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Ancient Craving Discussion
1 month ago
go up to 36 lands. You dont need any of those planeswalkers. Take out: Tainted Strike, Tragic Slip, Black Market, Ancestral Vengeance, Glistening Oil, In Garruk's Wake, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Primordial Hydra, Hex Parasite. Add Read the Bones, Essence Warden, Harmonize, Merciless Resolve, Minions' Murmurs maybe, Night's Whisper, Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Cultivate, Blight Sickle, Cauldron of Souls, Diabolic Revelation, Increasing Ambition, Fevered Convulsions, Obelisk Spider. Add the following combo: Devoted Druid +Ivy Lane Denizen = inf mana and sneks. Cinderhaze Wretch + Ivy Lane Denizen = inf sneks and fuck yalls hands.
1 month ago
A few things :)
2) No Toxic Deluge?? It's (IMO) one of the strongest black cards ever printed.
6) Your curve is relatively high, and I'm not really a fan of Manalith and other 3-mana rocks. I'd focus more on cheaper rocks such as Mana Crypt and Mana Vault to accelerate Chainer, as well as Jet Medallion to make your spells cheaper.
This is my mono-black deck, if you feel like taking a look for anything you might add that I've forgotten:
Commander / EDH
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2 months ago
Needs more Rat Colony
With only 6 Relentless Rats you need half of your total number on the battlefield to even make them 4/4s. Most of the time they will be 3 mana 2/2s. You need a critical mass of Relentless Rats--at least 20. If you want to dedicate only a small portion of your deck to the Relentless effect, then Rat Colony is much better; unlike Relentless Rats it benefits from any rat you control, including Marrow-Gnawer's tokens. Pack Rat is also superior if you have many non-Relentless Rats.
Rat Colony is strictly better than Swarm of Rats. It's also generally better than Bog Rats, Carrion Rats, Muck Rats, Nezumi Cutthroat (fear isn't worth a large power loss and "can't block", especially when Marrow-Gnawer provides fear), Pestilence Rats (Rat Colony gets +2/-2 under most conditions and costs 1 less), and Earsplitting Rats (not enough graveyard/discard synergies).
I'm not sure how Shriveling Rot serves the deck.
There are two Cabal Strongholds, so one needs to come out. Cycling lands--Barren Moor, Polluted Mire, and Desert of the Glorified--hedge against land-heavy draws. Some cheap utility/value lands like Zhalfirin Void, Encroaching Wastes, Mystifying Maze, or Temple of the False God might be good over some number of Swamps too.
Phyrexian Tribute -> Scour from Existence, Unstable Obelisk. I know black is bad with artifacts, but there is a reason Phyrexian Tribute is in 55 edh decks, and the other two are in over 5000 each, and it isn't just color restriction. They cover all five permanent types instead of just one, including the equally hard-for-black enchantments. Requiring two creatures to sacrifice, Phyrexian Tribute isn't even always easier to cast, and it's effect is far less flexible.
Speaking of Unstable Obelisk, more mana ramp would be prudent, like Wayfarer's Bauble, Mind Stone, and Commander's Sphere. Bontu's Monument isn't Jet Medallion, but is still worthwhile with 27 creatures.
I don't think there are enough graveyard synergies to make Living Death appropriate.
Night Dealings is slow, does nothing if the battlefield isn't somewhat favorable, can potentially get removed, makes you reveal, and can't get lands. Razaketh's Rite and Mastermind's Acquisition tutor with no fuss. If you want slow, multi-card tutoring, Diabolic Revelation, Demonic Collusion, and Increasing Ambition are reliable options. Although none feature Nezumi in their art.
2 months ago
SynergyBuild, thanks for the thoughtful recommendations! There's no denying that the Triskelion and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed combo is useful, and would fit nicely into this deck, but I already have it in another one of my more competitive decks. I wanted this one to be pretty casual for the most part, which is also why I avoided putting too many tutoring cards in there.
As for the 0-drops such as Memnite, Shield Sphere, Ornithopter, etc.: I'd rather focus on creatures that can generate tokens like Abhorrent Overlord, Sifter of Skulls, and Sengir Autocrat for the sac bait. Since CMC isn't an issue for Whisper, Blood Liturgist's ability, there'd be no point to include the 0-drops that would only be worth a single sacrifice, and not necessarily be worth bringing back with Whisper, Blood Liturgist to sacrifice again.
I do think that most of the cards you suggested be cut still have pretty valid reasons to be present in the deck. Most of those cards are either for spot removal Malicious Affliction, control Grave Pact, ETB/upon death triggers Kokusho, the Evening Star, discard effects Call the Bloodline, or token generation Noosegraf Mob. I mean, sure, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger doesn't really fit in the deck, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to potentially cheat out an Eldrazi titan on like, turn 4.
I could probably drop Ancient Craving for one of the more efficient cards like Night's Whisper though. I really like Corpse Connoisseur too. Diabolic Intent fits the theme of the deck, so I might swap that in for one of the other tutoring cards. Withering Boon seems pretty great too. Counterspells in black are hilarious, and often unexpected. Toxic Deluge could very well end up replacing Damnation, because you're right, it is pretty good. Just not sure if paying that much life is always worth the effect.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions! I've definitely still got some work to do on this deck.
3 months ago
The main cards to add for this effect would be:
Triskelion and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed for the most straightforward combo, and the Buried Alive you have to put them in, preferably with Rune-Scarred Demon. You recur the Demon fetching Vindicate, then bring the Mikaeus/Triskelion Combo out by sacing the Demon. This means Buried Alive can win the game with the commander as a one card combo. Phantasmagorian can be used if you end up with any number of the combo pieces in hand.
