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Mesa Enchantress Discussion
23 hours ago
Nice, an enchantment-based deck was indeed one of the options I considered for WB. I especially like Ajani's Chosen and bestow (and Mesa Enchantress obv). I would just reduce the number of one-ofs and two-ofs to make it more functional.
3 days ago
1.Curse of Vitality almost no reason to ever play this card
2.Martial Law doesn't scale well enough in EDH
3.Rhystic Circle isn't going to protect you enough from big swings
4.Rhystic Deluge same story. You have enough of these effects and they're are unconditional ways to do this.
7.Tempt with Reflections why?
Adds to consider:
5 days ago
Your curve is generally correct, but I feel there are a few things you can change to optimize your deck (and I'll avoid expensive suggestions, in order to keep it affordable, suiting your budget). First of all, you could consider running two more lands (Mathas surely is a cheap commander but it better suits a more controlish game plan. I would prefer to run 36 lands in this purpose. I recommend you to give a look at the Rocky Tar Pit (it's basically a budget fetchland) and Myriad Landscape. The new Field of Ruin might interest you as it's a great political tool. Forbidden Orchard also is nice and affordable. Smoldering Marshand Canyon Slough are not that expensive and can help you stabilize your mana pool. And, only if it fits your budget issues, both Blood Crypt and Godless Shrine are good investments.
The Planar Bridge, even if it's a great card on its own, doesn't really match with your objectives. It's slow and will take too much time to be effective. If the ''tutor'' effect was what you were searching when you put this one into your deck, I suggest you some cards as Increasing Ambition or (a slow but more versatile card) Ring of Three Wishes.
An idea I find interesting with Mathas will concern the addition of a sacrifice outlet. With cards like a Skullclamp and a Bloodghast (I know, it's not a budget card actually, but you can find it for something like 10 euros now that it has been reprinted - if you're looking for a budget version, you can run the Reassembling Skeleton / Endless Cockroaches), it provides you an excellent card advantage, with cards like Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar it gives you the necessary resources for the late game. Not to say that the red colour also gives you access to tons of cards which allows you to take the control of your opponents' creatures for one turn (Captivating Crew for example)! Alongside the altars, those cards could enable you to kill the creatures you put a bounty counter onto and so you will gain the reward and gets nice value while slowing your opponents. It may require some testing time but it seems pretty decent.In control options, you have Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos and Attrition that could get the job done.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death seems really good here, and I'm glad someone finally decided to give it a try! With a Cloudstone Curio, you can bounce it back to your hand and restart clearing the board as much as you want, but you will have to think about adding other valuable etb effects and recursion's cards like Phyrexian Reclamation.
Sheoldred, Whispering One is not a cheap card, but feels like a staple for your strategy and your deckbuilding.
There is a lot of cards in your actual deck build that don't feel like a good idea since they just don't match with any strategy. Let's start with the Hoarding Dragon. It's a slow tutor and I can understand why you choose to play it, but it doesn't feel like a good idea. Jaya Ballard, Task Mage : the hate cards are bad because they often feel too situational and becomes dead cards. Even if Jaya provides you other options than the hate the blue guy one, she stays bad in comparison with other cards you could play (not saying that about expensive cards - even for a budget deck, she's just bad - cut it). Kulrath Knight doesn't do much in your deck... I mean... it's not such a bad card but come on, you want to pay 5 mana on something else than just a flying lil' body with wither. Kozilek, the Great Distortion is a great card, but it feels too slow here as you don't play anything to ramp, and, more important for your deck, it doesn't match with anything. If you absolutely want some eldrazi there, so add in some ramp cards and play Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, it will be much more efficient and synergize better with what you want to accomplish. Only 10 enchantments is not enough to get value from your Mesa Enchantress. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is slow and doesn't do much. Shunt feels too situational. Righteous War is far from being interesting here, you will always prefer having Swiftfoot Boots over them... and I don't even know if you need those boots... no, I'm pretty sure you're fine without. Celestial Dawn doesn't do much and you will most of the time pay 3 to do nothing...which is bad.
A few suggestions :
Endless Whispers could be funny and fits very well the political theme!
Afterlife is a control tool which also left your opponent with a creature, it's nice not to make enemies.
Descent of the Dragons another control tool leaving your opponents with creatures. If your prison theme is strong enough, this card could be a staple as it puts 4-4 flying. Your opponents will slowly kill each other.
Disrupt Decorum mad flavorful card for a mad Mathas dude.
Besmirch not the best card ever, but could be interesting there.
Mogg Infestation lul
Chaos Warp doesn't kill your target, but it's still a really good and versatile answer.
Sarkhan the Mad look at the -2! (you will need a lot more protections if you go for it though, and chose to go for a lower curve (which is not such a bad idea btw))
Painful Quandary just a powerful and annoying control card - beware, it often attracts a lot of hate.
Solemn Simulacrum helps you to stabilize your mana base and gives you card draw.
I hope it would help you! Good luck with the deckbuilding and keep up the good work. :)
1 week ago
Well for starters, 3 of the 6 enchantress effects are "may" triggers; Verduran Enchantress, Mesa Enchantress, and Kor Spiritdancer (which you aren't running, probably for the best with relatively few auras). For seconds, are you seriously milling out against other players? I've fishbowled the deck near a dozen times and, assuming no removal disrupts it, it seems to "go off" around turn 7 and is still a solid 5 turns away from actually decking itself. That's pretty normal for a not-super-competitive deck. Even a casual deck should be able to combo out by turn 12 if left unmolested; that's a REALLY long game.
This is one of those cases where your opponents really should be keeping you in check. I mean, the deck has (had, at least, I swear Eidolon of Blossoms was in there earlier) 5 draw engines and as many ways to fish them out, that's pretty light. And all but one of those engines are wrath fodder.
