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Kiora, Master of the Depths
Planeswalker — Kiora
+1: Untap up to one target creature and up to one target land.
-2: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put up to 1 creature card and/or a land card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.
-8: You get an emblem with "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it fight target creature." Then put three 8/8 blue Octopus creature tokens onto the battlefield.
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Kiora, Master of the Depths Discussion
2 days ago
Another pretty major tuning pass. The main thing I found after playing this deck a few times was that it wasn't interactive enough with other players. Especially those that had any Flying creatures (I had ZERO answers to flying, other than Constant Mists!). So, in the interest of upping this interaction, I have trimmed out a good amount of the "Awaken" theme to make room for better cards, and more removal, more answers.
These cuts aren't easy to decide on... I'd really love to find a way to fit in 4-6 more lands and really lean into the Landfall theme even harder, but I'm hesitant. I have really come to love the Rude Awakening+Teleportal(overloaded) combo!
5 days ago
I like the strategy here a lot!
I wonder if Damia, Sage of Stone might be a helpful commander since you do so much top-deck manipulation.
I also think Arbiter of the Ideal is a house in this deck. Have you tested with fewer, more targeted non-permanent spells to take full advantage of that card? Maybe run a few creatures like Kiora's Follower and the Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal combo?
You could tutor up the Arbiter with lots of BG cards (Dark Petition, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Worldly Tutor, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Rune-Scarred Demon, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, etc.).
I worry that the number of instants and sorceries you run might interfere with Arbiter's value.
Anyhow - sweet strategy and happy brewing!
1 week ago
@OpenFire_V2: I was using Voyaging Satyr at the beginning but found I had trouble blocking/protecting planeswalkers (and my life total). Voyaging Satyr is definitely better for going big and I wish I had more room.
Overgrowth isn't in because by the time I get to 3 mana, I can usually cast a planeswalker (Arbor Elf + 2x Forest -> Utopia Sprawl -> tap + untap the enchanted Forest for 4 mana, cast Kiora, Master of the Depths and so on). My other 3-drop slots are taken up by Kitchen Finks, again, so I can preserve my life total and protect planeswalkers.
3 weeks ago
That's a good idea I'd say in terms of keeping the white in the sideboard to make the deck a bit more consistent. If you are going to try out the big mama route: I'd recommend checking this deck out for more of a clearer picture:
This deck uses Kiora, Master of the Depths in conjunction with Garruk Wildspeaker as well as Utopia Sprawl & Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to heavily ramp into cards like Genesis Wave. U/G Gensis Wave tends to fundamentally ramp through the use of devotion and planeswalkers to make Nykthos a broken card. I don't know how devotional you want to go or even how realistic it is to run Nykthos in your deck. However, if you can make it work, you can basically ramp faster than any deck that isn't running the Devoted Druid / Vizier of Remedies infinite mana combo.
I didn't mention Kiora, Master of the Depths earlier because I personally find it to be a weaker choice for ramping than that of Nissa, Worldwaker. Although for your deck Kiora might even be better cause you can use her minus ability to Traverse the Ulvenwald for Biovisionary (or a copy) or a key land you might need.
4 weeks ago
Some that I didn't see in the list but I run include Bear Umbra, Chief Engineer, City of Shadows, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Etherium Sculptor, Foundry Inspector, Gemhide Sliver, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Gyre Sage, Herald's Horn, Hickory Woodlot, Hollow Trees, Kiora, Master of the Depths, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Legion's Landing Flip, Mage-Ring Network, Manaweft Sliver, Myriad Landscape, Nature's Will, Nissa, Vital Force, Nissa, Worldwaker, Patron of the Orochi, Rushwood Grove, Sand Silos, Saprazzan Cove, Saprazzan Skerry, Sword of Feast and Famine, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Training Grounds, and Urza's Incubator.
1 month ago
Okay, I took out Leo; also Kiora, Master of the Depths because it mills my planeswalkers and board-wipes. Treasure Mage was replaced by Narset Transcendent because it wasn't necessary, and Narset is just really cool.
