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Wheel of Fortune
Each player discards his or her hand and draws seven cards.
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Wheel of Fortune Discussion
12 hours ago
TheBloopKing - I went over Beatdown in the win-cons!
starsky - Yo thanks man! I think every deck with the right combination of colors, ramp, card draw, interaction, and win-conditions can win against any other deck, or at least compete!
TheBloopKing - Plenty of the cards you mentioned are not competitive. The idea behind card draw isn't I want cards in my hand, it is I want answers to the board, or a way to win (obviously it depends on the situation and deck's strategy, but that is besides the point). If I go over many of the mentioned card Mentor of the Meek/Alms Collector work in many a stax builds, but Wall of Omens, Aura Blast, and PureSteel Paladin are much too weak to see play, white would rather a Spirit of the Labyrinth than them.
Harmonize is too slow, Explore isn't powerful enough outside of Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Soul's Majesty leads to blowouts where you have a suited up 16/16 commander or whatever, and it gets Swords to Plowsharesed and you lose the creature and the 5 mana and card on Soul's Majesty, Primordial Sage/Soul of the Harvest effects are good in Animar, Soul of Elements, but that's about it.
Red should generally only use tutors like Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and wheels like Wheel of Fortune or Reforge the Soul. Bad cantrips like Expedite aren't powerful outside of a Zada, Hedron Grinder deck or something, most of those draw/discard effects are sub-par anyway. Scroll Rack, Sensei's Divining Top and other good colorless options are all they need.
Black has Ad Nauseam and every tutor they need to find it. Necropotence, Night's Whisper, and call it a day. Phyrexian Arena is pretty bad in comparison to Dark Confidant, and Underworld Connections is going to get you Strip Mined, and is just generally worse than the arena. Damnable Pact just isn't good, if you have enough mana to make it better than Ad Nauseam, run Torment of Hailfire and win the game.
Your multicolored options are pretty bad, if you are in abzan use black draw, blue draw is insane as is and so never needs Edric, Spymaster of Trest, as it gives opponents card draw, which is almost the worst thing to do. Spiteful Visions and Fevered Visions are for Nekusar, the Mindrazer and no one else, it tosses out cards like Oprah, and will stop you from winning any game you are trying to win.
Staff of Nin and Mind's Eye are generally too slow, even for colorless decks, and Howling Mine and Horn of Greed fall into the Oprah level of bad cards. They will kill you faster than anything else, unless you are Tatyova, Benthic Druid in which case I could argue for Howling Mine.
Outside of Blue or Black, use tutors in your color, Sensei's Divining Top, and Scroll Rack, tutors are the best way not to need card draw, but trying to run sub-par replacements for card draw never is the answer, it just makes your deck slow and clunky. Trust me, I have tried and failed.
1 day ago
I would add more rocks (Chrome Mox and Fellwar Stone), more wheel effects (Wheel of Fortune, Magus of the Wheel) and sone more tutors (Vampiric Tutor, Mystical Tutor, Personal Tutor). You already have Hive Mind in the deck so might as well add Pact of Negation.
I know you said you were keeping the price low but I think the following additions, with the exception of Wheel of Fortune will still keep it well below $1000.
5 days ago
Winterblast: Thank you for the comment.
I'm not sure how much High Tide will help here, given that I play a large number of non-basics without Island typing, and I'm not running any infinite combos that rely on it. It's cute with the two untappers, I suppose, but I'm not willing to rely on that synergy.
Murder of Crows is much better than it looks, to be honest - it gives me advantage from board wipes (which normally set me back pretty hard), allows me to draw into interaction when facing GY-based decks such as Meren, etc. It's also an unusual card to see in Locust God decks, which means my opponents often neglect to counter it if I have an Altar out.
Snap over Snapback is a fair argument - Snapback is in there to terminate the Kindred Discovery combo at instant speed with no mana held up, if the Simian Spirit Guide into Firestorm approach fails. Snap doesn't work as well for that role, but it does work better as a bounce before a wheel... I suppose I could run both; Snapback has performed well but I'd be happy to have another copy.
