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Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever Snapcaster Mage enters the battlefield, target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may cast that card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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Snapcaster Mage Discussion
4 hours ago
Geralf's Messenger states that target opponent loses 2 life, it does not state that Geralf deals damage to a creature, it doesn't sync well with the token plan because of this, plus undying is +1/+1 not -1/-1. I would run something like Plague Belcher or to get the same effect just with -1/-1 counters on the second time round, Murderous Redcap.
As for the sideboard help. Mono-blue control tends to rely on Snapcaster Mage for recursion and as such graveyard hate is great (Something like Dryad Militant could work but Relic of Progenitus works just as well). Mono-blue generally has a problem with winning which gives you an upper hand, they aim to kind of beat down with snapcaster or Vendilion Clique half the time (or mill) so if you can out value them then you are in a good place. If counters are getting annoying Prowling Serpopard can shut down control pretty easily. Red-blue is a bit different as they have a dew different ways to win depending on the deck. The Kiln Fiend varient can be stopped with Fatal Push, same goes for Delver of Secrets Flip (in my opinion the best build with Monastery Swiftspear as well). Storm is annoying, and I don't know any card outside white that can stop storm in an instant without a huge caveat. The burn-control build means you need to go very aggressive, for this matchup have something like Tireless Tracker in the side so you can side in the threat and take out some expensive things, basically force your opponent to burn your creatures instead of you thereby wasting precious burn spells. Gifts Ungiven just kinda wins and there isn't much you can do about it. Abrupt Decay is another card you may want to include in your sideboard, it is versatile removal. Staples against control in the side for black are Duress, Collective Brutality, Liliana of the Veil (should be main for Lili).
16 hours ago
BrandonJamesCAC BlazingAbsolSorry for not replying I haven't been on the site in a long time due to personal issues. While I think it would be great to run a Jeskai list to hit Lightning Bolt and Lightning Helix, I think the current meta calls for the option of Fatal Push consistently, and this deck is also trying to be more like a slow U/W control list anyway, winning with Snapcaster Mage, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, creature lands, and occasionally some spirits. I'll definitely work on a Jeskai list some other time, but I think Esper is a good start for now.
17 hours ago
sliversftw and , that was really helpful! Thanks : D
Reading all of this I decide to build two different mill decks, one mono-blue and one black-blue, it will take some time for me to build card (actually a lot ot time : P ) but now I will have a great decks ready to be built after your comments, I really appreciate your comments!
First I will try with mono blue and Hedron Crab and would think If I put more creatures or not.
1 day ago
Just running around and asking people to look at your deck by posting on their deck without adding any constructive feedback tends to rub people the wrong way. Just forewarning you for the future.
Your deck is significantly different than the deck of mine you commented on. Luckily, I have played around with Tezzerator. I have not ever brought Sultai Tezzerator to an event, but I have dabbled with it. There are a couple different ways to play it.
Glissa, the Traitor Midraneg. She can be pretty insane with Executioner's Capsule and can generate a lot of value. She also walls off many mid range threats that you might run up against in Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Siege Rhino, Thought-Knot Seer, and Reality Smasher. The downside is that she cannot be fetched or dug for with many of the spells that Tezzerator normally plays (Ancient Stirrings, Glint-Nest Crane, Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas, Tezzeret the Seeker ). To circumvent this, it might be wise to run a more creature heavy shell and use some Traverse the Ulvenwald. Glint-Nest Crane, Vault Skirge, Scrapheap Scrounger, Treasure Mage, Trinket Mage, Snapcaster Mage, Spellskite, Wurmcoil Engine, and Hangarback Walker could all be good additions for a more creature heavy mid range shell with the option of a combo finish. Thirst for Knowledge is great in these shells.
Midrange without Glissa, the Traitor. I feel this is where you list is right now. Not saying that its a bad thing. Its is fine strategy. The traditional UB Tezzerator lists tend to be more combo-focused (which I will dive into in a second), but green gives you a lot of really solid control spells to help grind out a game. I think you have a slight problem though with your shell as it stands. You have about the amount of control as a midrange deck, but no real bombs aside from your combo. This makes you fairly dependent on lucky draws, landing an Ensnaring Bridge and dumping your hand, and/or unlucky draws for your opponent. I played an Esper list a few weeks ago, and I circumvented this by having creatures to help wall off the early game in Spellskite, Hangarback Walker, Vault Skirge, and Glint-Nest Crane while I dug for an Ensnaring Bridge (I ran 3 mainboard) so I can then safely just stall until I land my combo or ult Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas for a win. Thirst for Knowledge is also excellent in these shells.
This one feels weird, but Tezzerator can actually play a bit more aggro if you want it to. I am not sure if Sultai are the best colors for this (Grixis might be best). But Vault Skirges, Darksteel Citadels, and Spellskites with Ensoul Artifact can get scary pretty quick. The upside to Sultai for this plan would be marvelous control suite you can pack that remove things that are in your creatures' way.
Combo/Control. This is what most traditional U/B lists are doing right now. The most common strategy revolves around Whir of Invention and the silly interactions it can have with Pentad Prism. See, Whir of Invention taps artifacts to reduce it's cost and Pentad Prism does not have to tap to give you mana. You can also remove both of Pentad Prism's counters in the same turn. So a single Pentad Prism can essentially tap for 3 mana when trying to play a Whir of Invention. This allows for some pretty explosive starts where you can land an Ensnaring Bridge on turn 2 with only 1 or 2 cards in hand. Ensnaring Bridge is key in these decks as a wall to stall your opponent until you can tutor for your combo. This is where I feel you might want to direct your deck as it fells well with the idea of having no actual creatures and thus blanking your opponent's removal. The straight UB decks often struggle in game 2 as they have difficulty getting rid of Stony Silence. They often try to get around this by playing a Breeding Pool in the main and some Abrupt Decays in the side. But since you mana base will be much more geared to making sure you hit that green mana, you would be able to more reliably get that Stony Silence off the table.
