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Dragonskull Summit enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Swamp or a Mountain.
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Dragonskull Summit Discussion
1 day ago
I hope at least some of this is helpful!
First of all, 1x Bojuka Bog can be a mainboard land that fulfills the same utility as Tormod's Crypt. An additional 1x Scavenger Grounds can supplement the Bog and add flexibility. If you're planning on shelling out crazy cash for shocks and fetches, you might as well add 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , too.
I second UndeadxPenguins in moving the Leylines to the sideboard. I might go even farther and say that Leyline of the Void might not be worth it. Generally speaking, I prefer spells that apply to all opponents - IE - I'm excluded from the effects.
Multiplayer burn is basically impossible. I totally understand wanting to make a Rakdos burn deck instead of a Boros one. I, too, feel a seemingly innate desire to break convention. Additionally, I've had the fortune of pulling a full set of Dragonskull Summit s from booster packs, so I've trying to build a multiplayer Rakdos deck. That said, neither red nor black are colors I use regularly or primarily and I'm sorry to report my efforts have yet to yield any results I'm particularly pleased with. For reference, my most recent attempts are: Tainted Aria and Forgotten Elements. One take-away from those decks Aria of Flame and Priest of Forgotten Gods - each says "...any number of target players..." or "each opponent" - there aren't hoards of cards that have language like that, so any spells that strike your fancy that have language like that are going to be good. All that said, I doubt you'll ever be able to deal damage fast enough to more than one opponent with any consistency. That doesn't mean you can't make a darn mean deck, but that perhaps it would be better to forego the goal of speed in favor of broader, repeatable effects.
I think one way around the obvious limit of trying to deal out 40 or even 60 damage with a burn deck in a multiplayer format is to include more passive threats - dropping some instants in favor of creatures and enchantments - I'm thinking spells like Eidolon of the Great Revel , Harsh Mentor , and Manabarbs . While, like spells that say "all opponents," there aren't a ton of these sort of spells out there, there are some good ones.
Since you're running so few creatures, perhaps it would also be worth considering board wipes as a means of dealing with multiplayer threats. Blasphemous Act comes to mind, as well as the eternally popular Damnation .
Angrath, the Flame-Chained seems like a possible fit, though I question the CMC viability.
I suggest you add "Multiplayer" to this decks hubs.
I don't put any stock in TappedOut's "Competitive Meter." I showed with my deck, 100% Competitive, 100% Loser that the Meter does not take into account the interaction between cards. So if you make changes and the Meter says it's less competitive, I wouldn't worry at all.
Sideboard: Everlasting Torment , Dismember - deals with indestructibles, Extirpate / Surgical Extraction , Geth's Verdict - deals with Hexproofs and Shrouds, Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality .
5 days ago
you certainly don't want Anger of the Gods in a creature based deck. the only creatures here that even survive it are the ones that aren't even minotaurs. Rakdos's Return isn't very good either. 3 mana to make an opponent discard a card and take 1 damage is a horrible exchange. theres lots of better removal you could be using like Lightning Bolt , Terminate , Fatal Push , or Cast Down . you can upgrade your lands with fetchlands like Bloodstained Mire and checklands like Dragonskull Summit . Felhide Petrifier combos really well with Rageblood Shaman . if an attacking creature has both deathtouch and trample, you only need to assign 1 damage to each blocker before the rest can be
1 week ago
Looking at your manabase ...
Based on Frank Karsten's classic article, our target is 19x B, 14x R, and 12x W sources. This will give us a 90% chance of being able to have R or B on Turn 1, BB on Turn 3, and W on turn 3 (postboard). Your current manabase (as I type this): 19 Lands, but with only 15x B, 13x R, and 5x W sources. Here are a few thoughts:
- If you can spend ~$30 more: -2x Mountain, -2x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , -2x Dragonskull Summit / +4x Concealed Courtyard , +2x Sulfurous Springs . This is still 19 Lands, but will yield 19x B, 13x R, and 9x W sources and should play MUCH more smoothly.
- If you have any more Green Fetches or Shocks available, (especially Overgrown Tomb , which can also tap for Black), you might be better off ignoring the White splash, and just using the old Bridgevine manabase, with some mix of Destructive Revelry / Assassin's Trophy / Nature's Claim for Enchantment hate instead of Wispmare .
- No matter what, I'd recommend dropping the Dragonskull Summit s. Our deck REALLY wants a Turn 1 play, and because they enter tapped on Turn 1 they're quite meh. Basic Swamps would be better, as they would at least raise you to 17x B, 13x R, and 5x W sources.
Good luck (and skill) with the deck!
1 week ago
The manabase challenge is that the deck really wants B or R on Turn 1, BB by Turn 3, and W by Turn 3 (postboard). Based on Frank Karsten's classic article on manabases, this means we need should be running 19x B sources, 14x R sources, and 12x W sources. The current 18-Land configuration is actually a little shy ... it only gives us 18x B sources, 14x R sources, and 11x W sources.
Good places to save some money are with ...
- Blackcleave Cliffs : Cards like Sulfurous Springs (or Mana Confluence and Gemstone Mine , if you already have them) aren't as good (especially in longer games where the lifeloss will add up, and we'll eventually lose the Mine), but at least they won't slow the deck down any.
