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Shadow (This creature can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.)
Whenever another creature is put into your graveyard from play, you may pay . If you do, return Nether Traitor from your graveyard to play.
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Nether Traitor Discussion
6 days ago
1 week ago
Wow! This list looks insane. You're running basically every card I've tried to keep myself from buying over the last three years haha. One day Candelabra of Tawnos . . . one day.
Any reason you decided to add creatures? They all make sense, but I'm trying to think of ways to recur Vampire Hexmage and Arcbound Reclaimer without popping your commander or tutoring for Trading Post. Try running Dawn of the Dead, it has so much synergy with Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed that I think it merits a slot. Lets you just keep him in the yard to recur a black spell each of your first main-phases. I'd suggest Bloodghast and Nether Traitor if you want other self-recurring creatures. Maybe check out Liliana, Death's Majesty.
Corpse Dance helps out a lot in this situation, but I really hate the whole "top creature in the graveyard" nonsense. It is such a tough condition to keep track of and people get so handsy with your graveyard when you run this commander that you really need to house rule the order of your graveyard every time you run the deck. It may not pose an issue for you since you have a much more limited creature pool, but it can be annoying. With that said, there's no real substitute for what it does, instant speed and buyback make this card insane.
Also, I'm really liking Forcefield in your deck and I am probably going to include it in one of my lists.
How have you liked Soul Conduit? I've considered it a few times but I'm always pretty hesitant.
1 month ago
A ver, veo que estas centrandote mucho en incluir criaturas que tengan mecanismos naturales de recursin, pero sinceramente, la mayora de esas cartas no son suficientemente buenas o poderosas como para justificar su inclusin. En su lugar, hay un buen nmero de cartas que te permiten devolverte cosas a la mano de forma mucho ms eficiente y sin sacrificar poder en el proceso.
En segundo lugar, hay cartas caras como Lord of Extinction facilmente sustituibles por algo como Nighthowler que adems te da versatilidad (sacrificable tanto como encantamiento como criatura, o si no, usable como finisher).
En tercer lugar, debes considerar cartas que generen tokens como "carnaza" para las habilidades de comandante. Curse of Opulence o Tamiyo's Journal puede generar una gran cantidad de artefactos, From Beyond y Ophiomancer crean ejercitos de criaturas...
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1 month ago
Nether Traitor dragon.
Honestly not sure what this does.
Donate for each opponent, or a pretty good way to screw one player over if they're overstepping their bounds.
1 month ago
Youre gonna want snow covered swamps since you are playing Lens. This is because if you imprint a regular swamp then anyone else who is playing black will also get double mana.
cards like Contamination can keep opponents from disrupting you
1 month ago
So, you can definitely do without crucible. I use it almost exclusively for fetch lands. I imagine you would definitely want it if someone starts going after your lands -- that and all the artifact recursion means you can probably even survive against a full on Titania assault.
It's really just a great card with some great situational uses -- much like the other cards in the deck. It's all held together by having a low draw rate and instant speed access to your entire deck via tutor.
If I were to build this on a budget, I think that assembling a sac loop drain combo would probably be easiest / the best strategy. Razaketh is a sac outlet, and you need most of the pieces anyway in this case. So, putting together Phyrexian Altar and Nether Traitor is pretty easy.
1 month ago
No Grave Pact? Also I like more on board draw like Smothering Abomination, Dark Prophecy or Grim Haruspex. Then some more token producers would help, Xathrid Necromancer, Hanweir Militia Captain, Requiem Angel. I also have been enjoying Ravos, Soultender, and High Market in a B/W weeny deck, speaking of weeny decks, Dusk / Dawn works wonders in them, this card brings back most of your stuff while getting rid of everyone's fatties. Shred Memory can become another copy of Altar of Dementia or Blood Artist so its nice as another tutor. Also Nether Traitor (which can be tutored via Shred Memory) can generate infinite mana with your commander and Phyrexian Altar.
1 month ago
If you want to have this as another theme in the deck, Grave Pact would benefit from sacrificing creatures, but first, I'll list out a few creatures you could use.
Nether Traitor is a useful card. Although probably better in other formats, where you can keep chaining 2 of them, it still has a really easy way of recursion. Especially if you sacrifice a creature that has it's own way of returning.
Doomed Necromancer is a card that can return just about any creature, which can be helpful.
Epochrasite is a useful creature to sacrifice. It has a consistent way of returning, and has it's own benefit from dying. If you can't win off of impact tremors or blood artist, you can always just get a very strong epoch and kill your opponents.
Geralf's Messenger has a one time recursion, but will get stronger after the counter is placed.
Of course, an easy way of giving recursion is to run 2 cards, which happen to fit your colors. Cauldron of Souls, and Solemnity. after giving your creatures persist, you can sacrifice all your creatures and get everything back. If you had an impact tremors, or a blood artist, or both, you probably won the game, or is close to. The only thing about solemnity is that it screws up any card reliant on counters, and I believe it also screws up Epochrasite if you choose to run that. Of course, this is a singleton deck, so you should be fine running each of those.