Felidar Guardian

Felidar Guardian

Creature — Cat Beast

When Felidar Guardian enters the battlefield, you may exile another target permanent you control, then return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control.

Felidar Guardian Discussion

bspymaster on Breya Fast Combo

2 weeks ago

As another note, Felidar Guardian + Saheeli Rai also procs that combo (and has the added bonus that saheeli has some usage with artifacts as well, if you so desire)

Argy on Pioneer meta

2 weeks ago

It seems that after the last bans Control is becoming very dominant.

Izzet Phoenix is still strong. It has probably been the most consistent deck that hasn't been effected by bans.

Mono black Aggro decks are also still doing well.

A new deck doing the rounds is mono blue Tempo, and that has a new tool in its belt after Theros Beyond Death is released. The new Thassa god will be able to flicker Master of Waves once a turn FOR NO COST.


There has been a lot of talk lately about an infinite combo which will become viable once Theros Beyond Death drops.

In case you haven't heard of it, it combines the new Heliod god with Walking Ballista

The Ballista must start with two +1/+1 counters on it.

Give it Lifelink with Heliod, then remove a counter to deal damage to your opponent, which will add a counter, remove that counter to deal damage, which will add a counter ad infinitum.

People think that Wizards may ban Walking Ballista if the combo becomes too popular.

My guess is that it will, due to the popularity of the former Felidar Guardian / Saheeli Rai infinite combo in Pioneer, which saw Felidar Guardian banned.


If you have any thoughts on the current or upcoming meta, feel free to share them.

Funkydiscogod on Artifact Combo deck - any ...

4 weeks ago

Often it's the cards in other sets that make a card ban-worthy. This will require a little explanation.

The best example of this, is Rampaging Ferocidon . It was banned when Standard was KLD/AER/AKH/HOU/XLN/RIX. When it was unbanned, standard was XLN/RIX/DOM/M19/GRN/RNA.

The way I would read the "must have been legal in standard at that time" rule, is that Rampaging Ferocidon would be legal as long as you're not using KLD/AER/AKH/HOU as any of your other sets.

We can look at other cards, and see often they're fine until another card is printed. Take the example of Emrakul, the Promised End : it was ok until Aetherworks Marvel was printed just a few sets later, then they had to ban it. I would read that rule as saying Emrakul, the Promised End is legal as long as you're not also using the Kaladesh block.

And little Emrakul isn't the only one that was banned because a card from another set was misbehaving. Another famous example is Stoneforge Mystic that wasn't banned until Batterskull was legal.

The example of Felidar Guardian is good for illustrating a card that would be completely banned in that format: When it was banned, standard was BFZ/OGW/SOI/EDM/KLD/AER, and it stayed banned until it rotated out. The way to interpret the rule, is that as long as you're using any sets before or after Aether Revolt, you can't use Felidar Guardian.

I guess it is easier to read the "at that time" clause as "once it is banned, it was always banned", though.

Boza on Artifact Combo deck - any ...

4 weeks ago

"must have been legal in standard at that time" kinda of excludes the banned cards, otherwise I would have suggested Saheeli Rai and Felidar Guardian to fill out the rest of the rare and uncommon slots in the Twin deck.

weezel on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

1 month ago

Spirits

I practice a lot with my pod and that's where I do alot of deck revising. Even though my pod is competitive, the decks still vary and are different compared to tournament play. So it's always a battle of which cards to keep or switch out.

I still haven't had any time to play or look through the deck; but wanted to comment still just on my experience which I'm sure is different than yours.

You stated you switched out Reveillark for Worldgorger Dragon and that you have yet to use the Worldgorger Dragon combo and the same is with me. I have yet to use it and feel as of now, its taking up slots. I want to say, I have used Reveillark while it was in the deck. So based off these two cards alone and nothing else, I would add Reveillark back just based off the fact I've used it and have yet to use Worldgorger Dragon

After stating that, I am 100% behind buffing up Line 1 or Line 2. With the addition of Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the Guard although it looks great on paper, seeing the capabilities they'll add, it does in fact take you way outside your scope; they are incredibly great tutors but I feel the synergy lacks, by that meaning there is no snowball It's a One and Done deal. Let's say you do add in these two in place of WGD and BHK. What is the probability of you drawing into them? If you draw into a Demonic Tutor on T2 are you really going to tutor for either one of those cards? I dont think so, I feel they are cards that will be useful midway in your game or if the first 2 lines are disrupted.

I use Imperial Recruiter in my Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck but that's because it synergizes so well. Allowing me to tutor for one goblin, after another, after another allowing them to hit the battlefield that same turn with their low CMC and act as enablers. Thus, ending the game that turn.

You have more experience and you know this deck a hell of a lot more than I do. So that is also where things might make more sense to you as to me. I'm still learning it, so my opinions might not make sense.

I have Mox Diamond in the deck and it has worked greatly. I wouldn't think twice about taking it out. If you're able to do so, I would highly suggest adding it. Also you added Aven Mindcensor , why the addition of Chains of Mephistopheles ? which synergizes with Mausoleum Secrets but is it to Prevent additional card draw for the low CMC it provides? Act as a Thoughtseize if you're stuck with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker allowing you to discard? If you have Aven Mindcensor why not go the route of adding in Stranglehold and/or even Maralen of the Mornsong . Why not test out that route? Instead of trying to get away with adding Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the Guard . I understand you're trying to stay in the lines of comboing and trying to go off but It's just a thought.

I have Sire Of Insanity in the deck, one game I got Kaalia of the Vast out and swinging on T2 dumping Sire Of Insanity onto the field. That completely disrupted the game. I drew into Avacyn, Angel of Hope on T3 and everyone ended up scooping by T6. Luck of the draw, I thought it was quite fun and funny. By doing so, I had no intentions of any combos which is why I played it to begin with.

There was also one point where I had added Altar of the Brood and Felidar Guardian . Using the Buried Alive Combo but instead dumping Karmic Guide , Restoration Angel and Felidar Guardian . I understand there is an additional step by having to dump Altar of the Brood onto the field making it a step slower but with its low CMC cost, it's not that difficult. Also, I would only tutor up that combo if Altar of the Brood was in my opening hand. I also would pull it off after they were expecting the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combo, so it added a bit of confusion.

As with anything in this game, you just got to throw things in and play the games out. That's really the only way you'll get any idea if it'll work or not. seeing it on paper looks nice but how well will it actually perform? It's just time consuming because it isn't like we can play 100 games back to back to figure out what cards can stay and go.

I'm definitely going to try and get some games in over the holidays, i'll get back to you with what cards I have in that are different to yours. Let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Keep us updated.

Futuremonk on White Zombie

1 month ago

Thanks! Felidar Guardian is a great card, but it doesn't technically return creatures to your hand to recast them. So I would need to flicker Whitemane Lion or something like that with it to get the same effect, and at 4 mana it's a little too pricey.

I've considered cutting Ancestral Statue and Blinking Spirit for the same reason. At 4 mana, something like Dust Elemental , which returns three creatures to your hand, or Eiganjo Free-Riders , which returns a creature each turn for free, is the sort of payoff I really want.

LordMithos on White Zombie

1 month ago

Felidar Guardian also does what you're looking for!

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