What I am looking to do here for you is to give you a fair list of the sub-archetypes within Tezzerator. If you give me more of an idea of which direction you want to go, I can give much more tailored advice!
2 days ago
I'd recommend Thought Scour over Peek. While it feels bad to Thoughtseize and see a bunch of cantrips and lands, fueling delve creatures and Snapcaster Mages seems better than making Thoughtseize more likely to hit a big threat against the Grixis Shadow matchup, since in other matchups like combo decks where they keep a hand based on certain pieces, or creature decks where most of the cards are homogeneous in power level.
2 days ago
First of all, I see some people here having really stubborn opinions over the game. I mean, personally, I have an old saying, marked on my heart, who tells "play what you like and be the best at it", and I feel like some might forget that magic is a game before anything. Playing a game, by nature, hasn't a defined goal nor ideal end, "winning" is not universally seen as the same, and it's even more not seen universally as the goal. Competitiveness is not the ultimate thing to achieve, it can be to one, and be the opposite to the other.
Yes, interaction is important in playing magic for fact, and if you have no removal nor clear plan you won't go further against opponent who will, but the fact is that even if the deck you play is called agro by the majority, it doesn't define it's nature to the unique, you can't just say "it works like this and there's no way you can change it". This deck is not more aggro then what you may think, like, calm down with the unstoppable need to win, stop comparing everything to what used or is winning right now, statistic aren't mirror of reality nor definitive answer to what we should play.
What I mean is that if you really want to win each game, or go competitive like so many people want to, stompy is definitely not the deck to play, so there is no reason to not have fun in tweaking the deck as one may like. If the deck was to become competitive, it would have been WAY before because the deck is old as hell, old as modern itself. So play the deck as you like, splash color or play mono-green, use only forest or use non-basic lands, play removal or don't, do whatever you like, no one cares beside you.
Anyway, that was a small rant, I can't stand this irreparable will to make everything competitive. If you still want to hear my (personal) thoughts on the deck, here are they, but take them as they are, opinions, not facts:
- I prefer mono green, less life loss, cheaper (even if it shouldn't be a problem in a perfect world), and you can work around with Dismember and Prey Upon for removal. If you need more protection, there's lots of response even in "mono green": Blossoming Defense, Wilt-Leaf Liege for instance;
- No ramp, ensuring a better start is less interesting than thinking about a better late-game, the speed you gain doesn't make you apply more pressure nor save you after they stop your treats, I suggest late-game alternative over them if you really want to spice up your list. Otherwise, play more aggro;
- Groundbreaker is easily removed, for 3 mana it's not enough of a treat, even as a one-of, if the opponent knows how to play, he will never tap out against you, you are the danger, playing one and get it bolted means literally loosing a turn. Don't bother playing them, I know they are funny and surprising, but they are once, not twice;
- The graveyard hate plan is better than the Hooting Mandrills one, your graveyard play is far less efficient than grixis player's one, no cantrip or anything to fill it, don't count on them to kill your creature and keep them in your graveyard, they play Scavenging Ooze too. If you can't play with it properly, stop them to too, or else they will beat you on that level, don't bite more than you can chew and keep on nurfing Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage;
- I prefer having a diverse land base and skipping over Dungrove Elder, it's good with Hexproof, but against wipes it's like any other creatures, so I suggest not to bother building around it too much, that's the more subjective that I can be. It's good as a one-of, but not more than that with a different land base (I like playing rich and diverse land base, strictly subjective like I said);
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is indeed not really good, unless you run some more mana-sink like Scavenging Ooze mainboard, you should probably skip it;
- Don't overdo cards that depends on the board state, like Aspect of Hydra and Khalni Hydra, if the board doesn't cooperate, it's a dead draw, unless you want to make the deck a little bit more midrange. I wouldn't suggest you to do it, but if you still want to (I'm culprit of this), don't play too much late-game cards, still keep in mind you don't want to go in late-game, and if you do, play interactive cards, they will at least spice up your play and assure you have fun and give a interesting fight with your opponent;
- lastly, never play 4 CMC spells, seriously, you won't be able. The only 4 CMC spell you should consider is Collected Company, and personally, the value of this card is good when you run more than 28 creatures, and especially when the majority cost 2 CMC or more, which you don't, so I wouldn't suggest it. It's good, really good, but still, you can perfectly go without it.
Otherwise, have fun m8, it's one of my favorite deck and I can't keep seeing it played!
2 days ago
Sorry for blowing up the comments section here, but you'll also probably want Snapcaster Mage eventually. It's definitely a pricy addition, but it allows you to replay cards in your graveyard and can be an early game blocker. You could also put a few bounce spells in the deck that return creatures to their owner's hands. You could use this to either control the battlefield, or, you could return a snapcaster to your own hand to play it again for the effect.
3 days ago
Yea Snapcaster Mage is an amazing card, it combo's really well if you're playing Ancestral Vision. With Snapcaster Mage you can cast Ancestral Vision for free (because it's flashback cost is equal to it's cmc and that is 0) you don't need to suspend the card.