Stronghold Assassin

Stronghold Assassin

Creature — Zombie Assassin

Sacrifice a creature: Destroy target nonblack creature.

Stronghold Assassin Discussion

GenesisOdin on Mr. Steal Yo Gorl

4 weeks ago

As Pro_Noob said, Bone Splinters is great and all, but if you can get a Stronghold Assassin it does roughly the same thing, but is repeatable as a creature.

Victimize is also fun in decks like this, as you can sacrifice their creature and get back two of your own. Similarly, Rescue from the Underworld can let you sacrifice their creature and bring back one of your own, but you'll also permanently steal theirs as well (really fun when used on someone's Eldrazi :P).

That's all I got for you from a quick look. I have a similar themed deck myself, so I know the fun it can be (for those of us on the piloting end, anyways lol).

Deadpoo111 on Korvold's Token Buffet

1 month ago

Stronghold Assassin seems really weak? Like you have to untap with it, which probably won't happen. I'd highly suggest Bontu the Glorified . Oof, Scheming Symmetry ? I think I'd rather run Vampiric Tutor it can also replace Wishclaw Talisman It seems like you're giving the combo players too many tools in competitive.

TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash

3 months ago

Let's get down to business, shall we?

DELETE THIS

Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,

QUESTIONABLE

Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist

At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.


COMBO TIME

I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.

  1. The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

  2. Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,

  3. The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,

  4. ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,

MORE COMBO

You also have the 3 piece combo of

  1. Sanguine Bond
  2. Exquisite Blood
  3. Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst

I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning

If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.


LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ

Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition

The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.

EXTORT OP

Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer

Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.


Okay, it's Mana Time

Caged Sun

COOL LANDS

Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey  Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land

Mana Rocks

Cryptolith Fragment  Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market

For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.

Ramp

Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart

Lots of Mana Fast

Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned

Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.

Investments

Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate

A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.

Summary:

The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.


TRIBAL

Zombie Tribal

Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord

Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.

Vampire Tribal

Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper  Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,

If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.

To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...

Dowsing Dagger  Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos

Buff My Team!

Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd

Summary:

The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.


REMOVAL

Targeted Removal

Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood

Epic Board Wipes

Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection

Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.


Wow, I Hate Minorities

Wow, I hate tokens

Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair

Wow, Green is Cancer

Perish

Wow, I hate when other people play spells

Painful Quandary

Wow, I hate when other people attack me

No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls

Wow, I hate myself

Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )

Wow, I hate lifegain

Tainted Remedy , False Cure

Wow, I hate real board wipes

Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise

Wow, I hate burst damage

Palace Siege , Polluted Bonds

Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures

Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir

Wow, I hate this one person in particular

Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom


Lifegain

Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos

Protection

Rush of Vitality

Benefit from Death

Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past

Cool Card Draw

Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence

Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.

Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice

Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve

These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.


Storm Build Cards

Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith

The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .


Win Cons to think about

6000j on

5 months ago

As someone who's played Gisa and Geralf for the past 2 years, you're missing a decent chunk of things.

First and foremost is any kind of interaction. Counterspells and kill spells are incredibly incredibly incredibly important, and the deck doesn't really function if you don't run enough. I personally like Ghastly Demise as a neat one that isn't the usual one, but overall imo you need ~8 counterspells/kill spells.

You're running a lot of cards that don't really do anything. Gisa and Geralf is a deck based around value imo, and running cards that are purely P/T lords limits the decks ability to function when you don't have your commander out. Along the same line, cards that just make tokens aren't great either (with an exception of Noosegraf Mob, that card is fantastic because it demands an answer all alone).

You're playing a lot of expensive cards, which usually means you can't cast them and do anything else on the same turn, but overall how you want to play the deck is definitely up to you, I've opted for a slimmer curve and try to win by just grinding the game out very consistently.

Some cards I love that you aren't running are Corpse Augur , Vindictive Lich , and Stronghold Assassin . Corpse Augur is just so many cards so consistently, Lich is just value value value, and can make people discard in their draw steps as well if you have a sac outlet. Stronghold Assassin is just such a powerful threat of activation, and it can sac itself to dodge exile as well.

I hope you enjoy the commander, here's my list if you want to see how i've built it: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gisa-and-geralf-toolbox-combo/

goodair on Budget Prossh

8 months ago

Considering your on a tight budget, Id cut these:
Rhythm of the Wild (unless you play vs alot of blue control, Love this card but I cut this quick when I realized how many things it doesn't affect that I care about)
Comet Storm
Chain Reaction (maybe keep, it kinda liek blasphemous act but you would have a betetr idea how well it does in your group!)
Stronghold Assassin
Savage Ventmaw
Vampiric Rites
Chancellor of the Forge
Forgotten Ancient
Plaguecrafter
Catacomb Sifter
Deathbringer Thoctar
Atarka, World Render

Haeffound on

10 months ago

I have Squee, the Immortal in the deck. Is there a point to have the 2 version? Also a Rekindling Phoenix and a Goblin Chainwhirler incoming.

I will include Stronghold Assassin , Viscera Seer and Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest . The hard choice is what to remove. Getting rid of attacks sorcery like Overrun , Overwhelming Stampede ? Also, Farseek ? I feel I havn't enough mana accelator.

Goblin Grenade / Goblin War Strike ; only one of the two, or none?

As for creatures, removing Goblin Cratermaker , Jund Hackblade and Pawn of Ulamog ?

Shabompistan on

10 months ago

Reassembling Skeleton and Squee, Goblin Nabob if you want more recursion for creatures. Maybe even Ashcloud Phoenix

You may need more reliable sac outlets, I would recommend Stronghold Assassin or Attrition if you want to lean towards control. Viscera Seer and Goblin Bombardment are generally good in any situation.

Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest is perfect when you have hordes of tokens.

Shabompistan on Savra Sac

10 months ago

Death effects:

Dictate of Erebos : Just another Grave Pact really. Great in any sac deck.

Sac outlets:

Stronghold Assassin : Easy residual removal, just like Attrition .

Vraska, Golgari Queen is a pretty decent sac outlet and she can become a win condition.

Draw:

Fecundity : Good draw if you don't mind the grouphug effect. Deathreap Ritual has good draw without the downside other than being higher CMC.

I also don't think the mana curve really requires 40 lands, you could definitely take out a few if you have more cards you want to swap in.

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