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Creature — Angel Spirit
Flying, protection from black
Echo (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.)
When Karmic Guide enters the battlefield, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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Karmic Guide Discussion
2 days ago
I just realized I can win with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in hand following this path
- Flash into Protean Hulk
- Get Karmic Guide and Carrion Feeder
- Return Protean Hulk with the Karmic Guide ability
- Sacrifice Protean Hulk tutor for Teardrop Kami and Body Snatcher
- Discard Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to the Body Snatcher , then sacrifice Body Snatcher to get Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
- From there you can continue with the combo
Also I just wanted to thank you all for helping me build this! I can say proudly say that this deck has made me so many fun memories playing against Control.
2 days ago
This is not a fully optimized list. It lacks a lot of fast mana, and generally has a lot of 'do-nothing' cards: the monuments, Oketra's Monument , and Bontu's Monument ; Field of Souls ; etc. That said, the deck is very interactive and incredibly strong when games go long.
Because the mana curve is relatively low, we are able to recur Gutterbones , Relentless Dead , etc. for card draw while still interacting with our opponents and assembling a win condition. The altars: Phyrexian Altar and Ashnod's Altar are game winning threats that go infinite in combination with Teysa, Orzhov Scion and one of our recur-able threats. A free sac outlet, and Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Gray Merchant of Asphodel goes for infinite drain. There are many other loops that can be made with our aristocrats...too many to list. I would encourage anyone adapting this list to play test a lot and familiarize yourself with the deck before taking it out for a spin with your play group.
Our protective equipment Swiftfoot Boots , Lightning Greaves , and Whispersilk Cloak are in the deck to protect Krav and/or Regna to preserve their ability to generate value. Because they are so expensive, if they are removed, it really sets the deck back, so be careful about when you deploy them--especially Krav.
3 days ago
Okay! I was finally able to take a look at your deck. I have some suggestions that I would add, but first it would help to have a better understanding of what you want from the deck. I assume you're not against infinite combos since you've included Darkest Hour , but are you going for a traditional Aristocrats theme? Do you want to win as fast as possible or are you trying to go a more stax route?
I notice you have Reveillark , but I don't see Karmic Guide . I highly recommend you pair them together for an infinite sac loop but also to be able to get everything out of your graveyard with power 2 or less.
Nim Deathmantle is another that works great with Teysa. It can even go infinite with Ashnod's Altar and your commander if you sacrifice the creature you get from Teysa first so you have 4 to pay to the mantle.
Ogre Slumlord is excellent for providing sac fodder. He gets ridiculous pretty fast.
I would add Zulaport Cutthroat or the new Cruel Celebrant in addition to your Blood Artist to have additional means of draining your opponents. You could also go big with Kokusho, the Evening Star if you want to throw him into a recurring sac loop.
Smothering Abomination is great for card advantage, and if you can find room for him, you probably won't regret it. Dark Prophecy is probably the best in terms of card draw and would recommend you find room for it. I might also replace Burnished Hart with Solemn Simulacrum . He'll draw you cards and ramp you. Plus you can recur him to use him again.
Speaking of graveyard recursion, Phyrexian Reclamation is one of the best in terms of getting single creatures back to sac again especially if they're cheap to cast. Athreos, God of Passage is amazing for recursion as well. You might also try Trading Post for recurring your artifacts which can be essential to your strategies.
As for more cards in your Maybeboard, Sun Titan is an excellent choice if you want to include him. Bojuka Bog is always handy when you're going against other graveyard decks, and Reliquary Tower is good to have on hand when you end up drawing half your deck, which can realistically happen if you run Darkest Hour . I would definitely keep Blasting Station but I'd probably cut Loxodon Warhammer and Felidar Sovereign . The way Teysa runs, they aren't the most useful cards in her arsenal. I've found Felidar just becomes the primary target when he comes out anyway.
