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Whenever Liliana's Reaver deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card and you put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped.
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Liliana's Reaver Discussion
4 hours ago
Liliana's Reaver and Woodland Bellower are pretty questionable. Reaver is too squishy for 4 mana and bellower is too much mana for the format. Id suggest Thrun, the Last Troll or Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet. Bloodgift Demon is a decent card but again, too high of mana cost. Phyrexian Arena is an alternative.
1 week ago
Nice deck construction! Giving poeple draw mitigate the pain you then make them feel with the discards hehehe... +1 Also like the Bloodchief Ascension + Mindcrank combo, infinite, but gives your playmate a chance.
Well, perhaps the additon of a silly Liliana's Reaver might help you bring a bit more pressure, I personaly prefer it to Hypnotic Specter ; it dosn't fly and cost one more, but the fact that it both makes your opponent discard a card and gets you a zombie often makes them loose a creature to avoid it.
Perhaps a Howling Mine would help you here ; you diminish your own lost while taking advantage politically of the gains of others...
Totaly optional, but since you run a lot of basic lands , Drowned Catacomb and Dragonskull Summit could help you fix you many a little. They're not a costly as fecth or shock lands, so thats a option.
Have a great day/night sir.
2 weeks ago
Hey Coward_Token, maybe I can say something to the "mill" Stuff: I played lots of game and run quite the milling operation. A Few games I even made 2/3 of 4 guys decks into the GY. If you play with friends and you want to keep it that way I wouldnt hit the mill road too hard. I get tons of hate for Dreamborn Muse and with 4 guys you cant take that much advantage of the shitload of milled cards - so everybody is just pissed. As for Curse of Disturbance I really dislike it because it doenst give me full advantage. In my deck I run Liliana's Reaver and he performs quite nice!
3 weeks ago
Like how you've broken down the commander and taken advantage of its different aspects for the sake of versatility. Here's my thoughts, feel entirely free to disregard them:
Since you're playing black, how do you feel about adding some discard like e.g. Siren of the Silent Song (Inspired zombie with built-in evasion and a little bit of everything), (Liliana's Reaver) (deathtouch on block, extra token without block) and/or (Cabal Interrogator( (some synergy with Training Grounds but I dunno if it's worth it with multiple opponents)? (And obviously Waste Not if you do end up getting a lot.) Or are the million(five) counterspells already enough?
(Speaking of counterspells: Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here but wouldn't the all-powerful Mana Drain be worth including, especially with its recent reprint in Iconic Masters which will hopefully make it slightly less expensive? (((Also, the slightly greater color reliability of Negate feels better than the slight damage from Countersquall, but that's just me being extra picky.))))
That's all, keep it up
1 month ago
1 month ago
Far out Mandalorian! Thank you so much! This is a huge help, I was struggling but with this i should be able to get this deck flowing magnificently. I was kind of just expecting a sentence or two of advice and a few card recommendations but you really put in to help me get this deck running. Cheers!
Some of the cards you mentioned I already have (such as Mutilate, Grey Merchant of Asphodel, Duress, and Nightmares pouring out of my ears) but I dis-included them here just because I was using this list to decide what cards to buy.
Some others like Liliana's Caress, Hymn to Tourach, and Shrieking Affliction (I do have one of these but wanted more), I kept out either because the seller didn't have them or I left out to cut costs a bit. (Liliana's Caress is $8 ea! Why I went for Raiders' Wake instead, though it's CMC is higher)
And then there's those cards like Zombie Infestation, The Rack, Waste Not (far out that card is good) and Faith of the Devoted that I somehow never found when researching discard cards and now I feel I must hunt down these cards right away.
I also now totally see what you mean with Brain in a Jar, Tempt with Immortality, and Blood Tribute. Especially Tempt with Immortality I never even realised I was giving their discards back facepalm. Though I've already ordered those cards they'll fit fine in other decks I own so no issue being rid of them.
I was also wondering what's your opinion on adding some cards I already own such as Consume the Meek, Pestilence Demon (Mono-black can work wonders with him, tho it can also obviously be a detriment), Liliana's Reaver, Jar of Eyeballs, Wight of Precinct Six, and Crypt Incursion. Although Crypt Incursion could result in lofty amount of life, it also kind of ruins the synergy of cards like Guiltfeeder but in the other hand denies possibilities of opponent's getting their cards back and could even make Tempt with Immortality more viable.
Another thing I was worried about was that besides Creeping Dread I don't have much consistent opponent discard sources. I did originally consider Cao Cao, Lord of Wei but my seller didn't have it and I do prefer to avoid spending $5 on one card (there are exceptions of course). Other than that I just thought of adding more discard spells like more Mind Shatters, and now, adding a few Unnerves. I do own heaps of Mind Rots but they down seem very CMC efficient. Also adding some of these cards (which I plan to do) will return my issue of deck size. What do you think I could replace? What's worth keeping? What doesn't contribute enough to warrant keeping?
Sorry I feel like I almost just wrote an essay question for you to answer, but I feel as though you probably enjoy this stuff ;P
Again, thanks soo much for your assistance, this is the first deck I've made that I'm trying to make perfect so I really appreciate the help in getting it there. Cheers!!
1 month ago
Liliana's Reaver is good and fits with the liliana theme.
1 month ago
Hmmm... how about x2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to ramp into an Army of the Damned? Honestly you could drop 2 swamps and 1 other thing. Also from my experience, Curse of Shallow Graves has been amazing. I run 4 in my old zombie deck and it did some serious work with Attrition on the field. I also run Liliana's Reaver and theres good synergy with Attrition there too (Gravecrawler and Attrition is good too).
As for Stromgald Crusader, he could actually be a good finisher for your deck if you run Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. Give him flying and then just jump over your opponent's stuff and hit for a bunch because you've got all that sweet devotion mana.