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Sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land: Remove a time counter from Greater Gargadon. Play this ability only if Greater Gargadon is suspended.
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Greater Gargadon Discussion
2 weeks ago
LeeRoy_Jenkiins, your mention of Souldrinker reminded me that I do have Unspeakable Symbol in the deck, which has been an absolute all-star. I like Souldrinker, but I don't like that he only puts the counter on himself. I'll consider finding a spot in the deck for him if I make some cuts.
I like Spawning Pit, but I'm on the fence. I'd never use the creature generation ability, meaning it'd only be a 2-mana sac outlet. While that in and of itself might not be too bad, I'm not sure if I want a card that I'd only use half of in the deck, especially when there are so many 2-mana or less sac outlets out there (Goblin Bombardment, Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Skullclamp, Greater Gargadon, Bloodthrone Vampire, Dark Privilege, Dross Hopper, etc).
Thanks for the suggestions!
3 weeks ago
Greater Gargadon is probably the best red sac outlet, and it can hit artifacts as well as creatures. Just leave it in exile rather than trying to rush out a quick vanilla (although large) creature.
2 months ago
Fun clue options? Grinding Station/Krark-Clan Ironworks Greater Gargadon Kuldotha Forgemaster Reshape Shape Anew Shrapnel Blast The Antiquities War Time Sieve Throne of Geth Trading Post Trash for Treasure
Second Harvest might let you jank out a mass production win.
3 months ago
Well, I would start off by saying there are two primary archetypes for sacrifice decks. Rally and Aristocrats. Rally lists focus on filling your graveyard with 2-3 cmc creatures, reviving them with Rally the Ancestors and the sacrificing them all -- likely with 2-3 Blood Artist effects in play to win. Aristocrats lists tend to focus less on 'combo' and more on 'synergy', and try to gain advantages through sacrifice effects. There has been some blending between the two archetypes recently, but I still feel they are distinct enough to be different.
There are then color combinations within each of the archetypes. Rally is often done in or . Aristocrats lists are often or . However with 3 color mana bases often comes a higher costs as fetch lands and shock lands are not always cheap. Two color mana bases are often fairly affordable, and you often can get away with no shocks or fecthes. With that being said, the first suggestion for a creature I would suggest is...
Bloodghast. However, he works best with fetch lands. In a pinch, you could use Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds, but they can feel pretty slow. But the ability to sacrfice Bloodghast, play a fetch land to return him to play, sacrifice him, sacrifice the fetch land to place another land into play to return Bloodghast to play so you can sacrifice him again -- that can add up to a lot of value.
Along similar lines, Gravecrawler can also generate a lot of advantage if you are playing enough zombies to have one in play with a fair level of consistency. Relentless Dead and Cryptbreaker can put in a lot of work with this guy.
While not all in black, Doomed Traveler, Tukatongue Thallid, Lingering Souls, Kitchen Finks, Bloodsoaked Champion, Mogg War Marshal, Sacred Cat, Voice of Resurgence, Tidehollow Sculler, Blisterpod, Bitterblossom, Orzhov Pontiff, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, and Keldon Marauders can all be sacrificed for good value.
As far as sacrifice engines go, Falkenrath Aristocrat, and Cartel Aristocrat are the namesakes. But Nantuko Husk, Bloodthrone Vampire, Greater Gargadon, Hidden Stockpile, Viscera Seer, Tymaret, the Murder King, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Bontu the Glorified, Mind Slash and Teysa, Orzhov Scion are all good ways to keep sacrificing permanents. I also like Fleshbag Marauder, Sidisi's Faithful, and Sidisi, Undead Vizier, but they only sacrifice one thing upon etb.
Value is also important to consider as there are a number of cards that fit well within these lists, but do not necessarily read 'please sacrifice me', or 'sacrifice all the things.' But, they can certainly give you the gas to pull ahead. Blood Artist and Zulaport Cutthroat's advantages can be obvious in a deck like this. Additionally, Eternal Witness, Dark Confidant (or Asylum Visitor for budget), Phyrexian Arena, Smuggler's Copter, Collected Company, Return to the Ranks, Eldritch Evolution, Abzan Ascendancy, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Grave Pact, Lord of the Undead+Nameless Inversion (also works well with any other zombie) might all have places in different shells.
These are just a cards that might be interesting. I don't want to build your deck for you. But if any of those cards piqued your interest, I can certainly throw out some additional ideas that play well with the cards you liked.
3 months ago
it does hit your own Bloodbraid Elf on the cascade trigger, which is a problem. But personally I like how many different archetypes it hits. That cascade tax also hits Living End and Restore Balance, for example. Even messes with the Greater Gargadon a little there with Balance. The tax obviously stops Storm, but it also hoses eggs, equipment combo, and any other random deck that "goes off". The tax is a pretty big hit to Ad Nauseam, they have to pay an extra for the Angel's Grace and then 2 extra for the Lightning Storm. That's an entire extra Lotus Bloom. The land neutering is obviously for Tron and Primetime, but even there it could have some additionally play against, say a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx deck.
tl:dr I think a lot of people are evaluating this card wrong, it's not a silver bullet that's going to instantly kill Tron and Storm but it's a solid sideboard multi-tool that can come in against a ton of different decks. That's what I like about it.
3 months ago
In:Wall of Roots, Sundering Titan, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Llanowar Elves, Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary, Koth of the Hammer, Mishra's Factory, Ancient Tomb, Greater Gargadon, Necromancy, Mirari's Wake, Parallax Wave, Song of the Dryads, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Brain Freeze, Anger of the Gods, Dack Fayden, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, Joraga Treespeaker, Iona, Shield of Emeria
3 months ago
This looks super fun. I think Greater Gargadon might be a goob addition, as saccing all of your creatures right before eve kicks in is very powerful.
3 months ago
targeted discard would be your best friend as removing threats with discard will not exile your bridges. Path to Exile also works wonders, but requires you to add white. I have played Mardu Bridge from Below lists before. I used Nahiri, the Harbinger (with a super spicy Worldspine Wurm to cheat into play with her ult), Path to Exile, Tidehollow Sculler, and Anger of the Gods for removal. I did not use Prized Amalgams, but I did use Bloodghast and Grave Crawlers for recursive zombie making machines, and Viscera Seer, Greater Gargadon, and Insolent Neonate as sacrfice outlets. I would also likley want to use at least 1 Hidden Stockpile now that it is a card. There would be times when I would anger to clear the board -- which would suck because I would then have to sacrifice everything and then find another zombie to restart my zombie chains so I could re-cast Grave Crawler. But Cradle of the Accursed, and Dunes of the Dead are both new cards that I did not have access to when I played the deck.