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Creature — Zombie Assassin
Sacrifice a creature: Destroy target nonblack creature.
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Stronghold Assassin Discussion
1 week ago
I haven't done a lot of research on zombies, but I learned from my old token deck that it takes a lot of trial and error to get the balance between token producers, pump spells, and abusers.
I think you haven't taken as much advantage of the colors you have. Green has a lot of cards that syngerize with tokens and white has the best removal and board wipes
I haven't looked at prices with these suggestions. Also, you don't have to listen to me at all
Josu Vess, Lich Knight - With green to help you ramp, this deck has a better chance of kicking him than other zombie decks. Open the Graves - More Tokens. Underrealm Lich - Card draw is always good. Varina, Lich Queen - Card draw, more tokens, and some lifegain to help keep you healthy for those life costs. Kodama's Reach, Rampant Growth, etc - I always feel like land ramp is more reliable than artifact ramp, especially in green, but this is just preference. You do seem to be lacking a bunch of ramp to keep those activated abilities from slowing you down. Death Baron - Another lord, but gives deathtouch too Carrion Feeder - Free sac outlet, if you are looking for one.
Pontiff of Blight - If you have solid ramp, giving all your creatures extort can get really dumb. Graveborn Muse - Might kill, but you will draw your entire deck with the right board state. Risen Executioner - Another lord with recursion Corpse Harvester - Tutor a zombie and a land. Noxious Ghoul - Could be spicy 1 sided board wipe Phyrexian Crusader - Possible 1 shot, but only if you have the right amount of pump. Shepherd of Rot - Could kill everyone. Good way to get around pillow fort and fogs. Raving Dead - Fun spice. Balthor the Defiled - Pretty good recursion. Right now Archetype of Imagination is the only non black creature. Dralnu, Lich Lord - You don't have that many instants and sorceries, but what you do have is strong. I think it reduces Army of the Damned's Flashback. Boneknitter - Tribal protection. Anguished Unmaking, Swords to Plowshares, Counterspell etc - some single target removal is always useful, and you are in amazing colors for it. I have this problem with my dragon deck. Second Harvest, Parallel Evolution - One time token doublers Craterhoof Behemoth, Overrun, Triumph of the Hordes - Ends games. Bramble Sovereign - Not a zombie, but this can do WORK. City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Reflecting Pool - 4 colors needs as much color fixing as possible. Esper Panorama - OK fetchland Krosan Verge - Underestimated fetch imo Fecundity - Crazy card draw Austere Command Merciless Eviction Cleansing Nova - A few more wipes. But these let you interact with artifacts and enchantments that this deck does not seem to do well.
Stronghold Assassin - effects like Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, and even Attrition are just better. Archetype of Imagination - I appreciate that you are trying to deal with a weakness in the deck while giving your creatures evasion. But, aren't zombie's looking to die for LTB effects? It also costs a lot. Grave Betrayal - Costs a bit too much for me, but a strong effect. I'm up in the air about this. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Might be rough to cast in 4 colors Conspiracy - I might be missing something, but almost all of your creatures are zombies already. Skullbriar, the Walking Grave - Just seems like a beat stick that is hard to pump up. Vulturous Zombie - easier to pump up, but still feels like just another beat stick.
3 months ago
Your mana issue is simply that you don't have enough land. Without being in green, or having an extremely bottom-heavy curve, you should never go below 33 lands on principle, and rarely go below 35 without high-level mana rocks like Mana Crypt & Mana Vault or lands like Ancient Tomb. Additionally, lands that come into play tapped for little value like Skyline Cascade, Mortuary Mire, Halimar Depths, Ebon Stronghold, and Bottomless Vault would better serve you as basics. If you're not proliferating, a storage land like Ebon Stronghold isn't very good. I understand that you want to store up mana for your big spells, but imagine if you ran Ashnod's Altar instead. With all the zombie tokens you can make, it's much better acceleration that doesn't tie down a land for several turns. Corpse Harvester can also turn your tokens or otherwise expended zombies into ramp and tutor for more relevant zombies.
Sleep, Ghoulcaller's Chant, Ashiok, Painful Quandary, Followed Footsteps(note 1), Infernal Tribute, Royal Assassin(note 2), Posessed Skab, and Stuffy Doll are all easy cuts for either being off-theme, or inefficient when playing EDH. Manalith and Searchlight should probably become Charcoal Diamond and Sky Diamond, while Thaumatic Compass becomes Dimir Signet. Finally, the biggest change would be putting Scarab God as the General. While Grim-Grin can be powerful and close games out by hitting 21 damage quite quickly, the scry that scarab god gives you when you're playing zombie tribal is unreal. Plus he's so resilient and dodges the increasing casting cost by returning to your hand. These two points are especially relevant when we consider that your main complaint is being on the losing end of mana variance.
n1: If you really need the Followed Footsteps effect, just use Helm of the Host, it's better in almost every respect. n2: Unless you meant Rathi Assassin or Stronghold Assassin, which are both zombies.
