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Soldevi Adnate Discussion
1 month ago
MediSyntax you know the judge promo is only like $150 at most?
I've been testing and I've managed to some conclusions. Firstly: walking ballista is turned off entirely by both Null Rod & Stony Silence . Crypt Ghast is a much more efficient win condition (extort triggers via excess mana & casts w/ Gravecrawler ) as it condenses the win condition to being part of cards which are useful in of themselves.
Some dead cards: Mindslicer & Dark Deal - unless you have a Waste Not out, these cards do next to nothing - there are a few great replacement options which will help to steer this deck in the right direction:
Diregraf Colossus is a 3 mana zombie who functions as an alternative to bridge from below, while keeping most of the combos still working - I've often found that I am left just needing BFB in my yard, or worried that an opponent will sacrifice / Flash a creature to exile it.
Mausoleum Secrets is a fantastic tutor which I've been caught with in hand only once when I was unable to use it. More often than not it's an instant-speed Demonic Tutor , though it'll mostly never fetch Razaketh, the Foulblooded .
Thornbite Staff lines are... weak. But they do function! The difficulty faced is that you end up paying 8 mana for TBS & to equip it to a 2 mana Priest of Forgotten Gods or Soldevi Adnate - at the huge mana expenditure it's wholely useless otherwise.
Pitiless Plunderer is quite possibly a must-have include for the deck - the number of times I've been able to reanimate it more cheaply than it would be to cast phyrexian altar is nuts & it's all too often that there's a sac' outlet in play.
Liliana, Untouched By Death is bad. I often times end up discarding it, due to greater options being available, but it does make for another win condition in the case that GC gets exiled, so a maybe in more reactive metas.
Midnight Reaper is a zombie who draws every time something dies; while it deals damage to you is unnecessary (since you could run a non-zombie variant of this card at the same mana cost & stats) I find that it puts in enough work to be considered worthwhile.
The following cards feel like they're left over from the fun deck that this may have used to be: Rings of Brighthearth , Basalt Monolith , Smallpox , Pox ; Some of the current options I'm running are found above, along with Imperial Seal , Grim Tutor , Rain of Filth & Priest of Gix .
In a real game this list seems to want to beat the creature meta. Goldfishing, Lili puts out consistent turn 6 or sooner wins. But in cEDH pods up against the likes of flash-hulk najeela & Tazri food chain the deck doesn't often get a chance to shine. It feels often that instead of speeding up, maybe this should look more like a stax deck when it's finalised.
Culling the Weak is a fantastic idea! I'll try that out too!
1 month ago
MediSyntax I've been playtesting this many times over and have found there to be some great lines of play (even without including lion's eye diamond) - the deck could even be made to fit a reasonably low budget!
With regard to Carrion Feeder - often I feel like the deck needs another sacrifice outlet & I don't have the tutor capacity to get Phyrexian Altar , play it & win in one turn, but carrion feeder is wonderful - so I may take up that idea of using Phyrexian Ghoul for added consistency.
Furthermore - after a week of testing: Liliana, Untouched By Death does enable some comboing wins with zombies other than Gravecrawler ... but I feel like casting GC from the yard is not actually the issue. I believe that the resilience of Bridge from Below is ok at best - the fact that any other deck running a sacrifice outlet, or even Flash can stop the entire combo by removing it is very risky. Conversely - the ability to do the same by using Diregraf Colossus adds greatly to the consistency & backup plan for the deck (plus - this will 99% of the time enter with +1 to block tymna).
I've found the swings with Mindslicer to be absurd - as the game immediately becomes topdeck for 3+ turns. However at the 4 mana slot - I'd consider running Imperial Seal sooner, or Grim Tutor (as a lot of the time I find that I -NEED- the cards on time).
Lastly, I've been testing out Thornbite Staff as a combo option with Soldevi Adnate / Priest of Forgotten Gods - it's very mana intensive, but with priest & the usual GC & bridge setup it's a win, while also drawing you cards. This is... ok. Not great - but not awful. It's more than likely that I'd cut the Thornbite Staff for another ritual of some form / a tutor / artifact ramp, as the mana in here feels like it could use either a Mox Diamond / a little more.
Further testing to follow - let me know your thoughts.
2 months ago
Hi MediSyntax, you make some great points - and some less great points. Though I think that Plaguecrafter is a strict upgrade from Fleshbag Marauder in 99% of cases, I'm lead to believe that in this one instance - it's less effective. Solely due to the fact that one can still cast Gravecrawler while it's in play. I'd probably include it, but there aren't many flex-slots - not even a Merciless Executioner or Innocent Blood that fill the same role.
Running Liliana, Untouched By Death is strong - especially with the rest of the build. Being able to sacrifice and recast other 1-drops as alternative combo pieces is awesome - 10/10 suggestion.
I also want to mention Pitiless Plunderer as it's a mana more than Pawn of Ulamog - but makes coloured mana when any of your creatures die - which means that it's a recurrable creature version of Phyrexian Altar as long as you have carrion feeder or something out (also it blocks Tymna).
Doom Whisperer is cool - but given you need to sit at a cozy 20 life for Razaketh, the Foulblooded it's a tough squeeze - though I might place it over Void Winnower since digging through the top 20 is much more pro-active than locking out some cards (worth testing - maybe board for sure).
Mausoleum Secrets could be cool with some testing - I'm building a version similar to this atm. My best question is what would you cut in order to include this (sometimes functioning) tutor? The main gripe is that with Rest in Peace or Leyline of the Void in play - the card is turned off.
Furthermore, an interesting include that came to me is Thornbite Staff - with Soldevi Adnate (and with Priest of Forgotten Gods) and Gravecrawler - you have another copy of Phyrexian Altar. Granted it requires more mana and setup than Phyrexian Altar, but if you don't want to use paradox engine to achieve the same effect with sacrificing and replaying Gravecrawler, then this is the next best thing.
4 months ago
You should add all mana-generating creatures. Why not? It faster Shirei and then more mana each turn.
4 months ago
Abnormal Endurance, Shade's Form, Supernatural Stamina, Unhallowed Pact and Undying Evil would all save you mana getting your commander back in play. You might also consider Basilica Screecher and Syndicate Enforcer since you need life gain. Soldevi Adnate could be a good mana and sac source.
Also, there are many different combos you can play in PDH, Ghostly Flicker combos just have the most consistency and least number of pieces.
6 months ago
@DiggleMcGee, thank you for the suggestions. I did add a Thornbite Staff to the mix. Its just too good. I do like Soldevi Adnate, and he would pair nicely with my Priest of Yawgmoth as another mana-dork/synergy option.
I do like Haunted Cloak, and Marionette Master has been under consideration for some time. Do you have suggestions on what I should cut to make some of these additions? I'm very interested in your suggestions. Thanks for taking a look.
6 months ago
How do you feel about something like Soldevi Adnate? Its not exactly an early drop but you can get free artifact creatures with a Mycosynth Golem. I noticed you have a longbow how about getting a second support equip like Thornbite Staff or Scythe of the Wretched. A Haunted Cloak gives you access to a bunch of really nice keywords that lets glissa use the death touch trample combo and easily swing and defend the turn she comes out. Finally, Marionette Master can be a very powerful win con. If you put all the counters on her you can do 4 damage to all opponents on every artifact death which gets out of control very fast
8 months ago
Thanks for the response.
One last suggestion, bit of my personal super-spicy-super-secret tech for you in Soldevi Adnate, it is half a joke, but a pet card for sure~
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