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Treasure Cruise Discussion
2 hours ago
I sort of like the idea of the decision making needed between Treasure Cruise and Rise from the Tides, however I feel like that is just weakening an already complicated deck? Especially if they feel the need to Engulf the Shore after getting their zombies.Treasure Cruise is needed to help facilitate the Hedron Alignment win, which seems like Rise from the Tides is just going to be a dead card unless they can cast that before cruisin. My thinking when I saw Rise from the Tides was that I love the flavor of the number of instants and sorceries being related to the spell, but a card like Cryptic Serpent would always be good. If the spells are in the grave, awesome! But if not, it's very blue to pay a lot for a big vanilla body. That's just my two cents. I know you've done lots of playtesting though, so I will defer to your good judgement.
2 hours ago
I also have a WIP competitive mizzix deck and was hoping to pick your brain a little bit.
I noticed you kept your curve down rather low with very few exceptions such as things that are mitigated elsewise like Treasure Cruise and Time Spiral. As well as the instant win that is Enter the Infinite. I was wondering what your logic was behind that.
I was also wondering if you've considered cards like Time Warp or Expropriate. The former is essentially a free experience counter early-mid game, and late game it's a way to untap your lands. It also synergizes with things like Past in Flames or even Mystic Retrieval in a pinch, as well as Enter the Infinite if you don't have the availability to win on the spot. Say perhaps you have 2 colored 0 drop ramps left, but not enough for the Laboratory Maniac. Use the two colored to cast Time Warp and win next turn. I also have Time Stretch in my list since it can function as a better Time Warp if the game manages to go very long. The latter mentioned Expropriate is a rather hefty drop, but when it resolves it is always a game winner in group play for me (the looks on people's faces at a turn 5 expropriate is also a bonus.) It usually gives you all the time you need to either tutor up, or draw into a tutor. If not, you've stolen your opponent's ramps or maybe even commanders, slowing them down considerably, as well as potentially giving you more mana to work with.
I also noticed a lack of Firemind's Foresight. Again, a high drop, but in some ways better than Intuition. Also being at instant speed so an easy way to get your combo right before the turn you go off, it doesn't require you fetching your pieces with Mystic Retrieval on the turn you go off, saving you colored mana, which I find a problem with going off on turn 4. On top of that, it gives you an outlet for your infinite mana which I find can be a problem. In case you were unaware, the play is making the 3-drop reiterate, 2-drop reality spasm, and 1-drop brainstorm. If your brainstorm is out of reach, High Tide or even Mystical Tutor are good calls. The former being obviously good, the latter letting you get a different outlet if you happen to be able to cast the FF with a blue to spare.
Have you thought about Pull from Tomorrow? It's almost an objective upgrade from Braingeyser being at instant speed. Discarding one card is not a big deal at all. Especially if you're going for that Laboratory Maniac win, discarding one out of 20 cards is fine. I'm not a huge fan of Braingeyser in general since it's done on your turn. There are strategies to do with that, but the instant speed option right before your turn is really nice.
Why the Future Sight? It's a very high drop that isn't mitigated by Mizzix and I don't see how it's worth a slot in the deck. I would suggest Mystic Remora instead. In a group game it very quickly becomes an Ancestral Recall.
This one's kinda mundane, but Thought Vessel instead of Chromatic Lantern is what I'd go with. It's basically a lower drop + inf hand size vs. color fixing. My problem with a 3 drop ramp is the fact that it doesn't help you cast Mizzix faster. The way I see it, once Mizzix resolves, it's merely two turns before you win the game, provided you have a decent hand. I'd rather have that one turn early Mizzix than color fixing. While I'm talking about ramp, Lotus Petal? Yet another way to get a turn earlier Mizzix.
I assume Temporal Fissure is for a little control, as well as Chaos Warp. I prefer Capsize for the reusability, plus I don't need to get Storm up first. Capsize also synergizes with extra turns spells like Expropriate. If you get those turns but no card advantage due to sheer bad luck, you can at least make your opponent's lives misery until you do get that card advantage. It also works as a crappy Temporal Fissure in a pinch.
I've also considered using a Scroll Rack, I just haven't gotten around to testing it. I was wondering if you have tried/considered one.
For counters, I never understand the lack of love for Counterflux. For only one more mana, it's a consistant tempo-stopper. Also Fuel for the Cause I find to be good. With at least two expirience, it's just a counterspell+.
Hope this comment wasn't too much of a read, I'm just rather passionate about Mizzix as a commander and I'm always looking to improve and learn.
8 hours ago
I'm thinking of changing my Kydele/Thrasios deck into Kydele/Vial Smasher. This deck definitely offers inspiration! My current deck is Thrasios and Kydele: Eldrazi Envoys
A couple suggestions: you may wanna include cards that have high CMC but get cost reductions like Blasphemous Act, Dig Through Time, and Treasure Cruise. The new "undaunted" cards like Curtains' Call and Seeds of Renewal could be good too.