4 months ago
If you want to lower the curve of your deck Attrition, Relentless Dead, Gravecrawler, Undercity Informer, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Stronghold Assassin and Flesh Carver all help lower your curve, while either giving you more thrulls, or more things to do with your thrulls. If you want mana, Black Market is wonderful, and Expedition Map or Diabolic Tutor can help you find your Cabal Coffers in a hurry.
4 months ago
Thanks for your feedback. You're making some excellent points that have made me decide to make a few changes:
Out: Stronghold Assassin; In: Fleshbag Marauder. You are very right about Assassin not being usable right after it enters play. In that sense, Marauder is much stronger (especially since it targets all opponents instead of just a single creature).
Out: Thornbite Staff; In: Sidisi, Undead Vizier. What was I thinking not including this earlier?!? She's spectacularly strong with Gisa and Geralf as she is able to exploit herself, making her a reusable tutor. The Staff has some fun utility uses, but not enough to be included in this deck. Also, I found the equip costs are rather high.
I gave your other suggestions a once-over but I've decided to hold off on them until I've played the deck some more. Thanks again! Also for the upvote(s)!
4 months ago
I run a black oath deck as my pet mono-black deck, he's a great commander with a lot of versatility. Here's a couple cards that might be worthwhile. I like Bloodghast but personally I run Endless Cockroaches just because it's way cheaper and kinda funny. Consuming Vapors is a pretty good way to weed out the board and gain life in the process. Behold the Beyond is a pretty good tutor despite it's cost, and Diabolic Revelation can be a win-con depending on how hard you ramp. I would cut Cellar Door because it's too expensive and unreliable. Stronghold Assassin is a cheaper option in comparison to Attrition and Murder might do you a bit better than Premature Burial. Anowan, the Ruin Sage is good for group sac as is Magus of the Abyss. Archfiend of Depravity helps keep your opponent's board state low. I like Corpse Harvester and Corpse Augur as well. Personally, I'd cut Bloodline Keeper Flip because for his price he isn't worth it because this isn't a vampire tribal deck. Hell's Caretaker and Doomed Necromancer are good for recursion. Fleshbag Marauder is worthwhile too I think for group sac. I'm also a big fan of Palace Siege and Oversold Cemetery for passive recursion. Flesh Carver has also won me a lot of games, the intimidate is very powerful. I'd consider running Westvale Abbey Flip as well, potentially a win-con. Shade's Form and Pestilence are also pretty good enchantments. I would substitute Sorin Markov for Torgaar, Famine Incarnate, he's a sac outlet as well as a big body and you can recur his effect and even use it to bring yourself back up to 20 life. Infernal Offering is also a pretty useful card in my experience. Maybe consider Alhammarret's Archive too if you want to make your card draw and life gain more impactful. Those are just a few suggestion, hope it's helpful!! Mono-black is my passion haha
6 months ago
You should play Relentless Dead instead of Highborn Ghoul, Bloodghast instead of Stronghold Assassin, and Gravecrawler instead of Liliana's Reaver and Gray Merchant of Asphodel. You should also play Fatal Push or Disfigure instead of Quest for the Gravelord.
7 months ago
@Logics Thanks for pointing out the issue with the lands, I didn't realize how few actually got put in the deck. Crux of Fate also seems like a good idea because, while playing with my deck, Bontu's Last Reckoning has always hurt me more than it helped. Also, I run Gravecrawler for two main reasons: 1) Cards like Stronghold Assassin, Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, and other cards that sac for effects. The more recursive sac fodder in the deck, the more consistently I can use those effects; 2) He's part of a combo in the deck that also uses Rooftop Storm, a sac outlet, and one of the drain lords. While the combo might not be perfect, it's in there in case I need it and it works really well when I get it off.
7 months ago
Link to my Meren deck here: Okay, the Whole Death Thing? Minor Setback. That being said, here are some of the very best.
Targets: Acidic Slime for noncreature removal, Ravenous Chupacabra and Noxious Gearhulk are good creature removal, Primal Druid and Viridian Emissary are great ramp, Vindictive Lich and, Solemn Simulacrum Wurmcoil Engine are all fantastic.
Outlets: Champion of Stray Souls may seem odd, but really he's very useful. Sacrificing large quantities of creatures, getting the same amount back. Hell's Caretaker does the same, at a smaller scale. Disciple of Bolas is good card advantage. Killing Wave is either a board wipe or a massive burn spell. Perilous Forays is legendary ramp. Quagmire Druid is a little meta-dependent, but good. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a tutor AND a sac. Stronghold Assassin is good removal. Vampiric Rites really pretty good card draw.
And now for the passive stuff: Catacomb Sifter, Shadows of the Past, and Reaper of the Wilds are good. Deathreap Ritual, Smothering Abomination, and Lifecrafter's Bestiary are all stellar. Savra, Queen of the Golgari and Dictate of Erebos are terrifying. And, finally, Zulaport Cutthroat, while not the greatest, is pretty subtle and drains a good amount.