Anyway...just a few thoughts. Like I said it would be helpful to know the direction you want to take the deck. Otherwise I'm just spitballing with cards I would personally use to run Teysa.
1 week ago
Here is my deck that I have been playing in paper that I have been trying to find an alternate hulk pile for.
1 week ago
Have you considered Fiend Hunter ? It goes inf with Sun Titan and Karmic Guide . It can be used to permanently exile a creature as long as you have a sac outlet. You can use it to protect a creature you want to keep on the board before you wrath. You can use it to get a second etb trigger off any of your creatures. You could also even be heckin lame and use it as was intended and just exile an opponents creature temporarily. It is an amazing piece in my Karador deck.
2 weeks ago
What up man, anything new to report?
I just wanted to give an update. So after playing maybe a total of 20 games without the following cards: Hellkite Tyrant and Grim Tutor . I can say the deck is averaging T5 wins. Sometimes T3,T4 and T6 but generally, the average is T5.
Gamble Surprisingly, has been working in my favor with tutoring, each time. This has been the most played tutor out of the bunch.
Combat Celebrant has been put inplace of Hellkite Tyrant but I still havent been able to abuse Combat Celebrant yet. I was going to add in Hatred in its place but at least for me, during my gameplays I wouldn't have enough life to knock someone out with it. Plus I feel its similar to Master of Cruelties + Kaalia of the Vast combo.
So now my thoughts are adding another win con. Is it a good idea? I dont know but since I haven't filled the gap of Hellkite Tyrant , it leads me to explore some options.
I'm thinking of adding in Felidar Guardian inplace of Combat Celebrant which takes the original place of Hellkite Tyrant and taking out either Steelshaper's Gift or Stoneforge Mystic for Altar of the Brood
It's just an idea, a suggestion, another way to win but I don't know. What are your thought's about it, like I said, just trying to come up with other ideas. Hell, in the end I might just throw in Hellkite Tyrant and be done. Who knows.
2 weeks ago
Suggestions: Karmic Guide , Ghostly Prison , Auriok Champion , Mask of Memory , Hour of Revelation , Suture Priest , Ranger of Eos , Reveillark , Swiftfoot Boots instead of Lightning Greaves , Mass Calcify , Court Street Denizen , Vesuva , Alms Collector
2 weeks ago
Thanks a lot for your kind words and freaking 12 upvotes VietMoneys, i'm flattered!
I get your curiosity about sac outlets, the problem is as follows:
a.) Mono- doesn't come with a lot of free sac outlets - if you have any others, i'd be more than happy to hear about them (if they qualify considering b.). Currently i'm considering Altar of Dementia , due to the fact it can fill my gy and double as top deck-tutor disruption.
b.) My playgroup frowns upon infinites (i'm cool with that) and both Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar combo waaay too easily. With this type of deck it's more or less impossible to avoid all combos (e.g. more than 1 -artifact + etb/die recursion/bounce option + free sac outlet + a value engine, say Cathars' Crusade ) but i try to avoid them enough not to look like bending our house rules on purpose.
Karmic Guide + Reveillark are similarily problematic as described under b.) when combined with a free sac outlet. Plus, they don't qualify to be recurred with Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle . The only exception to said parameter right now is Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite because she's a great non-infinite win con. I'd like to keep it that way.
Sun Titan is a nuts card, yet in this deck he's easily outclassed by the 10-ish recursing/bounce effects due to the simple fact i'm not blinking, i'm recasting things. For a total of i can usually recurr twice. Plus, he can't be reanimated by my commander.
You'd be surprised how well this deck actually works without its commander, because of the extreme redundancy of engines. Typically i start flooding the board until the setup is right to drop my commander. Significantly later than i planned when brewing the deck.
Anyhow, thanks again for the input, i'd be more than happy to hear about your feedback on my other decks. I'll have a go at yours, for sure.
Karmic Guide occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.53%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 2.94%
RBW (Mardu): 0.5%