1 month ago
2 months ago
I say take out that Flickerform and Rite of Replication out of the deck, Don't get me wrong, they are fantastic cards, but there is really nothing to gain spending 4 mana to blink a singular creature, or dumping 9 mana into something that doesn't win you the game, but only draws attention, I would say yes to that if this was a voltron build or a control shell. Roon is a creature based deck at the end of the day not either of those archetypes.
There are basic lands called Wastes, They are colorless lands that are supremely useful if you are running Eldrazi Displacer, especially since they're basics (you could also be a dick and play Thought-Knot Seer like me). If you ran either a couple more basics instead of those tap lands or put in the lands like these: Scattered Groves, Irrigated Farmland along with shock lands and/or the buddy land/tango land from BFZ, you can get rid of those top deck duds known as signets and run something more useful, like Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile. You should also run Solemn Simulacrum instead of wood elves based on how many basics you are playing, you could turn this into a hyper ramp deck on the side that's immune to Blood Moon and Back to Basics You could also take out that caravan and put in the ever useful Commander's Sphere, at its worst it can get you a card.
If you are really worried about torpor orb (which we Roon player's ALL should) Then I recommend this removal: Naturalize, Disenchant, Krosan Grip, Return to Dust, Angelic Purge, and my personal favorite, Bant Charm. Why bant charm? It does everything. It can take care of a pesky artifact (torpor orb) it moves a creature to the bottom of their owner's library (torpor orb on a stick: Hushwing Gryff, and Tocatli Honor Guard), and can hit an instant that you don't want to see, it's just good. Get that birthing pod ASAP. Paired with your deceiver exarch, Derevi, and felidar you can pod again and again! I'd say take out that extra blink, its not that necessary. Those instant and sorcery spells that blink do nothing on an empty board state, where restoration angel can be a blocker. Throw in more counterspells, they do more in top deck mode anyway.
Value is good, but it really means nothing if you can't kill someone, let alone the rest of the table, armada wurm is good, but you could do better! Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, and Avenger of Zendikar are fantastic threats by themselves, but what if I told you they had an exceedingly powerful interaction with Cathars' Crusade? I'll let that one sink in.
Some of the cards in the sideboard should be in the main deck, Thragtusk's leave the battlefield trigger gets around torpor orb, so you can still have a 5/3 and 3/3 team of beaters ready to kill the orb player (even if you can't gain that 5 life). There are even creatures that only benefit from leaving the battlefield, such as Nevermaker, or Meadowboon, and Reveillark recurs your whole deck as it stands when it leaves, and if you add the aforementioned summoner and hornet queen you can recur game enders, it can even go infinite with karmic guide and a sac outlet, like Ashnod's Altar, which I think you should be running anyway. Find a way to put in Prime Speaker Zegana, Duplicant, Mystic Snake, and Reclamation Sage into the deck, because they are way too good not to be played in your deck, let alone any Roon deck! You also won't need cards like Oblivion Ring if you have Thought-Knot Seer, reveals a hand and exiles a thing forever instead of having the risk of having it come back, and it's leave the battlefield trigger can make an ally! Day of Judgment hoses you just as much as the guy you are trying to punish, especially with how little recursion you are running. If you are scared of an out of hand board state get Duplicant or Fiend Hunter instead. I find Mirror Entity something I don't play, it doesn't give me value when it comes into play, and I need to pump mana into it to be good, I find myself using that mana to play more blink targets rather than the entity. You could also throw in another Planeswalker that actually benefits this decks overall game plan very well: Kiora, Master of the Depths, she untaps Roon, can get a creature or land we need, and if you ultimate her, gives us targeted removal when we blink our value creatures!
And for my final recommendation I point you towards the Minion Reflector, this baby does everything you could ever want. Doubles your ETB triggers (and LTB triggers depending) and gives you a disposable minion that can swing in with no repercussion! It can also go infinite with Reveillark, karmic guide, and Ashnod's altar to make an infinite army like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. If you want more suggestions just ask, or check out my Roon list for reference!