3 weeks ago
Vow of Duty and Vow of Malice are next to useless on Karona. Yes, they prevent her from attacking you, but vigilence and intimidate provide little added utility. I would consider instead adding some more efficient tutors and Armadillo Cloak (since, unlike lifelink, the cloak allows you to be the recipient of health).
Otherwise, you have a very, very high curve, and little in the way of win conditions. I think you should cut a large number of your larger, more flashy cards, and focus on the early game. I also think you are a bit too kind to your opponents, and grant too many boons (many of which seem to benefit them as much, if not more, than yourself). Unlike wizzard90, I do believe in the power of a good prison deck; but I do agree with the statement that they are not infallible.
Here are some suggestions:
Copy Enchantment provides wonderful flexibility.
Darksteel Mutation, Imprisoned in the Moon, and Song of the Dryads are excellent removal spells, as they can permanently cripple an enemy commander (they do not result in a zone change, so your enemy cannot bounce their commander to the command zone).
Ethereal Armor is incredibly strong in an enchantment-based deck.
Sylvan Library is a fantastic card.
Defense of the Heart is great, particularly as you have several high-mana targets.
If you are curious, here is my take on an enchantress Karona deck: Pinball Wizard - Karona, False God EDH. Unlike your Group Hug plan, I use her as a Voltron commander, but you still might find some enchantment-based cards that tickle your fancy.
3 weeks ago
So if I added Sram, Senior Edificer changed about 7 enchantments to auras then Sram would have 14 ways of drawing cards. That's not bad either. Mesa Enchantress currently has 21 ways of drawing cards. The Vanquisher's Banner has 21 ways to draw cards too. And the Well of Lost Dreams has many ways of drawing.
PS yes some cards are expensive so I don't have them in here. And some cards you suggested I had in and took out like Angelic Arbiter
3 weeks ago
This ended up being really, really long...so if it's TL;DR or you feel too critical, feel free to delete it (I wouldn't even complain at this point). Hard to really see this as an "Enchantress" deck while only being able to use Mesa Enchantress and NOT including a Serra's Sanctum to boot. Much more simply an Enchantment heavy Angel deck, which I definitely approve of since I love both Enchantments and Angels, but the title is misleading.
Enchantress is a deck centered around the Enchantress triggers of Argothian Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Enchantress's Presence, Eidolon of Blossoms; and if you're adding a color, you add White so you can use Mesa Enchantress and Femeref Enchantress. Without this core, it's not Enchantress.
As for the rest of the deck, it looks like it should be able to hold its own, but would probably improve with some cheaper Angels or more ramp. I used to run Voltron Akroma, Angel of Wrath and had to use tons of mana rocks just to make it playable. Akroma also cost 5WWW to get the FIRST time soooo....yeah...
Angels:Serra Avenger, Angelic Page, Emancipation Angel, Seraph of the Sword, Sustainer of the Realm, Angel of Condemnation, Seraph of Dawn, Blinding Angel, Herald of the Host, Angel of Sanctions, Angelic Arbiter, Angel of Serenity, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Resolute Archangel, Archangel of Thune, Baneslayer Angel, Serra Ascendant, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Iona, Shield of Emeria.
Enchantments:Serra's Blessing, Brave the Sands, True Conviction, Righteous Cause, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, Endless Horizons, Spirit Loop, Karmic Justice, Nevermore, Seal of Cleansing, Sphere of Safety, Spiritual Focus, Starfield of Nyx, Worship, Moat, Test of Endurance
Rocks/Ramp:Land Tax is pricey, but the best mono white land grabber in the game.Gilded Lotus, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Manalith, Fellwar Stone, Spectral Searchlight, Darksteel Ingot, Mind Stone, Thran Dynamo, Pristine Talisman, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Explorer's Scope, Thunder Totem, Marble Diamond.
Other:Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Howling Mine, Demystify, Disenchant, Fragmentize, Forsake the Worldly, Fumigate, Aetherflux Reservoir, Approach of the Second Sun, Faith Healer, Grand Abolisher, Open the Vaults, Replenish, Second Sunrise, Oketra's Monument
A number of these are pretty pricey (and definitely out of my price range) but as someone who plays White in every format he plays, a Tribal player and an Enchantress player, I can go on and on and on about these kinds of decks...This deck happens to have a White-centric tribe and is Enchantment based. XD My apologies.
1 month ago
Since you seem to be going full combo, I'd run the full 4x Idyllic Tutors. Idyllic Tutor lets you run 1 copy of certain enchantments, yet still get them on the board reliably. You clearly have too many cards in the deck, so that's something you'll want to consider while cutting down to 60.
Leyline of Sanctity is a sideboard card. I'd remove all 4 from the main deck and add them to the side board.
What's Troll Ascetic doing for you? Just a hard to remove creature for Worship? Probably not worth running any tbh. Speaking of creatures, I'd drop -2x Courser of Kruphix and -2-4x Herald of the Pantheon. Herald seems good, but Arbor Elf+Utopia Sprawl is such a good mana engine, he just isn't necessary. I'd also consider adding in 2x Mesa Enchantress to ensure you get your draw as consistently as possible.
Since you're running 4x Idyllic Tutors, you only need 1x of each of your win-cons. -1x Starfield of Nyx, +1x Luminarch Ascension. I'd also consider a single Authority of the Consuls, as it can help against aggro and the passive life gain can help quite a bit. Good tool to have available for tutoring. 1x Heliod, God of the Sun is a pretty solid win-con, as it's ability can help you fill your hand while giving blockers/attackers. She comes online as a creature quite reliably in this type of deck as well.