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Creature — Zombie Warrior
Risen Executioner can't block.
Other Zombie creatures you control get +1/+1.
You may cast Risen Executioner from your graveyard if you pay more to cast it fro each other creature card in your graveyard.
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Risen Executioner Discussion
1 month ago
Ok, first off, your deck has 2 too many cards, you'll need to cut those. Secondly, I think you'll find you have too few lands to be consistent. Next, I believe there are better zombies. Here's a few. I don't know what your budget is, so some of these may be a bit pricey.
Other card suggestions.
Skullclamp If you have Gravecrawler, it's a 2 mana draw 2.
Dictate of Erebos A good way to keep opponents locked down.
Thornbite Staff Combined with Gisa, you can keep pumping out zombies at a MUCH faster rate
Coat of Arms The ultimate buff to a tribal deck.
Hope that helps!
1 month ago
Thanks for your suggestions! This is a pretty rough list right now; there's a lot of cards I need to get, many of which you've suggested (Liliana, Death's Majesty, Liliana's Mastery, Shepherd of Rot, Zombie Master). This deck is admittedly a low priority among my EDH lists, (owning nine Commander decks really hurts my wallet) but I'm looking forward to teching it out as it is next on my list to upgrade.
I would absolutely run Lord of the Undead and Relentless Dead if it weren't for the fact that both of those cards are quite expensive for me. Since Standard is about to rotate out Shadows Over Innistrad, I figure I can pick up the latter once it cycles out for a better price.
Dralnu, Lich Lord isn't really good for my playgroup. Aside from the fact that I'm focusing on a creature-based deck as opposed to instant/sorceries, there's about two too many copies of Blasphemous Act floating around that would really punish me.
Breathstealer's Crypt looks cool, always love older janky cards that synergise well. I'm just concerned about revealing every card I draw; I love to play politically and I think that could hurt me.
Dread Slaver used to be in the list, and from playtesting I can say it underperformed. A lot. I could never create a favorable combat situation in which my opponent would actually block/attack into it. Creatures can just be really big in EDH.
Zombie Infestation is a pretty good card, but I like to tutor up Necropotence pretty often and discarding has antisynergy with it.
Other cards I'm looking to add would be Graveborn Muse (I get to draw into whatever I didn't scry away), Risen Executioner (as a more budget Zombie lord), Hero's Downfall (to strictly upgrade Murder), Buried Alive (just a casual 3-for-3 tutor), and Paradox Haze (because duh).
Thanks again for your upvote!
1 month ago
Thanks Draw_Wurm, I think you're right about adding Plague Belcher over Risen Executioner to get a second Diregraf Captain effect. By having the effect of draining each opponent whenever a zombie dies, it makes this more resistant to board wipes. Go ahead and wrath my Zombeetles... you'll still lose life... Then I'll just bring em back again...
I also swapped a couple other cards in and out. This deck is still in beta testing.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Endless Ranks of the Dead OUT FOR Phyrexian Altar:How has Endless Ranks of the Dead performed? Cause to me it seems like an extremely good card, also since you will be able to say it triggers before your commander and may be able to add 3 extra zombies and then scry an extra 3 and drain opponents for 3 life more? The 2/2 zombies are good as both blockers, sacrifice targets, attackers and your commanders triggered ability. The card seems sweet, why is this one on the cut list?
Phyrexian Altar ..... You know all the reasons for adding this card ;)
Temple of Deceit OUT FOR Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx:Seems like an excellent swap, Temple of Deceit lets you scry 1, which is maybe useful turn 1 or 2 and then never again with your commander, and most of the time the card will probably stay on top. And it enters tapped, which slows the deck down. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx enters untapped and makes alot of mana thanks to the devotion, so seems way better than Temple of Deceit. Dont know what your devotion is on the board most of the times and how good it will work out, but i do think this land is better in every way.
Dread Summons OUT FOR Memory Plunder:I have to say i dont see how good Memory Plunder will be, might depend on your playgroup, but is it that often there is an instant or sorcery in a grave that is worth copying for 4 coloured mana? To me Dread Summons seems like a way better card tuning up your zombie hoard and commanders ability and it targets all your opponents, that may be true for the copied spell as well but does that happen? Also, you have couple of ways to make infinite mana in your deck, does that not work amazingly with Dread Summons, with a Altar of the Brood this seems to get a lot of extra cards in graveyards? Maybe overselling Dread Summons a bit here, but i have a hard time seeing what Memory Plunder is really good for.
