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Creature — Kor Scout
When Kor Cartographer enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.
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Kor Cartographer Discussion
4 days ago
Hi! Saw your post on the forums, glad to see more Brion players out there.
In response to the forum post: in my personal experience Stalking Vengeance never did much for me. but with the choice between Insurrection or Aurelia, the Warleader, I'd cut the Warleader.
Now after having a look at your deck, I've got a few suggestions!
First off, you have a lot of high costed(6-8 mana) spells, but almost no ramp to speak of.
Boros Signet, Coldsteel Heart, Commander's Sphere, Fellwar Stone, Fire Diamond, Hedron Archive, Marble Diamond, and Mind Stone are all good options. Focus on the 2 mana ramps because that a) allows for a turn 3 Brion and b) doesn't slow you down as much in the late game.
Ramp is important, and so is card draw. Unfortunately, Boros sucks at both. Still, artifacts like Well of Lost Dreams and Skullclamp are great, so through in some more like Infiltration Lens and Mask of Memory. Solemn Simulacrum is great too, though price is an issue(Kor Cartographer is the budget version). The color red also provides you with wheel effects, you have a couple but Reforge the Soul would help you I think.
Now the boring stuff is out of the way. How about some big creatures?! Hamletback Goliath, Thunderblust, and Serra Avatar are some good sackable fatties, and give great value for your dollar! Sun Titan is some good recursion.
Now for some win conditions to bounce off ya: Phyrexian Processor! Here's what you need: 9 mana, at least 1 more life than your opponent, and Brion on the field. Play the processor, pay most of your life, make a X/X creature, sack it to Brion, kill your opponent and gain all the life back! Works great with damage/lifegain doublers.
Phyrexian Devourer! Here's how he works. Exile cards off your library until he hits seven and his ability triggers, then sack him with Brion in response to the trigger, then keep exileing cards in respone to that to get it's power up to more than your opponents, then all that resolves and kills someone. This can all happen turn 7 which is nice.
Cut suggestions. Whenever I'm cutting stuff I look at the top of my curve first and move down. How much are these 6, 7, 8 mana spells doing for you? I'd take a long look at the two Akromas and some of the other angels, Stalking Vengeance, and Ryusei, the Falling Star. Further down the curve I see Taj-Nar Swordsmith(not using him to full potential), Magus of the Disk(just use the disk) and Vesuva(replace with Clifftop Retreat).
Hopefully some of this helps! Check out my Brion deck for a reference!
Commander / EDH
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1 week ago
Welcome to EDH! How's this format treating you so far? How is it in comparison to other formats? And I love that commander too, even the art is beautiful. And besides my suggestions to make the deck stronger, you should look at "https://edhrec.com" to check out all the orzhov commanders and what cards are good for this commander. Check out "http://www.smileylich.com/mtg/magocracy/Magocracy_G1.html" as well for anything you can't find in the gatherer database. And look at "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im1VuV7-qSI", I thought that was a fun theory but that could just be my interest in math.
Anyway, onto my arguments for a better deck. Like Mortify or Hero's Downfall instead of Murder? Or Unmake/ Ruthless Disposal v Eyeblight's Ending/ Bone Splinters? Gotta love that removal. Forsake the Worldly has become a favorite of mine, I was so happy to see that in your deck. There's also some other cards like Utter End, Pontiff of Blight, etc that fits your theme well. I also love non-combat victories, so I would add more cards like Zulaport Cutthroat and Debt to the Deathless.
Now onto the hard decisions. Like High Priest of Penance v Angel of Deliverance. Each has it's own pros and cons, but I thought I should argue for it. I would also replace Unraveling Mummy as it only supports Khenra Eternal and Gravedigger. I'd argue for Gifted Aetherborn or Vampire Nighthawk instead. I like where you were going with Gravedigger though, everyone needs some recursion. I'd argue for Phyrexian Reclamation or Ravos, Soultender to keep with the recursion, or load up some reanimation with Dread Return, Stitch Together, or Phyrexian Delver to keep with the ETB (enter the battlefield) effects. And if you want another general theme for the deck, consider Panharmonicon or Skybind. Lastly, you could include an infinite combo to make it more competitive, like Emeria Shepherd + Kor Cartographer to ramp all your Plains out.
