Primordial Sage

Primordial Sage

Creature — Spirit

Whenever you cast a creature spell, you may draw a card.

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Set Rarity
Jumpstart (JMP) Rare
Commander Anthology (CM1) Rare
Commander 2014 (C14) Rare
Ravnica: City of Guilds (RAV) Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Modern Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Historic Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Limited Legal
Arena Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Unformat Legal

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Primordial Sage Discussion

dingusdingo on Pattern Recognition #170 - Kobolds

2 weeks ago

Altar of the Brood + Cloudstone Curio + Crimson Kobolds + Crimson Kobolds for a combo kill with just 4 cards and mana.

Does incredible work with Mana Echoes, pair with any X spell.

Does incredible work with Paradoxical Outcome, especially with storm cards or Aetherflux Reservoir

Free cantrips with Glimpse of Nature, fantastic with multiples. This was the basis of a legacy deck, here's a link https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/508428#paper It is a deprecated deck, but it is probably 1 or 2 printings from a spicy return, and should be looked at in any serious discussion of kobolds

Also see Beast Whisperer, Primordial Sage, and Soul of the Harvest.

Huge ramp with Gaea's Cradle

Wombo combo with Essence of the Wild for beatdowns

Can even go for casual beatdowns with Tribal Unity or Coat of Arms or Beastmaster Ascension.

Just because you can't think outside the box doesn't mean they are terrible cards. It took me five minutes to find these combos and this deck, probably less time than it took to write your article.

Kher Keep is not a bad card. Instant speed token creation has lots of uses, especially blocking in EDH. Being on a land means it is extremely hard to interact with. Off the top if my head, it can be useful for creatures in a Polymorph style deck, or any deck that doesn't want to slot creature cards in the deck.

Abzkaban on Yeva Draw-Grow

2 weeks ago

Inkmoth

I mean there is Soul of the Harvest and Primordial Sage which do the same as Beast Whisperer, but the 2 extra mana may be what’s holding them back.

bobpuluchi on Chulane & counting

4 weeks ago

Chulane is an insanely strong commander, and there are certainly ways to build this deck to be more competitive even on a budget. That being said it seems to me you would like a fun and casual +1/+1 themed deck that tries to win with Simic Ascendancy. Personally I think that sounds like a lot of fun and you should definitely build around it.

The first place I would start with the deck is using Tomer's suggestions from MTGGoldfish for building Commander decks. The bullet points are copied from one of his articles. Tomer explains these bullet points to be more like guidelines rather than strict rules you have to follow. Then the rest of the deck is filled with whatever you want to add.

  • 50 mana; lands and ramp, usually a 37–13 split
  • 10 sources of "card advantage;" I use this term loosely but am mostly looking for card draw or any spell that nets me 2+ non-land cards in hand / directly into play
  • 6 targeted removal; split between creature / artifact / enchantment removal
  • 3 board wipes; creature-light decks might want one more, creature-heavy decks might want one less
  • 2 recursion
  • 2 flexible tutors
  • 1 graveyard hate; to shut down powerful graveyard recursion that everyone runs
  • 1 surprise "I Win" card; something that can win games the turn you cast it without too much setup

So maybe more what you may have been looking for in your original question is what cards to add? Cards like Whitemane Lion, Shrieking Drake, Beast Whisperer, Primordial Sage, and cheap mana dork creatures work well with what Chulane wants to do. But as far as Simic Ascendancy and +1/+1 counters, some cards I'd consider are Managorger Hydra, Loyal Guardian, Forgotten Ancient, Herald of Secret Streams, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Inspiring Call.

https://edhrec.com/themes/p1-p1-counters is also a good resource. For the deck you're building I'd look at other commander decks that care about +1/+1 counters and proliferate like Ezuri, Claw of Progress and Ghave, Guru of Spores

I think Simic Ascendancy with Chulane is a really cool idea. Have fun deckbuilding!

SynergyBuild on Ashaya is REAALLLLLY good

1 month ago

Ashaya, Soul of the Wild is better than you think. I promise you, it's better.

You think a 5 mana creature variant of mono-green Cryptolith Rite that is massive is all? Nope.

