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Wheel of Fortune
Each player discards his or her hand and draws seven cards.
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Wheel of Fortune Discussion
15 hours ago
Overall, I like the deck. Blood Baron of Vizkopa is one card you can take out. It seems a bit situational and in EDH it's unlikely that it will have the buff for long, if at all. Fate Forgotten is just a worse Forsake the Worldly, so that's an easy replacement. One problem I see in most first-time EDH lists is that people think "Oh, it's EDH so I can just shovel high manacost cards in the deck like Iv'e never heard of a curve!" You, thankfully, did not make that mistake. One thing I would add is more card draw. You could try Land Tax and Scroll Rack, or Wheel of Fortune but that's not very budget. Ambition's Cost and Ancient Craving are budget alternatives that work, and so are EDH staples Phyrexian Arena and Underworld Connections. Magus of the Wheel and Reforge the Soul are budget options for the wheel. To fit these in, try taking out Kindred Boon. Six mana to make one thing indestructible is not so good.
1 day ago
Hey there Daedalus! I decided to increase my budget slightly, from $250 to $290. However, as a result, the overall cuts I had to make were very minimal! Luckily, I was able to find some good deals on ebay and tcgplayer haha. Anyway, here is how my list currently stands when compared to yours:
I've also cut some of the non-basic lands you were running in favor of more basics (mostly for budget reasons + Ruination synergy). I'd really like to hear your thoughts on these changes and make any adjustments as necessary based on your response. I am considering swapping Coldsteel Heart for, say, Mind Stone or Worn Powerstone, but I thought Coldsteel seemed better for the fixing. Dowsing Dagger seems pretty sweet, especially when I can combo it with MLD. It would be an epic play to destroy all lands, then transform the dagger afterwards. I'm just curious as to whether I should include a Mind Stone or Worn Powerstone (or other rock) in its place.
Thank you so much for your time reading this! My decklist is below in case you would prefer to see it in that layout. :)
Oh, and I appreciate the warning about the dangers of running MLD. However, my playgroup is very understanding and open to all strategies, so I know they won't be salty. Also, one of my friends plays a Kess Extra Turns deck, and the other plays a Baral deck filled to the brim with counterspells... so as far as I'm concerned, the MLD is justified to cleanse them of their sin :)
Overall, I am super excited that I was able to build what seems to be a pretty close version of your deck on a sub-$300 budget. I can't wait to purify my next EDH game! :) Thanks again for your help, I appreciate it so much.
1 day ago
2 days ago
Noticed you have Lifelink, like Basilisk Collar/Loxodon Warhammer/Ajani, Mentor of Heroes/Etc. Why no Felidar Sovereign do you find you dont get over that 40 life barrier? Just interested, I was thinking of running him as an alternate-win con.
Does Godsend do enough work for it's High CMC? I originally thought about it, but it doesn't stop Commanders because they never get exiled by it, and Commander as it is, unless you run up against a heavy unburial deck does it do much else?
How have you found Hungry Lynx, I keep looking at him and thinking nope, when rats die awesome, but what if I load up my opponents with deathtouch rates, they remove the Hungry Lynx now I'm walking my cats into 1/1 deathtouch that I provided them, that sucks.
Oreskos Explorer being green and ramping, you usually have more lands than opponents? Is it worth the risk of not drawing him turn 1-4 where he might be viable?
Suprised to see Sylvan Reclamation, with so much artifact/enchantment control, Aura Shards, Qasali Slingers, Return to Dust etc, this one is HIGH CMC, but I'm guessing you just Cycle it and move on for the CMC2, and if you need it, then you have it?
I noticed ZendikariWol posted about Howling Mine and Alms Collector and Rites of Flourishing, I haven't posted on the community, but my gut tells me that doesn't work. Drawing an "additional" card, is not the same as "would draw two or more". I stand to be corrected but, Alms Collector with check on the turn draw, only 1 ok nothing, check on resolving the Howling Mine triggered ability, only 1 ok nothing, same for Rites of Flourishing. A Wheel of Fortune or Blue Sun's Zenith for sure there he makes his mark, but I think ZendikariWol assessment is incorrect.
I've had success with Rhonas the Indomitable, he is 5/5 Indestructible/Deathtouch for CMC3 and can always attack with ANY cat on the board. Although, he is not a Cat, he can give a Cat trample if it's blocked.
No Sylvan Library?
2 days ago
Why is Zealous Conscripts in the deck?
I am wary of playing Time Spiral in a semi competitive to competitive environment in all but storm decks. Turn one or two effects like Timetwister and Wheel of Fortune can be great. The six mana cost precludes this for us in a vast majority of games. Our converted mana cost is high enough that it is more probable that our opponents have unloaded their hands than we have. Rhystic Study is a card you are not playing that would allow you to replace draw with draw. It gives an early turn play that either draws us cards, forces our opponents to use enchantment removal on a card not named foodchain or is a quasi stax effect.
3 days ago
First off, I am in love with this deck! Very well done; it seems like a work of art. I really want to build this deck, but I am constraining myself to a ~$250 budget. I'd still like it to be as competitive as possible for that pricepoint, although I acknowledge that I'll have to make sacrifices until I can acquire some of the better cards. I am thinking that the best way for me to keep it competitive at this lower price point is to run the MLD package (unless you think it would be stronger without it). I would be very grateful for any insight you could offer.
1) Based on your response to someone else, you recommended removing Aggravated Assault and Argentum Armor for Ruination and Cataclysm. You also recommended removing Gift of Immortality for Armageddon, but to be honest, I am having such a hard time making that cut because of all the synergy that Gift has with the creatures in this deck. Is that really the best cut to make room for it?
2) I've made the following budget changes to your list to fit within my constraints, but I would love to hear your feedback about my changes and if I ended up going off the rails and altering it too much. I will provide a link to my list below, but the summary of changes I made are as follows:
I know some of those inclusions might seem a bit janky. My thought process was that, since Land Tax and Scroll Rack are a draw engine, I would replace them with Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory, which also draw. In place of the 3 mana rocks I cut, I swapped them with Mind Stone, Star Compass, and Worn Powerstone. Finally, I substituted Memory Jar with Reforge the Soul, which has a similar wheel effect for the same cmc (or less with miracle), and I substituted Wheel of Fortune with Chandra Ablaze (mini wheel that will probably get value from forcing opponents to discard larger hands and draw to 3). I substituted the sword of fire and ice with the scythe, because that sword generates value, which the scythe seems to come the closest to replicating for a cheaper price (the only difference being that I get to summon the blocking creature instead of drawing a card and pinging something for 2).
Do these sound like reasonable changes to preserve the spirit of the deck? If you have other suggestions, I am definitely open to hearing them.
My decklist: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/avacyn-the-purifier-budget/
3 days ago
I think you need to add a card. Your card count is 100 but it says you have two Wheel of Fortunes.
5 days ago
Most of the red flags came up with the mana base, including very slow rocks. Staff of Nin is too slow to be relevant in cEDH. Path to Exile is never played in cEDH. Besides this, I'm not too sure how to improve the creatures and other spells of the deck because this type of deck isn't seen in cEDH.