Cemetery Reaper OUT FOR Dreamborn Muse:Cutting Cemetery Reaper seems good, the second worst lord after Risen Executioner. But aren't you going to have the most cards in hand during the game? Won't Dreamborn Muse mill you way more than your opponents? And if you have Paradox Haze out it will just mill you even more.
And to me it seems like Endless Ranks of the Dead and Dread Summons seems to good to cut, but again might need some reasons i haven't seen. Or it is from your playtesting that has shown these results :)
1 month ago
If you're looking to make this really zombie tribal, you'll need the zombie lords. I see Lord of the Accursed and Diregraf Colossus (somewhat), but I'd recommend adding in Death Baron (he's a bit pricey for some people), Lord of the Undead, Risen Executioner, Undead Warchief and Zombie Master. If you're looking to continue the discard subtheme, then Necrogen Mists will really hurt players, forcing them to essentially skip their draw steps. Additionally, I cannot recommend Phyrexian Arena enough...unless I'm recommending Necropotence aka the Skull aka the best card draw engine in the game. It does nonbo a bit with your discard theme, but eh, it's still Necro.
Thinking about ways to get rid of Demonic Pact is harder. The card's basically a flavor choice, and not even close to good in EDH, but I guess you could try trolly shenanigans like Phyrexian Negator, Smokestack, Possessed Portal (works hilariously well with Necro), Ratchet Bomb, All Is Dust, Claws of Gix (which is likely your best option), Curse of the Cabal (which is bad), Damping Engine shenanigans, and Forbidden Ritual. Aka bad cards and, in my opinion, if you're forcing yourself to play bad cards to justify playing a bad card which is in your deck because of flavor, you likely should just cut the offending card. Up to you, however.
2 months ago
TDK: OMG, i know its stupid but had to comment on how great of a suggestion cutting Chromatic Lantern for Phyrexian Altar is, just wow. Opens up combos and still serves the mana purpose, just thumbs up man.
VexenX : First of all, congratulations on the best zombie EDH deck on tappedout, you deserve it for putting this much work into it :) And i am also going to build one zombie deck with scarab god, it might be an exact copy of this deck, why mess with the formula ;). Love the amount of zombies, not to many but not to few, great token abilities, not only clean 2/2 zombies but zombie token with abilities :D And can win without its commander which is so nice to be able to do either through draining life, milling or just smash them in the face with zombies.
Now on your recent update.
First of all Phyrexian Altar, im glad to see you adding it soon, it goes so well with Gravecrawler and unlocks so many combos, most have already been posted but my list is over 20 combos with the two of them, crazy. And with The Scarab God Scry ability, you will find those two so freaking fast.
Chromatic Lantern out for Damnation: Agree, Not that useful in 2 colours, you will rarely start with mono coloured mana in your hand. Damnation is a great boardwipe, and there should always be included board wipes in EDH decks, and as you mention it fills the grave. There is still the Zombie friendly board wipe with Noxious Ghoul you could consider if you think about replacing a zombie.
Overseer of the Damned out for Fleshbag Marauder: Sad to see Overseer of the Damned go, it such a good card, but because of the CMC it just doesn't work. It is very expensive and not a zombie which also takes it a bit down. Fleshbag Marauder on the other hand is a zombie, removes more than Overseer of the Damned on the enter the battlefield effect, even though you dont get to choose, but playing it early will not often give other players a choice :)
Risen Executioner out for Undead Alchemist: Great swap. Risen Executioner as you say is the most expensive and worst lord. Completely agree on the arguments about Undead Alchemist, if only the exile had just let them stay in the graveyeard it would have been nuts. But it is still powering up your commanders triggered ability which seem more mana friendly than the activated ability, and a bit more healthy for you being one step ahead in both life total and knowing what you will be getting from your topdeck the next several turns. And if somebody removes it for the life drain effect, oh no what will i do with my 20 zombie tokens...swing.
