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January 16, 2019 12:21 p.m.
Hey. Didn't know it would be allowed to Upvote my own stuff as well. This seems concerning as I never was appreciative of cheating the Upvote, even with only one account (This one in this case; I have no socks getting in my danged way...).
Why didn't I know I could do so for my own decks as well? BTW, I upvoted one of yours BTW. But you probably knew that. One down, A million more Swarms to go... >/<
January 8, 2019 1:27 p.m.
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From here after we do one of the two ways I mentioned above, we have an arbitrary large amount of cards in our hand there are two main lines. Typically we go for the storm way to win, by using Aetherflux Reservoir and casting all our mana rocks, Helm of Awakening makes all our spells cost one less, so it makes us net positive or even when we play them. We can further up the storm count by using Hurkyl's Recall or Chain of Vapor to bounce our own rocks to recast them again. Finally there is another way and that is Yawgmoth's Will (It's not in the deck yet as my friend is picking one up for me in Japan), but it lets me reuse cards all in my yard all over again. By then we should already have enough life to laser beam everyone to death.
Shimmer Myr is essential in this build as we can do this all at instant speed. We can do this in a end step Necropotence before we have to discard all our cards as well as doing it after an Ad Nauseam . Cards like Quicken , allows us to use sorcery speed cards like Yawgmoth's Will at instant speed.
The other way to win is as you mentioned, Laboratory Maniac . Doomsday (DD) is the enabler for these piles, but there are certain requirements for it before you cast DD. First you always need an pile opener, whether it be Opt , Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain , etc. as long it draws you one card. From there you have to know how much mana you have available and how much cards you need to draw to design your pile. Here is an example of a classic pile without Lion's Eye Diamond and Yawgmoth's Will using Ponder as an opener.
- Laboratory Maniac
- Gitaxian Probe
- Opt That is also the order you will put your library in. The requirements for this pile is + as well as two Islands available. Cast Ponder to draw into Gush , bounce two Islands into your hand to free cast Gush . Draw Labman and Brainstorm . Cast Labman, than cast Brainstorm to draw out your library and win the game.
There are a lot of variations you can do with the piles, as a more protected one as well as faster ones to net you mana. It's a very hard deck to play but also one that is super satisfying to play once you learn how to. There is so much synergy between the cards, but you have to know your deck inside out.
You should probably add that^ to your deck description so that people understand without you having to explain it.
Also I like it but... I'm just curious as to why you didn't go with Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain to achieve this win con. She's my only cEDH deck, I don't have her assembled but I'm looking to eventually. Take a look at it if you get a chance and tell me what you think. Jhoira's Discount Treasure Ship
January 19, 2019 12:01 p.m.
Ya know Kain, I'd love to help you... but I just think that if I do, you won't listen to me. You always argue with advice that is given to you by Veteran players, even though you are quite new.
Something I've realized about you as a player is, you don't understand value of card slots, or the cards that take their place. You tend to tunnel on one thing on a card, and not it's overall worth.
I'm not trying to insult you, but you should listen to the veteran players because you know this about yourself; and if you don't know that about yourself... Well now you do.
If you can listen to what I have to say and NOT argue with me about them, it's fine to disagree or to disregard something I say if you have a legitimate point, then I'll help.
January 19, 2019 10:57 a.m.
Again still confused, you only have one card that has storm on it.
Obviously I think your wincon is Lab Man and using Doomsday makes that much easier but how do you draw the 5 cards?
January 17, 2019 10:10 a.m.
Look I could try to offer suggestions or feedback of some kind but you seem to already have the deck the way you want it from the way your comments look so... I'll just say this...
You got an upvote simply because... your deck title is brilliant!
January 16, 2019 10:47 a.m.
Honestly I think Purphoros is a fine commander for the deck, I mean unless you are playing 1v1. I've actually been wanting to build him for some time! I think I will after this.
January 16, 2019 9:44 a.m.
It was a joke but... It also kinda wasn't... You only have 3 Enchantments in a Zure, the ENCHANTER deck. This is basically just esper control and honestly Oloro, Ageless Ascetic lends itself FAR better to control than Zur*.
There are some Zur builds, I know a girl, that are control but use Stax and Stasis and all that lovely anti-magic, anti-fun stuff.
I guess I just don't understand the choice... Maybe I'm missing something though.
January 16, 2019 9:41 a.m.
Neheb should definitely be in this deck but overall I like it!
January 15, 2019 5:58 p.m.
Interesting deck... I like the choice to win through an alternate win con! Gotta be one with the Jank lol. +1
January 15, 2019 5:43 p.m.
I'm so confused with this deck... It looks like an Oloro deck, but there's this weird commander named Zur or something like that as your commander... Ah, whatever it's probably just a glitch.
January 15, 2019 5:39 p.m.