Burning Inquiry seems like a VERY risky idea here; the three extra locusts are not worth the chances of dumping a critical combo piece. I DEFINITELY can't afford the $$$ cost of Candelabra of Tawnos, haha, so that's a strong "no" from me. Merchant Scroll could be passable, I suppose, but none of my blue instants are really critical to the game-plan other than Dramatic Reversal, and Muddle the Mixture might be better for finding that (a card I've intended to add for a while).
Speaking of counterspells, Muddle the Mixture is the primary one I want to add, because it can grab Dramatic Reversal/Grim Monolith/Isochron Scepter (and, if I need counterspells in a pinch, can be Sceptered itself).
I could run Flusterstorm (I have one right here), but I find it's a little... situational, since this deck runs in a lot of different metas (some of which are less spell-based than others). I appreciate that Mindbreak Trap often closes out a game by exile-countering Food Chain, it acts in a similar role against Storm, and it's a very nice "gotcha!" against decks that act when I'm tapped out. Still, it's the only offensive counterspell in a deck that usually uses its counterspells defensively.
Negate or Swan Song are both definitely things I could/probably should run, but as always, slots are hard to come by. I'm not sure what you mean by "high-cost or niche interaction"; the only things that really seem to fit that mold are Recurring Insight, Mystic Confluence, or Mindbreak Trap. Mystic could get the axe, perhaps, but the amount of utility and flexibility the card gives me is unreal.
And on the topic of Day's Undoing - I agree that the card is really bad in the late-game, but there are many hands where I simply vomit out all of my cheap spells and mana rocks from my hand, and I am left with nothing to do. While obviously Timetwister/Wheel of Fortune are better in this role, having a third copy of that effect is nothing to sneeze at when I can use it to draw back into good cards from a bad hand (and often screw with opponents' hand shaping as well). If I replace this with something, I want it to be another spell that can refill an empty/bad hand - maybe Fact or Fiction?
Thank you for your thoughts.
1 week ago
consuming aberation is good, but I think there are better cards that would synergize more. The goal is to deal people damage from drawing, not mill and swing with a huge creature. Probably take out Fog Bank because you already have Guard Gomazoa. Master of the Feast could backfire if someone removes Nekusar, then you'll just be giving opponents free cards. Same deal with Howling Mine, Dictate of Kruphix, and Forced Fruition. Better to stick to reliable spells that you can control in my opinion, BUT!! It's good to keep a couple in if you're able to protect Nekusar, especially if you keep in other creatures and enchantments that do the same thing as Nekusar. Just something to think about. Grafted Exoskeleton is more reliable than Phyresis. Megrim is just a worse version of Liliana's Caress and Raiders' Wake. I doubt anyone is going to fall for Minds Aglow unless you can manage to flash in something that screws them, but if you have enough mana you can just do it yourself and screw everyone anyway. Wheel of Fortune would be great, but it is a bit expensive.
2 weeks ago
Target Minotaur is banned
Abandon Hope isn't that good - hurts you more than opponent
Bend or Break hurts you as well - sure you want to destroy your own lands?
Replace Hijack with Insurrection
Onyx Goblet isn't good enough (1 damage is lame)
Nice job with Whip of Erebos
Replace Accelerate with Fervor
Check out Akroma's Memorial
I like Dark Deal - also put in Reforge the Soul and Wheel of Fortune
Check out cards like Door of Destinies, Obelisk of Urd, Vanquisher's Banner, etc
Add Rogue's Passage
You're playing black, find some cards to bring back all cards from your graveyard (like Rise of the Dark Realms)
Add the disk, as well as some anti board wipe cards
You need some double strike and multiple combat phases! Blood Mist and Savage Beating are some examples, there are better ones out there though
Overall good job though, looking like a mean deck
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
In the same vein, Mirari's Wake really helps to ramp up, both your mana base and your creatures.
Herald's Horn lowers the cost of your Slivers and provides repeatable draw. Very useful.
Phyrexian Reclamation is a repeatable way to return cards from your graveyard.
Paradox Engine gives you essentially an unlimited combo with Sliver Overlord, letting you put all of the Slivers in your entire library into play if you've got Manaweft Sliver/Gemhide Sliver/Cryptolith Rite in play. Even if you don't have the combo pieces in play, it can provide a ton of value.
I too play a Sliver EDH deck, so these are some suggestions that I've learned from experience can be rather powerful.