Nim Deathmantle out for Gempalm Polluter: Yeah, the mana needed for Nim Deathmantle always seemed to high for me, awesome effect but for 6 mana there are better things to use the mana on. Gempalm Polluter seems really good, if only for its cycling its still amazing it can be a instant target player dies :)
Psychic Strike out for Rewind: I would say strictly better counterspell, great swap. Nice having four mana open, and it will also be able to generate an extra mana with Dimir Aqueduct or if you included Temple of the False God could in a rare instance generate 2 more mana :)
Dictate of Erebos out for Curtains' Call: Seems like a fine swap, more removal is always good, and Dictate of Erebos always seems like a little to expensive and you already have the same effect with Grave Pact.
4 mana for the ability = 1 trigger (4 mana total)
+2 additional trigger = 2 triggers (6 mana total)
+2 additional trigger = 3 triggers (8 mana total)
+2 additional trigger = 4 triggers (10 mana total)
+2 additional trigger = 5 triggers (12 mana total)
+2 additional trigger = 6 triggers (14 mana total)
4 mana for ability + extra trigger = 2 triggers (4 mana total)
4 mana for ability + extra trigger = 4 triggers (8 mana total)
4 mana for ability + extra trigger = 6 triggers (12 mana total
But yeah, great swaps :)
My last considerations is Noxious Ghoul for the zombie friendly board wipe.
Phyrexian Altar which you are going to include, which is good :D
Yeah, thats all i got, great deck, thanks for the appreciation of the suggestions, really nice to see one appreciating them :)
2 months ago
I do agree with a good bunch of your cut considerations
Chromatic Lantern: I agree on this cut, it is a very nice and good card, but is better used in decks with 3-5 colours for it to really have value. How often do you begin a game with a hand that isn't able to produce both blue or/and black mana in this deck, you have lots of dual coloured lands so my guess is not that often :)
Risen Executioner: Its not really the best zombie lord, the +1/+1 is nice, but it cant block and the ability to play it from the graveyard is too big of a mana cost since your grave will have a good amount of creatures, especially from board wipes, it is commander after all. So yeah, propably the first thing to cut. Maybe add Patriarch's Bidding as it cost 1 more mana but return all your zombies which might be better when you have 5 mana available.
Nim Deathmantle: Its abilities is pretty expensive, 6 mana to even use an equipment is quite a lot if not the equiment is game changing, and it does not really seem that gamechanging, its a nice effect and nice to have reanimation, but there is already a good amount of reanimation and your commander benefits from your graveyard as well as the other players graveyard, and it makes them zombies and might buff them up to a 4/4 for only 4 mana and is on a stick, so it is a fine pick to cut. If you put in Noxious Ghoul in the deck at some point, it might be worth since it will protect your commander or one of the other 5 non-zombies you have.
Rooftop Storm: I am a little against cutting this one, i have not playtested this deck so have not seen how it performs. I understand that it has a high CMC, and you will rarely have that many zombies in your hand for this to have an strong effect. But if you end cutting a little more non-creatures and add some more zombies, it might be good to keep in. You do only have 17/18 zombies so i see the reason of maybe cutting it, but maybe it just the fact of free zombies that makes one want to keep it.
Dictate of Erebos: Same effect as Grave Pact but with flash and 1 more in CMC, depends on how useful Grave Pact is, and for me 5 mana and a flash card seem a bit expensive, even though you probably have a good amount of lands untapped. But Leyline of Anticipation and Vedalken Orrery will give Grave Pact flash. It really comes down to if the effect is worth having 2 card slot taking the up the same affect to make sure you get it.
Psychic Strike: Its nice for a counterspell to mill an opponent since it ups your commanders target for eternalize effect, but for a counterspell it seems a bit weak, and other cards might have a bigger impact.
Overseer of the Damned: Too expensive, completely agree. Combos well with Grave Pact, but tapping out 7 mana for this effect is saddening since it will likely be a big target the second it comes out. And if you draw it early game it feels like a set back, even though you will scry away from it very quickly.
One Land: How is your experience with you mana availibilty? You have a 3.08 Average CMC which is a bit but nicely low for a zombie deck, might be another reason to cut Rooftop Storm. The most common and spread mana base for a commander deck is 46 mana sources (38 lands and 8 accelerants) You have 36 lands and 7 accelerants, so a bit less. It might work but for me it seems like it should rather have an extra land instead of cutting one :) But if yuo want to cut one, i have a hard time seeing how good Winding Canyons is in this deck.
But these are all my considerations on your possible cuts.