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You draw 2 cards, lose 2 life, and get EE (two energy counters)
Live Fast Discussion
2 months ago
2 ways I would build SG on a budget:
Zombie token makers ( Liliana's Reaver ) + Zombie Token lords ( Eternal Skylord ) + kill spells ( Go for the Throat ); since SG makes zombie tokens you can kill an opponent's best creature, reanimate it, and it will get buffed. You will proactively make zombies for offense/defense while reactively killing problem creatures and turning them into your minions.
Strong enter-the-battlefield trigger creatures ( Plaguecrafter ) + Arcane Adaptation + kill spells ( Murder ); since SG makes a token of the exiled creature, being able to get a second trigger is great. With AA you obviously name "zombies" and now all your creatures boost SG' upkeep trigger. You are controlling opponents through your creatures entering the battlefield while, again, you are using kill spells to get rid of threatening creatures you want to turn into zombies.
2 other viable routes, though less 'zombie,' are discard via spells ( Syphon Mind ) and creatures ( Liliana's Specter ) to which you reanimate creatures your opponents' discard & mill via creatures ( Consuming Aberration ) and spells ( Mind Grind ).
You chose a lot of good zombies but I would ask whether they are good enough that you would reanimate? While SG promotes creatures, I would not forget about relevant zombie-focused spells. Ex. Apprentice Necromancer is cute but I would cut it for Cemetery Recruitment since it draws a card too or Ghoulcaller's Chant which grabs 2 back.
I would add more card advantage ( Ambition's Cost , Ancient Craving , Live Fast ) and ramp ( Mind Stone , Dimir Cluestone , Seer's Lantern ). I would shoot 10+ sources of each because nothing is less fun than not being able to cast your spells and top-decking.
The inclusion of Paradox Haze is a great idea!
4 months ago
5 months ago
White gets draw from some incidental spells like Wall of Omens , from specific requirements, like Aura/Enchantment, Equipment/Artifacts, Sram, Senior Edificer , Puresteel Paladin , Mesa Enchantress , Kor Spiritdancer , Dawn of Hope , but also has just plain hate, like Spirit of the Labyrinth and Alms Collector .
Blue obviously has just plain card draw.
Black pays life for cards Underworld Connections , Blood Scrivener , Necropotence , Phyrexian Arena , Sign in Blood , Live Fast , Read the Bones , or Cruel Bargain . You can also Sacrifice Creatures for Cards.
6 months ago
blazestudios23, thanks for the suggestions! Card draw can be tricky when trying to balance the other themes of the decks. Have you tried adding something like Smothering Abomination ? Adding cards like Altar's Reap , Bankrupt in Blood , Costly Plunder , Live Fast , and Sign in Blood are all pretty swell. If you're feeling like being generous, Seizan, Perverter of Truth is great, since he spreads the love and the cards.
Mana is solved through the use of handy trinkets like Ashnod's Altar , Phyrexian Altar , and the signets. Maybe I'm just extremely lucky, but the number of games that I've been mana-screwed has been pretty low. Palinchron could be added in for kicks, if you're hurting for mana.
My hesitation with Black Market is that it takes a while for it to get up and running, and it usually gets removed before it can contribute anything remotely useful. I might add it to the sideboard, in case I'm playing another deck with a lot of creatures dying, but I don't think its inclusion would be merited by my creatures alone. Phyrexian Tower would be absolutely great if it weren't a once-a-turn kinda thing. After I tap it, either for one mana or two, it becomes a dead card until next turn.
Neheb, the Eternal makes it a little tricky to keep my opponents' life totals in check, which is necessary to make sure Marchesa, the Black Rose 's Dethrone ability triggers. Sure, the extra mana is nice, but keeping my opponents' life totals in check until I'm ready to end the game is easier done without Afflict. While Scourge of the Throne looks like it would be an awesome card, I would only consider it to be a win condition. Again, this ties into makuing sure my opponents' life totals aren't so low that I wouldn't be able to trigger Marchesa, the Black Rose 's Dethrone, which the deck is based around.
Thanks so much for your suggestions! You've definitely given me more options to consider!
11 months ago
For the sake of saving words I'm just going to list my cuts and my adds. Then feel free to ask any questions.
Cuts: Esper Panorama, Haunted Fengraf, Rupture Spire, Transguild Promenade, Doom Blade, Invoke the Divine, Renewed Faith, Revitalize, Snuff Out, Undying Evil, Angelic Edict, Solemn Offering, Syphon Mind, Urborg Uprising, Soul Link, Guardian of the Guildpact, Kor Cartographer, Commander's Sphere, Orzhov Cluestone, Seer's Lantern, Vampire Envoy, Unhallowed Pact, Painful Lesson, Live Fast, Wayfarer's Bauble, Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Adds: Forsaken Sanctuary, Polluted Mire, Drifting Meadow, Whispersilk Cloak, Thorn of the Black Rose, Palace Sentinels, Chill to the Bone, Eyeblight's Ending, Rend Flesh, Merciless Resolve, Disturbed Burial, Grim Harvest, Afterlife, Forsake the Worldly, Journey to Nowhere, Fountain of Youth, Luxa River Shrine, Marble Chalice, Pious Kitsune, Stone Haven Medic, Tanglebloom, Fellwar Stone, Prismatic Lens, Gold Myr, Leaden Myr, Guardian Idol
1 year ago
ancientskull Live Fast is literally EXACTLY what I was looking for for my sideboard, and maybe eventually mainboard. Thank you! I didn’t know it existed and I somehow didn’t pick it up going through Gatherer. The traps are 1 mana less though, and they let me sac a creature, so I do like having it. Though as you said, I have some sac outlets already and I have things that use the Energy the card gives. Thank you for the nice words and suggestion.
1 year ago
I love to see people put together these combos! It's always fun when things go well.
In relation to the fact that you're running a couple of energy creatures to get sacrifice value: Have you considered going down a couple of Altar's Reap for a couple Live Fast? They give you cards, at a fairly low life cost, and also a couple of energy to spawn another Thopter. Just a thought, but since you already have some good sac outlets, I figure they may be a good replacement for the Reaps.
Anyways, I love the build! +1!
1 year ago
As for Tomb Robber I don't understand how that is a sac outlet, but Tomb Robber is a nice way to pitch extra lands, or copies of our legendary cards, or even Oathsworn Vampire. That is actually worth trying possibly in Live Fast place.
As for Dead Man's Chest That is an interesting one as well that would need some testing. I'm about to change around some of the cards with your idea's and see how it looks.
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