So yah. I still love the deck and upvoted it, I just wanted to argue some cards and be devil's advocate. Also, EDH is my favorite format and I'm always here, so text me if you've any questions or need more help. Hope this helps
2 weeks ago
Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Fleetfoot Panther, Qasali Ambusher, Regal Caracal, Whitemane Lion can replace some of the underperforming cats. The flash/bounce cats can help save some of your more important feline personalities from removal or even let you reuse their ETB effecs.
Really not a fan of Land Tax effects like Oreskos Explorer because you're just not ramping. Kodama's Reach or Blighted Woodland would be better to get more of your basics out of your deck and help turn on the Emeria. Or if you want to keep all the lands to hand effects, it'd be worth looking at tossing in a Terrain Generator.
If you want to get more cat tokens, you will definitely want Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession to double up, also greatly amusing with Bloodforged Battle-Axe. Also, at that point Konda's Banner is a ridiculous boon for all your cats.
Not a fan of Quietus Spike since with all your cats and equipment, life doesn't matter all that much, and if someone is just sitting too high on life, your commander is no slouch in combat himself. Voltron him up and get in for Commander Damage. Lightning Greaves on the other hand is something that I've never liked in equipment focused decks simply because there will be times you have to play around it awkwardly and lose out because of the shroud.
Finding cards to cut is ridiculously hard. Creeping Renaissance is awesome, but this could also be Open the Vaults/Faith's Reward depending on how flexible you want to be. Renaissance is good for the reusability, but having to cast everything over again can be quite the pain.
All in all, the list is really tight, and save a few cats that might be a bit meh in play, it's a great place to start. Actual games will let you know just which cards are underperforming and need to be reevaluated.
2 weeks ago
So two things that are difficult for Orzhov that are essential for any commander deck are generating card advantage and ramping. HUGE for any deck running white is Land Tax. It's pricey but there's a reason. Not only does it ensure you will have a land drop every turn, it also generates enormous card advantage since you are pulling out all of your lands from your deck, giving you a greater chance to draw into things that will actually help you. Kor Cartographer will also do this for you. It's basically another Solemn Simulacrum (minus that one card draw effect of course). Rune-Scarred Demon seems really dirty in this deck. I also feel like there might be some way to go infinite with Rings of Brighthearth type effects although I'm not exactly sure what cards you would need if it's even possible. I can look into that more if you'd like the option to do that. Or not. I know some play groups frown upon going infinite in EDH. Also I see no reason not to run either one or both of Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile. Excellent creature removal for any deck running white.
On the topic of card advantage, I tend to go for things like Phyrexian Arena or Greed instead of cards like Read the Bones because they continue to generate card advantage the longer they stay on the board, rather than being a one and done type thing.
These are all the suggestions I can provide you with right now as I am at work, but if you want I can give it a little more thought later on. Nice deck btw! I commend you for not running blue in a deck like this ;)
4 weeks ago
Sun Titan Holy crap he is a must in this deck.
I'm just spit-balling here:
Phyrexian Ingester I'm not too sure about the interaction of repeated flashes, but it could work.
HAHAHA I am definitely going to go and make a FLICKER DECK IM SO EXCITED. Thanks for the idea, man. I spent so much time looking these cars up I just can't not make my own deck! +10000
1 month ago
Kor Cartographer, Eternal Dragon, Knight of the White Orchid, Wayfarer's Bauble, Tithe, Gift of Estates, Journeyer's Kite, Oreskos Explorer, Oath of Lieges, Sword of the Animist, Surveyor's Scope, Extraplanar Lens, Caged Sun
2 months ago
Welcome everyone! You are all a testament to the amazing community we have her on TappedOut. I called for help, you all answered. My cup overfloweth.
MegaMatt13 - Thanks for the comment! Yeah I think I will be putting more plains in. That will also help if I decide I want Emeria Shepherd as well. Nim Deathmantle is great but the mana ramp required just seems to expensive to for me atm, so I'm straying away from it for now. Molten Primordial may be a good finisher and yeah, Sun Titan is going in. I'm at least putting Gratuitous Violence in soon, not sure I like the double edged sword of the others. I stay away from them because of my brother's Zurgo Helmsmasher deck. And I like the tucking/exiling board wipes because of my friend's sliver deck. Thanks again!
jwe94 - Double dipping commenting ;) Thanks! I like Flayer of the Hatebound. The rest don't really seem worth it. Stalking Vengeance used to be in here but I found it's too slow/costs too much. Thanks again!
