use the on any spell I'd like. IF it is cast on a Creature, that Creature gains Haste. But I can do it on, say, Genesis Wave if I'd like. And something I've noticed people don't normally think about is that you can divide the into + . Each of these can be imparted onto separate Creatures, giving BOTH of them Haste. That's why I did it this way, instead.
Utvara Hellkite. Oh. My. God. This guy is a beast of a beast. I'm running 2x of him already. I put him in nearly every Dragon Deck I make. So... funny thing. I can get a T3 Savage Ventmaw. 3x Lands + Birds of Paradise + Generator Servant. Ventmaw now has Haste, and I can swing and get . I bring that up, because on T4, even if I don't play a 4th Land, I'd have access to 10 mana in total (3x Lands, 1x Birds of Paradise, +6 mana from Savage Ventmaw). With 10 / at my disposal, I can get a T4 Utvara Hellkite, easily. Even if he's within the top 8 cards of my Library, I can cheat him out for with See the Unwritten. So, a T4 Utvara Hellkite kind of trumps a T6 :)
I had not considered Door of Destinies. Since that's based on whenever I CAST the spell, I'm not certain my guys would get bigger via Tokens. HOWEVER! For more mana, Coat of Arms will make things VERY interesting... Likewise, there's always Crucible of Fire for a bit cheaper. I use those in that Mono-Red Token / Burn that I mentioned earlier.
I had no considered Atarka's Command. To address each point, however:
A.) Lifegain isn't an issue with this deck. Between Scourge of Valkas and Dragon Tempest, you're looking at some SERIOUS Non-Combat Damage. Especially when Utvara Hellkite, Dragon Broodmother, and Sarkhan Vol kick in. I've once dealt over 70 damage on Turn 6. Not BY Turn 6. ON Turn 6.
B.) 3 points of damage is fun and all, but I'd rather spend that on other spells, like a Genesis Wave :)
C.) Extra Lands are always useful, but as I said the vast majority of this deck seeks to use Non-Land sources to produce it's Mana.
D.) +1/+1 and Reach would be a solid benefit, if 85% of my deck didn't already have Flying :p
I'm not trying to crap on your suggestions. I really appreciate them all :D
There's just a particular method to my madness, is all :3
1 month ago
And one more remark :) What about Kessig Wolf Run and Inkmoth Nexus ?Kessing can help you with commander damage (if you control Xenagos, the Reveler, it can be one attack = kill) And also are great together for another wincon... Pump your nexus with kessing for infect dmg.
1 month ago
Yeah, Oath of Nissa is worth a hard look for sure. I dismissed it early, because we don't really need the fixing and the one-drop slot is already crowded with dorks. But the fixing isn't bad (e.g., I got cut off of RR the other day by a bunch of Spreading Seas, with a Chandra in hand). And it'd a great way to dig for gas in the late game. Thanks much!
I go back-and-forth on Heart of Kiran in the main. I LOVE ot having to mul' if we don't get a dork (T1 Land, T2 Heart, T3 Nissa/Tracker/Ranger (unless we Explore 2x Lands) then attack with a 4/4 in the air = a perfectly keepable hand). And not having to mul' as much against an unknown deck is REALLY nice. But anyone who sees it Game 1 is bringing in Artifact hate for sure, which nerfs Trinisphere as well. And yeah, it dies to Fatal Push but I don't worry about that much ... so does literally every Creature (and the Tokens, of course) in the deck :-)
I've been pleased with the performance against Burn, actually. I don't have nearly enough reps to know for sure, but the 'Walkers seem to present them with a big dilemma ... and every Burn spell they aim at a 'Walker is one less at our face! I hate not being able to use Kitchen Finks though (since it's a complete non-bo with Doubling Season) ...
Thanks again, and I'd LOVE to hear how it goes if you end up doing any testing!
I'll definitely be watching to see how your deck evolves, because a non-Doubling Season build may frankly be the right approach. But making a deck that can win either with or without Doubling Season is kind of the point of this build. :-)
I explain my thoughts on Xenagos, the Reveler and Garruk Wildspeaker in the 'RG Walkers that don't seem to fit' section. I like them both (especially Xenagos) in your build, but they're pretty meh in a Doubling Season deck.
Yeah, I've been really impressed with Jadelight Ranger. I like Courser better in a 'normal' build (due to the lifegain and the full-time synergy with Chandra), but it's been super here.
Avenger of Zendikar would be sweet, but unfortunately a seven-drop is just too much for this deck.
Thanks for the thoughts on Heart of Kiran ... and all the other comments too! I'm also looking forward to seeing where this takes us!
Thanks for dropping by! Evolving Wilds would be great in a budget build, but Windswept Heath and Wooded Foothills (do a better job here. Similarly, the Aether Hub is not really necessary.
I know the manabase looks kind of weird, but the Stomping Grounds generally give us plenty of Red. And we have to go heavy on the Forests because if we get a Blood Moon out it turns the Fetchlands and Stomping Grounds into Mountains.
And Hornet Queen would be AMAZING, but a seven-drop is just too much for this deck.
1 month ago
I would go all in with Sarkhan Vol, because him + Doubling Season = insta 10 flying 4/4's aka win on the next turn. If you have enough mana to cast another one on the same turn, that gives you 10 5/5's with haste. Pretty good.
And what about a one-of Hornet Queen? :)
1 month ago
I've been working on an idea for this too, Ponza Party 5, and I gotta tell ya clayperce, yours looks to be a pretty consistent beat down. I absolutely love the idea of the deck and look forward to playing it. Now, I do not however, like Doubling Season.
I know it's awesome, does crazy things, AND we can cast it reasonably, but it just seems like we would often be banking on having it out already.
Absolutely love Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, plants for daaaays. Plus, she makes Birds of Paradise extra useful. I see the value of Samut, the Tested, but I like Xenagos, the Reveler better. He isn't used to ult unless you really need the stuff, he's just free mana and dudes, coupled with VoZ he's ridiculous. And I really think Garruk Wildspeaker is the best of them for this. More mana means more walkers, LD spells and threats at the same time, which means game over even faster.
Really have to admit that I am growing fond of Tireless Tracker and it looks really good here on card draw and as a beater. I haven't seen Jadelight Ranger in action yet but it looks like it would do well here and brings as much value as Courser of Kruphix does I think. I also think we should give Avenger of Zendikar a try here as a 1 or 2 of. Even more ridiculous with Doubling Season and VoZ.
As for Heart of Kiran, I think you're right clayperce. It should be in the side. It just looks like it would be awkward in the main and there's almost always something else we would rather have on T2.
I really wanna see this deck tweaked and built. Super excited to see where we can take it guys.
1 month ago
mana issue i like, casue thertically your striping ur deck of 3 cards at a time which limits less land pull so you can get your big guys out and spells...
keep the evolving wilds, I know the game is all about mana and get the fetch lands, but honestly, I go with evolving wilds and I use cards that strip my deck of lands so there all out on the field and i have nothing but creatures and spells to pull...i highly recomend for you
Generator Servant --you do get to slit the mana and have 2 creatures with haste, i confermed with a judge when this card cam out, next for raw speed power....Karametra's Acolyte Nissa's Expedition Explore Everflowing Chalice Khalni Heart Expedition Xenagos, the Reveler
now for the symic deck...the most fricken broken hydra i know..Heroes' Bane next is its mother Hydra Broodmaster id you can find away to bounc eit, the counters shed of and yo ucan poop tokens again...this gy is a beast Managorger Hydra Forgotten Ancient Gyre Sage Lorescale Coatl
my simic deck..great offenc and deffensive capabilities....http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-04-16-evolution/