Creature — Angel Spirit
Flying, protection from black
Echo (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.)
When Karmic Guide enters the battlefield, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
|Have (4)||, sonnet666 , rockleemyhero , metalmagic|
|Want (6)||keltuzade , Ninbi , lordswordfish , LostDamage , Etinifni , Ulberth|
Printings View all
|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Rare|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Rare|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
|Urza's Legacy (ULG)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Karmic Guide occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
WB (Orzhov): 0.53%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 2.94%
RBW (Mardu): 0.5%
Karmic Guide Discussion
22 hours ago
With regards to sac outlets, I actually made the decision a while ago to cut the number of outlets down in my list, in place of more card advantage and honestly I can say that I have found it to be better. There are 4 main sac outlets that I focus on, Blasting Station, Altar of Dementia, Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar. I also sport Starved Rusalka and Greater Good (which is insane btw with the release of Renegade Rallier), however that's really all the repeatable outlets I run.
The reasoning I found was that while you can run a bunch of sac outlets, ultimately you can create lots of combinations that don't do anything. For example, Saffi Eriksdotter + Karmic Guide + Fanatical Devotion, while being an infinite combo, doesn't actually achieve anything for the deck. And while you can add Soul of the Harvest for card draw, you now need 4 cards to generate value and even still can potentially not have the mana required to do anything as a follow up.
I appreciate that adding the Boonweaver Giant combo into the deck kind of skews the number of sacrifice outlets you want to run in the deck. That being said, generally if you're going to run the boonweaver combo then that should be the central focus of the deck, with the rest of the list leaning into supporting the combo. So cards like Idyllic Tutor are going to make the deck a lost stronger as you want more options to get a sac outlet and then get either boonwevaer or pattern down and then go from there. For me personally, I elected not to try and integrate this as a combo since I felt that it was strongest with the addition of black for the creature based support that is offered there. But again, I still think the general premise of "less situational sac outlets, more tutors/draw" will ultiamtely be beneficial for the deck.
As for the swaps you've suggested, I think that they seem decent, I personally would have gone for more draw over Caregiver but at the end of the day you need to build a list that's comfortable for your playstyle.
3 days ago
1 week ago
From here you can generat infinite mana, recast Thrasios and combo off.That line is quite compact however has to be done over multiple turns or requires an external untapper. There are lines which include cards like Felidar Guardian which can combo off in one turn:
- Eat a 3 cmc creature getting Felidar Guardian (untap pod)
Eat guardian getting Karmic Guide (bringing back guardian and unttaping pod)
Eat guardian getting Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Copy Karmic Guide getting back guardian and combo guardian and kik for infinite dudes
On the other hand, Polymorph or Mass Polymorph decks are designed with a very low creature count, however all of the creatures have huge impact (think Blightsteel Colossus). Then you use non-creature token generators (e.g. Lingering Souls) to give you fodder to polymorph into big stuff for cheap.
There is also Proteus Staff decks which can be polymorph decks, or can be completely creatureless except of the commander. Since staff lets you order the cards you put back (as opposed to it being random from most polymorph effects), you can stack your library basically let you play the whole deck in one hit. Elsha of the Infinite is a good example of this, since she can play the top card of your library. So you stack your deck andthen use cost reducers/untap effects to let you play all of your mana sources (e.g. mana rocks) and make them mana positive.
2 weeks ago
I know budget isn't the focus of deck but do you think Ulamog's shuffle effect could be replaced with Loaming Shaman and Karmic Guide? I mean... Karmic Guide dying returns Loaming Shaman to the battlefield, and Loaming Shaman entering returns all cards wanted in library, and so loop can continue.
3 weeks ago
You seem to have a pretty decent deck built for your budget.
3 weeks ago
mattr2013 Yes I do want that. I was unaware of this chain and I love it. I can cut Resto for Gaurdian, and I think that while a neat trick, Nightshade Peddler just isn't quite good enough anymore, so Karmic Guide can go there. Thank you for that idea.
4 weeks ago
Thrill of Possibility is quite good, very modular and draw, works great with Worldgorger Dragon , Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , Karmic Guide even a Razaketh, the Foulblooded is a great recursion target and wins the game. It's on my maybe, still evaluating what comes out for it. Hoping to get a really good evaluation of Dockside Extortionist today.
I need to get Abeyance in for sure to stop Thassa's Oracle - Protean Hulk , doesn't stop Thassa's Oracle - Demonic Consultation though sadly, so not sure. Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast should probably go in to move toward cEDH.
I'm trying to decide if I should abandon a damage line (currently combo/synergy/combat damage), since I almost exclusively win with Buried Alive + Reanimate right now, and solid secondary in Leonin Relic-Warder line and tertiary with Worldgorger Dragon and strong synergies in Razaketh, the Foulblooded (pulls the Leonin Relic-Warder combo) and Master of Cruelties .
Some cards I'm considering cutting for Abeyance (at least) and Thrill of Possibility , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Balefire Dragon , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , Mother of Runes which would make Diabolic Intent and Mausoleum Secrets worse and maybe unplayable, Steelshaper's Gift although a haste/shroud Kaalia of the Vast into a Razaketh, the Foulblooded into a win is very good, Talisman of Conviction but feel pretty low in mana sources as-is, plus Mox Diamond isn't in my printed deck (saving up store credit at Card Kingdom), Yawgmoth's Will . I did put Aven Mindcensor in for Serra Ascendant , changes the type of pressure I can put on early. May decide to take him out, usually my strategy is put in more tutors/go for win and try and win first but the Fish is just too fast and too low CMC and too hard to disrupt. Not going as far as Burnout
Hushbringer shuts down so much of my deck (and combos), it's tough to get around, then I'll have to find removal for my own creature, but maybe Diabolic Intent it for Buried Alive and then Mausoleum Secrets for Reanimate off her, but the mana cost is too much.
Lot's to think about, likely needed Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast in too, but until Jan 24th (think that's when it becomes legal to play), not in a rush. In reality all the top commanders are anyway and piggyback on similar combos.
1 month ago
Hey, nice budget version of Teysa.
Karmic Guide and Reveillark are excellent with the Aristocrat strategy. They can reanimate each other and with a sac outlet they make a dying loop with each other. This loop also lets you reanimate all the 2 or less power creatures in your graveyard with Lark. Adding an aristocrat before or reanimating one during the loop can be a win condition.
Lark triggers Teysa when it leaves the battlefield, if it left the battlefield as a result of it dying, letting you reanimate four creatures. Even without Guide Lark is worth adding because of the interaction with Teysa.
Buried Alive and Final Parting are budget tutors that can setup this interaction. Altar of Dementia is a two drop budget sac outlet that can infinite mill your opponents with Guide + Lark. Or use Dementia in combination with Guide + Lark to self-mill yourself until you mill an aristocrat to reanimate with Lark.
Good luck with your deck.