Meaning you are no longer working on it Synergy? Really like the Formatting changes! Also mind if I were to take a crack at writing your Politics section? I think you guys just glazed over the surface there and I've already wrote an entire article on Politics, which you can totally read here
January 15, 2019 12:32 p.m.
I have a request, since I've helped you with this deck (Among others) mind going and upvoting one (or more whatever you wanna do lol) of my decks you like?
January 15, 2019 12:05 p.m.
yeah I'm not saying don't play big spells because Jesus Christ my favorite deck is my Jodah good stuff deck where I just play big-ass spells.
However I'm saying you just don't have enough ramp to make all those big spells work. So you either have to come down on a spell cost or you need to go up on the ramp.
January 13, 2019 9:35 a.m.
I wasn't trying to give you a cedh recommendation because I don't play cedh but I do like playing very optimal and making sure that my debt comes out. I play in a pretty fair, I would say about a 7 on a power level, group of people and you have very little ramp and very very expensive cards.I recently played a game with my mizzix deck, which I thought was really good, where literally I just never had the mana ever to do anything because everyone was taxing me or forcing me to play counterspells when I didn't want to. It's be ashamed to pay 10 Mana for a storm herd or 9 for a dark realms just to have a board we come out. You want cards that have value and innocent immediately, not cards that make you wait a turn.
January 12, 2019 11:17 p.m.
So I'm assuming we are going with a sac outlet style here, and I have a couple of win cons. Exsanguinate / Debt to the Deathless for a large amount using Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar , Sac outlet procs from Kokusho/Artist/Cutthroat/Evangel, or Mirror Entity swarm.
- Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
- Mimic Vat
- Open the Graves
- Pitiless Plunder
- Sheoldred, the Whispering One
- Bontu's Monument
- Expedition Map
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded
- Debt to the Deathless
- Teferi's Protection
- Songs of the Damned
- Thran Dynamo
- Coldsteel Heart
- Viscera Seer
- Mirror Entity
- Pious Evangel Flip
- Phyrexian Plaguelord
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Oversold Cemetery
- Toxic Deluge
- Smothering Abomination
- Dark Prophecy
- Gate to the Afterlife
- God-Pharaoh's Gift ?
- Grim Haruspex
- Ashen Rider: I personally hate this card, it's so god awfully expensive and it expensive for a pretty vanilla creature... I think that unless you are playing a reanimator style this isn't worth playing at 8 CMC
- Butcher of malakir: I know a lot of people love this card, but I'd rather just play Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact over this any day, too expensive and too easily destroyed.
- Extractor demon: It's too expensive and mill is one of those things you have to COMMIT to.
- Havester of souls: I'd rather see a Smothering Abomination , Dark Prophecy , Gate to the Afterlife , or Grim Haruspex
- Knight Of The Last Breath: It's really bad.
- Krav, the unredeemed: This one is a bit iffy, it could be really good it could be really bad playtest with it, and if the deck doesn't do what you want it should be onthe first to go list.
- Light of the Legion: You don't have enough white creatures to make this worth while.
- Regna, the Redeemed: It's just WAY too expensive.
- Nomad's Assembly: This could be good, but it's far too expensive
- Storm Herd: This isn't your game plan my friend, I mean sure you could play it and win off it but I think you're better off taking that 10 mana and dumbing it into an Exsanguinate or Debt to the Deathless
- Rise of the Dark Realms: Too expensive, and you have no way to cheat it out.
- Cathar's Crusade: your gameplan should be more sac to get triggers and do silly things, not attacking.
- Divine Visitation: It's a Win more card in a deck that isn't solely based on making tokens, not worth.
- Sanguine bond/Exquisite Blood: I'm just not a fan of the combo, it pisses people off and is no fun. Play one or the other, not both.
- Grave Betrayl: Too expensive in my book
- True Coviction: Triple white in a deck that is prominently black... No thank you... Plus this doesn't contribute to your win con.
- Sword of Light and Shadow: Why? It won't protect against your board wipes, and it's very much not your strategy.
January 12, 2019 3:37 p.m.
Ok... So... I think your best bet when it comes to this deck is to win through token generation and sacing said tokens to various sac outlets giving you triggers from cards like Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat . I also gotta say I'm not a huge fan of your card selection here... I'll write up a list of Cuts/Suggestions it'll take some time though so bare with me. BUT I can give you one suggestion (besides Artist, and Cutthroat) right now... Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim she is this deck's wet dream.
January 12, 2019 10:08 a.m.
Well honestly I used Jonathan Suarez's (Commander VS.) decklist as a base to get general ideas and a feel for how a Xantcha deck plays out. Here's the list if you'd like to see it...
January 9, 2019 11:21 a.m.
@ they are recent additions, but I recently played in a group with a stasis deck and I realized that walkers would help answer stasis and provide some value all the time. Jace is a bit weak here so I might cut him but I really feel like Chandra is doing everything I want it to do.
January 9, 2019 8:28 a.m.
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