Oloro_Magic - Thanks for stopping by! Bonehoard looks neat and Moltensteel Dragon could be great as I'll usually have a lot of life. I'll try em out! the rest are either too expensive(looking at you, Chandra), or just don't seem like the best fit. Appreciate you commenting!
zandl - I like all those lands, I'll add them in eventually. Sun Titan is going in. Universal damage doublers are too risky with my brother's Zurgo Helmsmasher deck. Gratuitous Violence will find a place though. Thanks a lot!
TheHamster - Hi again! Just figured you'd like to see the progress! You were my first commenter hahaha! I'm pretty happy with what it's become. Thanks!
landofMordor - Thanks for the comment friend! I have Insult / Injury and will be adding Gratuitous Violence. The others are too risky. Heartless Hidetsugu may work... I'll think about him. I like the Ball Lightning cards too much. It's the main gimmick of the deck so I won't be giving them up haha! Checked out you deck; very nice! Thanks again for stopping by!
Daedalus19876 - Thanks for all the advice! I've actually already seen and upvoted your Judgement Day haha! Gratuitous Violence is going in. Felidar Sovereign will be leaving me soon so I won't add ToE for the same reason he's leaving. Crumbling Colossus will be cut soon-Iroas, God of Victory you think? I've kept Kor Cartographer in the sideboard for that very reason. He'll probably find his way back in. Yes I've been needing more removal and those are all good options. Enlightened Tutor may find a place even with Sunforger possibly being cut. I also think you're right about the 2 cost mana rocks... good advice. All those card draw options are amazing but very expensive. Will keep them in mind but for now I'll find cheaper alternatives. Thank you a thousand times my friend!
clayperce - Appreciate it man! I've never had an issue with Temple of the False God. Works fine for me. Taurean Mauler doesn't work because of my friend's Sliver Overlord, but Sunscorch Regent is nice. Also adds life gain! Other people's treason effects aren't an issue. Never have enough pre-combat mana for Rogue's Passage. I'll consider Chandra. Thanks a lot!
Again, just want to thank you all for the kind words and advice! I've got a lot to think about!
2 months ago
Overall, the deck looks good, especially on a budget! I'm a fan of RW as an EDH color combination - if you want to look over a deck in exchange, and also find some cards you might use, I'd appreciate if you'd look at my Judgment Day: Avacyn the Purifier EDH | *PRIMER* deck haha.
I feel like your deck could use a Gratuitous Violence. It would double the damage your hasty creatures deal, while also doubling the damage (and life gain) you reap from Brion throwing them. To spit it out earlier, you could run Academy Rector, and use Brion to sac her :)
Crumbling Colossus is your weakest high-power creature by quite a margin, and would be my first cut.
You have Swords to Plowshares in here, but there's other removal you might want to be playing (Path to Exile, Oblation, Chaos Warp, etc). Also, add an Enlightened Tutor to your Sunforger Package; you'll thank me later haha.
Your ramp is...marginal at best, I'm afraid. I personally would try to play all of the 2-mana rocks you can, since they let you cast Brion on T3. That suggests Coldsteel Heart, Fellwar Stone, Fire Diamond, Marble Diamond, Iron Myr, Gold Myr, and Mind Stone (listed from best to worst). Normally I'd suggest Mana Crypt too, but it's worth half as much as your deck in total ;) I'd cut your 3-mana rocks wherever possible.
RW always lacks card draw. You literally only have 2 cards in this deck that can draw you cards, however. That is a PROBLEM. I'd recommend getting a Memory Jar, Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul, and Wheel of Fate. Yes, I am aware of the cost of Wheel, but it's vital to your deck, and it's a good investment (price keeps going up, and it's good in every red deck). If you're feeling fancy, Scroll Rack+Land Tax is another super good combo ;)
Hope that's helpful! :)