22 hours ago
No worries. To a point I understand the desire to keep avg cmc low but I really feel that it shouldn't be used as a metric for whether a deck is good or bad. That's one of the things that has ALWAYS bugged me about cedh. The first thing people do when evaluating a deck is look at the cmc and dismiss it if it's "too high".
e.g. you have Kozilek but you aren't ever casting it. It's literally there so you can discard it to reshuffle for with your commander. In essence it's cmc is but it adds to your deck's cmc.
Also, cards like Blasphemous Act or anything with Delve is going to artificially bump your cmc more than is deserved. (When was the last time you played Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time for full price)
3 days ago
Insurrection is a one-card win con. Two if you count the counterspell you may need to counter the guy who counters Insurrection.
Time Stretch doesn't have that raw power, but that does not make it unworthy of inclusion.
1 week ago
First things first- its important to know the aproxamate format that your friends play- casual 'throw whatever together and we'll self regulate' is great, but needs to be discussed. If they're playing modern then this deck will be a little slow due to the larger surge cards. I'd look at things like Mana Leak, Flame Slash etc. With this deck- the construction is a little creature heavy. 3 Enigma drake/4 stormchaser/3 swiftspear/3 jori is enough to back a very solid spells deck. The tournament play version is based around Delver of Secrets Flip and swiftspear and is affectionately referred to as 'delver'. Lists looked something like Izzet Delver pior to Brainstorm, Gitaxian Probe and Treasure Cruise bans and after that something like Pyrodrakedelver is still pretty commonly played. I'd reccomend looking up the top 8's for ideas if you go that way.
The core gameplan is just to play small creatures then use spells to protect your creatures and finish the game. Izzet Charm and Vapor Snag or Unsummon are super practical here, and if you want to push closer to midrange in a more casual meta Spellheart Chimera does a decent impression of a second enigma drake and can be backed by a powerful engine in Faithless Looting/Cathartic Reunion/Izzet Charm/Think Twice/Burning Vengance/Secrets of the Dead/Flame Jab. Your lands are good enough to run pretty much any of this, though I'd consider Wandering Fumarole or Faerie Conclave in place of swiftwater if trading permits
Big advice in noncompetitive metas where you're mostly playing with the same deck over and over, have a core of 3 4-ofs that make your deck tick- in this deck it would be 4- 3 ofs in enigma Drake, Jori En, Ruin Diver, Monastery Swiftspear and Stormchaser Mage, 4 Lightning Bolt, then run a lot of singleton cards. A Negate, a Mana Leak, a Reverberate a Redirect, a Temur Battle Rage, an Electrolyze , a Wild Ricochet etc so that no two games go exactly the same. Otherwise, things get stale pretty quick. If things get competitive, pick up full sets of the things that have been working best, then keep a stable of cards to switch in and out as the game permits. Sideboards are your friend if things go like that.
1 week ago
I want Goblin Recruiter unbanned in Legacy. I don't think it's on anyone's radar though to have any changes.
I'm wondering what will happen with Vintage. Last update saw the restriction of Gitaxian Probe and Gush. These haven't done anything to the metagame as Mentor and MUD variants continue to dominate the format. If anything, the format got worse because archetypes outside of those two decks were hit disproportionately. I still think the problem is with Monastery Mentor. Gitaxian Probe and Gush were merely symptoms of a larger problem.
Personally, I don't think Death's Shadow is all that good. The deck is pretty glass cannon. The problem isn't the power the deck, it's that there isn't a strong control deck left in the format.
A lot of the U/R/x control lists have so many issues sideboarding against everything you just have to cut your losses and save the space, hoping you don't need a certain card in your 75. The loss of Splinter Twin and Dig Through Time really hurt the archetype. B/G/x Rock variants haven't been able to keep up much, either.
There's been sprinkles of good control cards here and there (Nahiri, the Harbinger and Fatal Push come to mind). There's just not a whole lot of catch-all answers in the format for control or card advantage engines. Maybe we need something like a Deathrite Shaman unban or Dig Through Time taken off? Artifact lands so Affinity can just race Death's Shadow even faster and keep the deck in check that way? Maybe they should just reprint Force of Will, Misdirection, or Daze in a Standard set so we have something that's a consistent Counterspell and we can eliminate the turn 4 rule?
Honestly, I hope they don't ban anything in Modern and start unbanning cards. I think we've gone in circles with the format. A lot of the No Banlist Modern tournaments have shown things are actually quite diverse. If anything, the banlist is hurting format diversity. The real problematic cards are essentially Treasure Cruise, Skullclamp, Stoneforge Mystic, Green Sun's Zenith, Blazing Shoal, Umezawa's Jitte, Sensei's Divining Top, Jace, the Mind Sculptor, and Hypergenesis. While other cards on the banlist may also be problematic, these are the only ones that really come to mind as being cards that should never come off.
1 week ago
Treasure Cruise, or do you think Delve is too complex?