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At the beginning of the end step, if no creatures are on the battlefield, sacrifice Pestilence.
: Pestilence deals 1 damage to each creature and each player.
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1 week ago
You have to choose the creature before the blockers are decleared, so having evasive creatures with haste will work better than trample, and maybe use creatures that if arent blocked will have some kind of effect or the other way araund.
and probably add mass remuval and normal remuval.
sorry if all the cards i listed are black, im just more familiar with it.
3 weeks ago
I second the use of Pyrohemia and Pestilence. Good cards for getting that damage in for the turn. Another creature I like in black is Archfiend of Depravity. I don't know how you do on card draw, but you seem to be running a little light on it. You might consider Necropotence, and cards like Greed work well. Skullclamp is also solid.
I like seeing lists for this commander; looks like fun. I hope this helps.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Since this deck plays so few creatures, I feel like Lethal Vapors can be a good inclusion.
3 weeks ago
First I want to stress that there is no universally "correct" stax deck - the best deck for my meta is likely TOTALLY different than the best deck for yours. My list may serve as a good starting point, but everyone will need to tune things individually for their own games!
At this point there is little to no creature aggro in my meta (which now consists of T1/T2 CEDH decks). I suspect this is true for many other CEDH metas, as creature aggro is generally not viable at the strongest of tables (it is possible to kill players with this strategy, but often difficult to actually win the game entirely). As a result, my answer to the question of, "How do you deal with low-to-the-ground token/aggro decks?" is simply, "I don't have to." Of course, some sweepers are still extremely useful for destroying generals, utility creatures, mana dorks, etc, so you'll see a few in my list (Toxic Deluge, Yahenni's Expertise)... BUT, I don't have to always be prepared to stop a token horde on T4... it's simply not an issue I need to deal with.
Of course, my experience is unique and totally different than many metas! If your opponents have more combat-focused decks, swap in tools to deal with them. Again, my deck is a good general starting point, but will need lots of tuning for any particular meta. You could consider repeatable sweepers like Pestilence/Crypt Rats, one-timers like Shrivel/Drown in Sorrow/Infest, more exotic workarounds like Living Death (these cards vary in competitive viability, but you get the picture)... what about Archfiend of Depravity? It's not a comp-viable card but if you are constantly facing down token swarm, it seems pretty darn good.
Note that if your opponents are more devoted to creature combat, that means they're LESS devoted to the things MY particular build is designed to stop - you may find that the slots for Trinisphere and Damping Sphere are better filled with creature removal; if that's true, then it's a change you should make!
Your more specific questions:
- Grim Flayer - He is basically a better Sensei's Divining Top in this deck. Being able to plow through your topdeck if you don't like your options is extremely useful when our goal is to stall out the game (Top is much worse - it costs you mana and you're stuck with what you see). The fact he beats and blocks well is nice, but he is played for the card sifting.
- Midnight Reaper - In some respects this is actually a BETTER Grim Haruspex - because it draws cards for itself when it dies (Grim Haruspex excludes itself). The life loss is unfortunate but the tradeoff for an extra card and more versatility (being OK with it dying) is the benefit here. However, remember that in more comp games, this isn't drawing us 30 cards, it's drawing like 2-4 (so the extra card off itself, bumping that number to 3-5, is actually a big deal). In more casual games with many more creatures on the battlefield and more draw triggers it's probably better to go with Haruspex to save yourself the life loss.
- Necropotence - I cut it as an experiment to see how the deck ran without it. Currently undecided on whether I will put it back. Obviously Necropotence is a card advantage powerhouse, but it's just awkward to actually play - the colors are rough to hit early on, and in an early hand, its timing often conflicts with the stax or interaction you need to be playing.
- Animate Dead and Regrowth - Currently testing these out to see if they help the deck's flexibility. Obviously, a lot of the recursion engine relies on Meren - and if there isn't an opening to play her or she dies, it can really create issues. This give us alternatives for making sure the effects in our graveyard remain accessible.
- Tangle Wire - Just play this ASAP. The earlier it hits, the harder it hits, and waiting until after Meren is almost surely too late. Remember, Tangle Wire is inherently asymmetric (taps the table for 4-3-2-1 and taps us for only 3-2-1-0 [or 2-1-0-0 once you consider you can tap Tangle Wire itself]). Additionally, we already play tons of mana dorks and mana rocks, so we are usually the least affected by the tap effect in the first place. If Tangle Wire hits too late, opponents have enough permanents to pay for it and can play around it - but a VERY early Tangle Wire (pre-Meren) can Time Walk the entire rest of the table 1-2 times, while we can often still play around it (due to so many dorks/rocks and asymmetric tap tax) and leap far ahead.
1 month ago
Here are some things I think would make the deck better:
I know they are not Zombies, but I would add Crypt Rats and Dimir House Guard to the deck. The Rats cost less than Evincar's Justice and can be grabbed out of your graveyard and the Guard is a sac outlet as well as a tutor for Pestilence and some of your Zombies. They will allow your deck to boardwipe more consistently.
Might consider a couple more draw cards.
I would go for less tap lands, and add Path of Ancestry.
1 month ago
Auramancer mainly fetches Auras. I went through your list again and realised you don't run them at all, so we can ignore this suggestion.
In EDH, I'd play redundant cards if the effects are important, so u may not cut the Annex.
I'd cut the following:
Subversion - It's a 5 drop, and at best gains you 3 life each turn. It's worst in 1 v 1 situations.
Festering Evil - Same reasons as above. 5 drops should have a bigger impact on the game imho. I'd run Pestilence if I needed the damage effect, it costs 1 mana less and you have to wait till your upkeep for it to trigger.
Screams of the Damned - Same reasons as above.
Drana's Emissary - 1 life loss/gain won't get you very far, esp when we start with 40 HP in EDH.
Myojin of Night's Reach - It's effect us powerful but it's also an 8 drop. By the time you cast him, chances are, most of our opponents would have emptied their hands and have very few cards in their hands by then.
I've a Orzhov deck, though it's not the same concept as yours, perhaps you can draw some inspirations from it too. Here's the deck link.
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2 months ago
Pestilence you should look into as a way to control the board.