First off it's bigger than massive, like, a lot bigger. It is monstrous in many decks. Ever seen a lot of lands and creatures out? I see a 40/40 Ashaya. I wonder if Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Soul's Majesty, Rishkar's Expertise, Traverse the Outlands, or Overwhelming Stampede would be good?

But even in a deck where it isn't that big, Ashaya is REAALLLLLLY good.

Worried about Cyclonic Rift, not on your creatures! Grasp of Fate, Abrupt Decay, Utter End, Anguished Unmaking, Oblivion Ring, etc. all are useless against it.

Not to mention... combos. Oh yeah, so... Quirion Ranger is an interesting card. It lets you bounce a forest to untap a creature.

Idk, what can a creature that's untapped do with Ashaya, Soul of the Wild? Oh, tap for mana. I wonder what's a forest that we can bounce? Oh, Quirion Ranger.

Yep, just those two go infinite together, only infinite casts, as you net even, but a Glimpse of Nature, Beast Whisperer, Primordial Sage, or Soul of the Harvest and you'll be just fine. Remember, it's a land that keeps entering, landfall infinitely, with a Lotus Cobra, Tireless Tracker, or similar, and you'll be well on your way to an easy win.

Have a Priest of Titania? Now you have infinite mana.

(Scryb Ranger can do similarly, another super easy combo)

Arbor Elf... yep, infinite untaps of itself, one Krosan Restorer and a medium graveyard, one Ley Weaver, or one Argothian Elder and you have infinite untaps and mana.

Of course, there is more, Nissa, Who Shakes the World, Timber Protector, etc.

Also, remember you can run Oblivion Stone, and all the rest too.

That's a lot of damage. Not to mention:

  1. This card can be both a powerful commander or mana ramp/combo engine in decks.

  2. Nissa, Who Shakes the World, Nissa, Worldwaker, etc. affect forests, and this is easily one of the best ways to get a ton of forests.

  3. Titania, Steward of Argoth and other lands -> creatures style effects (think Rampaging Baloth) allow you to get a to get a ton of value from your creatures, reusing them for 4/4s and 5/3s.

  4. Liege of the Tangle. Easy, clean reason why this card is hilariously fun!

  5. Howl of the Night Pack, Boundless Realms, etc. There are a million of these combos, literally go look. I'm not even trying.

  6. You can Leyline of Abundance for more value too, didn't mention that. Was gonna click start a new thread and just thought of it. Gonna click it now before I think of ten more!

PhotogenicParasympathetic on Top 10 green cards at …

2 months ago

ALright. Last one, Primordial Sage. Draw foreverrrrr.

Kiran_M on Chulane Bouncer of Tales

2 months ago

I have built a Chulane deck myself (it's currently my premier EDH deck), and I can say that your deck looks pretty good. However, I would prioritize getting untapped lands in your mana base over any kind of better tapland (with the exception of Field of the Dead, which I also run) because they allow you to keep going and chaining stuff together with Chulane. I would consider some draw-thinning effects such as Abundance, Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar, etc. to smooth your draws with Chulane. Finally, I would recommend Momir Vig, Simic Visionary, as he is one of the stars of my deck, functioning as both card advantage and a repeatable tutor if you have enough green creatures. Oh, and maybe also run more things that copy Chulane's effect such as Primordial Sage, The Great Henge, and Zendikar Resurgent (the last two also ramp you).

Good luck!

P.S. Here's my list if you want to take a peek; I've been meaning to do custom categories but haven't gotten around to it: Chulane Creatures

Karolina on "MASS HYSTERIA! (or) IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS!"

4 months ago

Nice! I hadn't thought of changelings! Mirror Entity is nuts, especially with Regal Caracal giving the commander lifelink. BOOM: tap for 8 damage and 16 life lol

I playtested it a few times and I think it may run out of gas way too quickly? Can't think of a ton of good card draw for creatures under 3 power, though! Keeper of Fables (cat!), Ohran Frostfang, or Primordial Sage as an extra Soul of the Harvest maybe?

Temur Sabertooth is a favourite of mine, so you can save and replay all the creatures!

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