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Surveil 2, then draw two card. Notion Rain deals 2 damage 2 you. (To surveil 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
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Notion Rain Discussion
1 day ago
Dropped a Curious Obsession for a fourth copy of Siren Stormtamer, and just made the deck more streamlined by getting rid of Disinformation Campaign. It's a cool card, but a 3 mana draw 1 is way too slow when compared to Notion Rain, Discovery / Dispersal and Curious Obsession
2 days ago
After playing this deck a bit, I learned a few things. Dimir Spybug is fantastic, cheap, gets big quickly, and is hard to block. Thoughtbound Phantasm is also good. A 2/2 for U is already good, and it gets big and loses defender quickly. Nightveil Sprite is the repeatable surveil trigger that makes them both shine.
Price of Fame is okay even without a legendary target, but only due to the surveil. Thought Erasure is well-costed, effective, and a great surveil card. Sinister Sabotage and Unexplained Disappearance are both good. Creeping Chill is okay, but only really if you cast it from the graveyard for free. Notion Rain is great, and has amazing artwork IMO. Not much to say about Sinister Sabotage, it is Cancel with surveil attached. Disinformation Campaign is disappointing without surveil in it, and Enhanced Surveillance is best limited to 2 per deck.
2 days ago
Im betraying how long ive been playing magic haha. Forgot about Read the Bones, thanks for reminding me. I started playing during origins so i only barely remember that one. Read the Bones is indeed incredibly similar, though i do think Notion Rain is better, though it forces two colors on you to play. In terms of balance theory though, Read the Bones would be underpowered if it was a 4cmc instant, while at least in this set Notion Rain might be a little strong since it has lots of synergy in the set, and elimitating the vulnerability that comes with spending your mana on your turn to draw cards in a control style deck would put it over the top, despite losing 2 life. There is a reason it has to be at 3cmc sorcery speed instead of at 4cmc instant speed.
3 days ago
I believe the set design are hinting towards the additional power of instant speed surveil since there really arent many cards that do that. Cards like Notion Rain have traditionally always been instant speed. In fact, 4cmc instant speed for this would make for a much better spell. You could argue that its sorcery speed because it is 3cmc, but i think they made it 3cmc to justify sorcery speed, since the instant speed version was too strong at 4cmc. Surveil is better than scry by a mile since it allows you to potencially avoid bad cards completely as opposed to delaying them. There is also nothing like graveyard shinanigans as an added bonus when it comes to scrying, so if it was 4cmc instant speed it would be a much stronger Glimmer of Genius
3 days ago
I would cut Notion Rain to add Dive Down which will give you protection from targeted removal. Also Doom Whisperer mainboard. I like this so far. Take a look at my Thou Shall Unseal Thy Naya Soul which is a standard powerhouse!
3 days ago
At least the midrangy one is, which is what everyone is pkaying. Surveil is strong, it gives you the right option, but it costs you mana to get there. As long as your opponent has options too they can get ahead. I think that Disinformation Campaign solves those problems. It forces other decks into topdeck mode, and then forces them to play their cards or discard them the next turn. Im not a big fan of paying life for anything in the current aggro infested meta. Especially not in the current standard pool. There are way too many cards that deal direct damage. My personal opinion is that Doom Whisperer and Notion Rain are overrated to some extent. They are amazing cards that are unfortunately in the wrong standard pool. Aggro rules right now, and so decks need to build around the fact that aggro is incredibly strong and really popular right now. 20 lifepoints arent what it used to be.
3 days ago
the problem is some of the spells in this brew cannot be used to its full potencial. Unexplained Disappearance for example is very limited in its use as opposed to what it should be. normally you can use it to protect one of your creatures, but you lose so much trying to save a beefy Dimir Spybug or Thoughtbound Phantasm, and it takes so long to build them into something strong that its just not worth it. Creeping Chill has to be in the deck or else Notion Rain and Doom Whisperer will just kill you. if you dont draw Creeping Chill its very risky to cast or use the those spells against red decks since they do a good enough job taking your lifepoints without you helping them. Dimir surveil can be very ying and yang, opposites trying to balance one another out. its a difficult deck to pilot, as no decision is an easy one.
4 days ago
Argy, i totally agree with you that aggro is this decks bane. im currently playtesting a playset of Golden Demise with some promising results. i consistently kill 2 creatures whenever i play it, since most aggro creatures have 1 or 2 toughness. i also took Notion Rain out since i found that in that specific matchup every single lifepoint counts, and you really cannot afford to spend your life on both Watery Grave and Notion Rain.
im currently trying to observe whether or not my card advantage takes too much of a hit from the removal of Notion Rain. I also have this idea in the back of my head of swapping out Golden Demise for Unexplained Disappearance, and adding another copy of Etrata, the Silencer, as there is this cute play where you bounce her after you exile the creature, and before you shuffle her back into your library. Additionally Unexplained Disappearance can also be used to bounce an opponent creature to slow them down. I have a feeling going that route will weaken the deck against aggro, which isnt an option, but i may end up playtesting it anyway. just depends on how solid of a card Golden Demise is in the lineup.