Felidar Guardian

Legality

Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Standard Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Brawl Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Aether Revolt (AER) Uncommon

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Felidar Guardian

Creature — Cat Beast

When Felidar Guardian enters the battlefield, you may exile another target permanent you control, then return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control.

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Felidar Guardian Discussion

Paladin_11111 on Your Fate is Sealed.

1 day ago

Scary to see all of the infinite combo possibilities. Well Felidar Guardian for sure. Gonna have to get together soon and playtest. +1

Ikeno on Aminatou: Nihilistic Tendencies (Stax)

2 days ago

Another card you can add to get the combo with the Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Panharmonicon + Felidar Guardian is Sunscorched Desert

l7lancer on 100% cEDH Aminatou shenanigans

2 days ago

While Aminatou has solid combo potential with Felidar Guardian and Altar of the Brood this deck doesn't seem like true cEDH.

Don't get me wrong it looks solid and there's potential, but there are way to many "Do-Nothing" cards... Or cards that will never see play on a cEDH table.

If you really want to make this deck 100% you should take a look at other Esper decks or the cEDH staples.

SynergyBuild on Arahbo, Xenagos... for Cats EDH

2 days ago

Sterling Grove is a powerful card, but not just for Sylvan Library, if that is your best option, don't run it.

I understand Spike Feeder and Archangel of Thune combo perfectky well, simply in a competitive environment, either one will be countered, or they will be removed with something like Chain of Vaporing the Archangel, in response to the first activation of Spike Feeder. That is a blowout like a Time Walk since you can't activate it again without killing the Spike Weaver. Felidar Sovereign with Chord of Calling is your best actual wincon, but I mean... 9 mana/creatures? What turn are you on? If this deck consistently puts out creatures and mana like that by turn 3, since you need to win by turn 4 at the latest for this to be a combo/aggro cEDH deck, then run it, I just don't think that is plausible.

2/2 Cats aren't a real strategy on their own. They don't make mana, and so don't combo out and win, simply put, I could get into Commander theory and the 'Aggro Problem', but I will just copy and paste the work I already did for something else:

So, in EDH, there is a common dilemma called The Aggro Problem, in which is, what many believe to be the reason for the idea that EDH is so slow. Unlike Modern, Legacy, Standard, Pauper, or Vintage, EDH has each player's original life totals set to 40, or 50 for the Oloro, Ageless Ascetic player. This would be a bit difficult for normal aggro to exist, but because it is a four-player format, from the point of veiw of an aggro player, they need to dole out 120 life, which isn't something they can do nearly at all. Even if your opponents start killing each other, an aggro player would averagely have to deal 60 damage if they attack each other and not you, or averagely 80 damage under a normal circumstance of each player dealing out damage to each other.


This is too much for them. Generally there are a few way aggro compensates, one of which abuses the already built-in system of 'Commander Damage.' Building up a ton of auras and equipment on a commander to make it huge and swing in for 21 damage works in a lot of cases, and is called "Voltron." The main issue with this is a cheap and fast commander like Rafiq of the Many is too easily prone to removal like Swords to Plowshares, and more controlling commander like Sigarda, Host of Herons or Uril, the Miststalker are generally a bit too , slow to get around board wipes like Toxic Deluge, Wrath of God, Damnation, Day of Judgment and Supreme Verdict.


But there are other tricks aggro has up its sleeves, think infect. Really, infect is just as powerful in Modern or Legacy than in EDH, right? Well, not exactly, yes infect still only needs to deal 10 poison counters to kill a player, but you still have to deal at least 30 damage given your opponents can't kill faster than you, or if they are also playing infect. It's tracked differently, so if someone is at one life, they can take up to 9 poison counters and still live. Running Atraxa, Praetors' Voice can give some inevitability to your infect win, and stuff like Saskia the Unyielding can also be run to make you only have to deal 20 damage to win with infect.

The biggest issue with infect is that players generally frown upon it, and will target you, or player cards like Solemnity as a counter to it. Some playgroups set the poison counters needed to kill to 15 or 20, and some outright ban it. Also, since there are no commanders other than Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon directly support it, there is little consistency to infect decks, despite there explosive turns and wins.


Well, that is the aggro problem, it is what leads so many decks to be control, midrange, combo, or hybrid builds, and why the format is generally considered slow. This isn't to say decks can't win turn 1 or anything, tons of combo decks can, however, this is what leads to the final point. Combo is generally the best win condition, not to say a deck like Edric, Spymaster of Trest shouldn't beat face to win, but for most decks, combo with differing levels of disruption is the best strategy.

Many playgroups don't use combos, whether they are more casual, frown upon combo, outright ban it, or simply run more beatdown strategies and don't care for combo particularly. This is perfectly fine, and reasonable, but it is the work-around for the aggro problem, while not relying solely on control.

Okay, so now you see the problem with aggro, and why 2/2 cats in essence aren't a wincon, Archangel of Thune can be removed in response to the first Spike Weaver activation, and so aren't as instant win as you thought, and even so, unless you have enough creatures to kill each other player, it isn't going to win the game, as they will simply win on their turn, in a cEDH meta. Since Felidar Guardian combo is too slow generally, and you only run 4 tutors for the Thune-Weaver Combo, it isn't a fast combo deck.

That isn't to say it isn't competitive, you could make it stax, run the fast elf-ramp, and Armageddon until you win, but that still requires a different gameplan.


Again, all of this is meaningless if you don't want to make it stax or fast combo, but without blue, your card draw isn't their for permission control, and that means you aren't able to consistently make this cEDH competitive, but I won't claim it is bad or anything, it is simply a high-powered mid-level EDH deck, and I think that is fine.

You were very right on one of your points on that many other commanders would be better, I would suggest Selvala, Explorer Returned and do something like Explorey-Os! Selvala Combo/Stax.


On ramp, most of the options you mentioned were sub-par, Tithe, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip, Mirari's Wake all are either too expensive or not impactful enough, 1 mana ramp is where you want to be, the fast rocks, Ancient Tomb/Gaea's Cradle/Gemstone Caverns, elves, etc.


Good luck!

Enral on "Gods, Continuum, Even You. All is [[Nix]]."

4 days ago

You should cut cards that do not contribute to the stax strategy or towards winning for cEDH:

Good luck!

Megalomania on Aminatou: Top-deck Matters

4 days ago

Panharmonicon lets you get more out of the ETB effects. Felidar Guardian is pretty much an auto-include in Aminatou decks as well as Altar of the Brood.

Entreat the Dead becomes so much better with Insidious Dreams.

My list relies more on flicker effects but you might find some pieces there that are useful in yours. Please do check it out.

Megalomania on Aminatou Budget Control

6 days ago

I’m not very good with budget decks but I think the following cards would be great here:

Flicker Effects - Ghostway, Ghostly Flicker, Eerie Interlude, Felidar Guardian

Manifest - Mastery of the Unseen

ETB Effects - Rishadan Footpad, Rishadan Cutpurse, Rishadan Brigand, Oath of Jace, and Archaeomancer

Utility - Oath of Teferi and Panharmonicon

I’m also building a similar deck. Maybe you can take a look at it so we can exchange ideas.

Onihanta on Subjective Reality

6 days ago

Panharmonicon had somehow slipped my mind, but Oath of Teferi and Felidar Guardian are both already in the deck!

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