- Fetchlands: The deck needs 8x Black fetchlands but any of them will work. Polluted Delta , Bloodstained Mire , Marsh Flats , and Verdant Catacombs can all fetch a Blood Crypt or a Godless Shrine just fine, so feel free to mix and match whith whatever is least expensive/whatever you might already have. Of note, the Fetches serve double-duty in the deck, as they are GREAT for recurring Bloodghast.
- Godless Shrine : The deck needs at least 1x (so we can find W with a Fetchland), but now that I take a hard look at it, I think Concealed Courtyard might actually be better here.
Adding Basics will make the early turns much more inconsistent (or cause additional mulligans), and adding checklands (e.g., Dragonskull Summit )/reveal lands (e.g., Foreboding Ruins ) will slow the deck down on early turns (or cause additional mulligans). I'm not honestly sure how bad the effect is going to be, especially once the London Mulligan kicks in ...
Good luck ... budget brewing is REALLY tough, and I wish I could help more!
Having Creature-based Enchantment/Artifact removal is better in this deck than Instant-based because we can sac' the Creature for value with the Evoke trigger on the stack, it counts towards Vengevine 's triggered ability, it gets around Chalice of the Void on 1 (if we were on Nature's Claim ) or 2 (if we were on Assassin's Trophy ), and it provides a 1/3 beater with evasion. The only exception I can think of is vs. Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice , where we sometimes wish we could float mana and kill the Lattice at Instant-speed.
Of note, this plan also gives us "extra" sideboard slots, because we can use Flamekin Harbinger as Wispmare numbers 4-5. Flamekin is especially amazing in the Mirror, since it can grab a Mare if they have Leyline of the Void in their opener and Vengevine if they don't,
2 weeks ago
did Godless Shrine become a non budget card recently? it seems like a pretty decent fetch target and you are lacking Blood Moon which is the main reason why pyromancer decks ran basics, inversely the Dragonskull Summit is a terrible budget Blackcleave Cliffs , as it's a land you can't use turn 1 making a lot of 1 land looting hands unkeepable, as a budget they likely would operate better as mountains, overall I would suggest acquiring either the cliffs or Blood Moon to push the deck.
3 weeks ago
I’m going to go with 2 Bedevil and a fourth Dragonskull Summit . Based on Frank Karsten’s math, this deck’s average CMC warrants playing 27 lands. If it feels like too many, I’ll switch the land for the Bedevil .
I’m not sure on the mono red match up, but I’ll definitely keep Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice in mind.
Vraska's Contempt feels right for the left over sideboard slot.
1 month ago
You should definitely consider running the buddy check lands ( Dragonskull Summit , Sulfur Falls , and Drowned Catacomb ) over any of the ETB-tapped dual lands you're currently are running. They are not very expensive compared to other rare dual lands. Also consider running the slow check lands ( Smoldering Marsh and Sunken Hollow ), as these will also be an upgrade to the many gain-life tap lands you're currently running. You'll find that these alone will make your deck more consistent overall.
And, if you get the chance (or budget, as I assume this is a budget deck theme deck) it wouldn't hurt to invest in the Shocklands as well ( Steam Vents , Blood Crypt , and Watery Grave ). But the above check lands are pretty cheap and will serve the deck well enough!
1 month ago
Heyo! I've been out of standard for a while (aside from MTGA), so take my suggestions with a grain of salt, but I think you've got a pretty good base going, especially since you say you're new to magic. Bear with me here, since I don't know what you count as "budget", so I'm going to assume anything below $5. So lets get to the changes:
Open the Graves - This one is a little less easy, I haven't playtested the deck so I don't know the mileage you get from it, but here are my issues - First, it's 5 mana. It's the only card at this cost and it tops off your list. Second, it doesn't do anything when it comes down to help you win. Third, it relies on you have a board that is dying, so you can get value off of it.
Blood Divination - There are cheaper alternatives you could go for here.
Recover - This card basically does nothing. It costs 3 mana and doesn't really bring you closer to winning. The card draw is nice, but I'm sure tehre are better options.
Graveyard Marshal - Eats your bodies to make more zombies allowing you to go wide - $.50
Vizier of the Scorpion - Creates a zombie and provides your tokens with deathtouch if you decide to keep Vraska - $.10
Josu Vess, Lich Knight - now I'll admit this one is a bit out there, but it is a zombie, it has menace, it has a decent body for the cost and assuming you make it to the late late late game, it's a great finisher. This is my lowest recommendation though.
Costly Plunder - Draws 2 instead of 3, but is an instant so you can respond to creature removal by casting it. It's also half the cost. - $.10
Lastly, you may want to consider adding more Cast Down s, drop the land count by one (if you're dropping the 5 mana slot), and lastly Dragonskull Summit for mana fixing (these are about $5 each). Thaaaaat's everything, I think.
Dragonskull Summit occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.11%
BRG (Jund): 1.45%
UBR (Grixis): 1.18%
RBW (Mardu): 1.43%
All decks: 0.16%
All decks: 0.89%