Other cards to add include Imperial Seal, Grim Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Culling the Weak, Dimir Machinations, Corpse Connoisseur, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Memnite, Shield Sphere, Ornithopter, Grim Monolith, Phyrexian Walker, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Defense Grid, Dark Confidant, etc.
Cards you can drop:
3 months ago
just an FYI playing an artifact land wont untap Traxos, Scourge of Kroog. That dude says "cast an historic spell" and you don't cast lands
Sword of the Animist might be worth it
I really like 2 mana rocks over three mana ones. Unless that three mana rock makes 2 or more mana i'm not sure its better. With that in mind maybe swap Orzhov Cluestone to Mind Stone, Worn Powerstone, Coalition Relic or something similar?
Tymna the Weaver seems great! Drawing cards in any deck is like the best thing ever
Awesome deck! I hope you have fun playing it!!!
3 months ago
Cards I would recommend adding if you want to support your pillowfort theme.
Koskun Falls Does exactly what you want to do with not exactly a back breaking downside.
Delaying Shield Nobody can take away your monarch token and lets you mitigate damage. (Also handy for negating massive fireballs for a turn.)
Smoke Can be good against green rampers and go-wide strategies. Also will make people to think twice before running over your Marchesa with quantity since they'll be open for a longer time and have much more difficulty to come get the monarch token next time.
Tainted AEther Keeps the creatures low, keeps the threats low, keeps everyone wanting to kill you high. Great way to lock boardstate in your favour after a boardwipe.
Marchesa's Decree and Hissing Miasma You want to nibble your opponents as much as you can while making them hesitate harming you if you plan to win while pillowforting. This does both and so either deters would-be attackers or makes finishing the game with Debt to the Deathless or the like easier.
Aurification It's good. Doesn't spare you from lethal but at least saves you from random chunks of damage.
Gideon's Intervention and [Nevermore] Naming opposing commanders is just so backbreaking against some decks and buys you a lot time (and a lot hate from the player). Other than that you can name common threats to your board like Cyclonic Rift and Merciless Eviction. Another card with similar effect on board is Prison Term, which lets you to put opposition into sort of a Nevermore state as they hit the field.
Vow Cycle of Vow of Duty, Vow of Lightning, Vow of Malice Works double duty. Why bother removing opposing creatures if you make them work for you and even be happy about it? Deals with offensive threats while nibbling opposing life totals. Orzhov Advokist also could work the same way in practice, but is less reliable though stronger when it works.
Soul Snare "If you attack me, I will kill your creature" is not an empty threat anymore, also counts towards your enchantment mass making cards like --Sphere of Safety and Open the Vaults more valuable. If this doesn't make big threats look at another direction then nothing will.
Well then. Since the commander herself fixes your needs of juice, the next question is: what do you stall for? (Was that a Hamilton reference?) After the long and satisfying grind of EDH, you want to finally claim the prize and call it a game. There's a few ways to go about it, but I'd recommend picking at least 6 - 10 cards which enables you to win the game when played right. In addition to what you have now I'd recommend one or two more.
X Equals Win the Game: In addition to Debt to the Deathless, other good X spells to add would be Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire, of which the latter is usually better but the first always consistent.
Not this turn, but maybe the next: Felidar Sovereign should net you a win when opposing resources to stop you are running thin. Or at least burn a removal spell.
More mass removal. They can't hit you if they have no creatures, and you really don't care about your own all too much. Two more of any "destroy all creatures" spells would work wonders.
As you are running on a budget here, we can't afford expensive allstars that win games basically no matter what deck you are playing. THUS we have to compensate by making our deck consistent, efficient and precise in what it does - in it's theme (Pillows, taxes and enchantments) - so the cards have more power than the total of their sum. Cards I'd cut:
Ancient Craving Good if we need explosiveness... which we don't. In EDH value this is basically 4 mana 3 life draw 1.
Read the Bones Draw 2 isn't anything to write home about in EDH either, basically draw 2/3th of a card for 3 mana. Marchesa nets you the cards over time, and you aren't in any rush.
Starfield of Nyx Would be good if you could protect your enchantments from the "creature" status as they get easier to spot and wipe remove. The recursion is amazing, but it wont matter when everything bows up, along with the starfield.
Price of Knowledge It's strong if it gets to hit the field, but not strong enough to compensate for the cost. It doesn't help us in 2 of the 3 themes of the deck but on the contrary draws hate with slow pay-off.
Bloodgift Demon Rather than having multiple ways to draw 1, focusing on pillowforting and keeping the monarch token to yourself would add consistency. A body is nice, but also a liability and lack of synergy with the rest of the deck.
Kambal, Consul of Allocation It's good at what it does, but we do not necessarily want to do that. It always universaly and equally hates on everyone, drawing hate towards you when our idea is to keep us away from the harm. Draining is nice, as long as it doesn't also drain our goals.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier Again, really good at what it does, but we need more space for cards that we need to do exactly what we want to do.
Void Winnower Strong, but really expensive for non-ramp deck and draws hate to us. Not the strong we must have.
Elixir of Immortality When a deck functions as planned and has multiple ways to win even if some get discarded to graveyard, you should be able to win before decking out.
Skullclamp Strong... but not the strong we must have.
Staff of Nin We have our economy covered as long as we are able to sustain monarchy.
4 months ago
I like it. Good work for your first deck. I'm guessing built mostly from things you had on hand.If you're interested in suggestions, I'd say focus on getting more mana rocks, card draw and wipes. And, worry less about individual removal spells and pumps. Then just upgrade creatures and lands as your collection allows.
You could probably get all the suggested cards for under $10...