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|From the Vault: Dragons (DRB)||Rare|
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Kokusho, the Evening Star
Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
When Kokusho, the Evening Star is put into a graveyard from play, each opponent loses 5 life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
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Kokusho, the Evening Star Discussion
1 day ago
I too have enjoyed this list, though there are a few things I would like to possibly suggest, what with C17, HOU ect ect
Hammer of Nazahn - First and foremost: Additional indestructibility for a creature. Second: Equipment that gives a boost. Third, and probably most importantly: another Sigarda's Aid type effect. Hammer can auto equip to a creature, and whenever more equipment enters, it can pop onto them as well (as long as you can target them!)
Crested Sunmare - You had described getting life on other people's turn; what better way to "weaponize" it or "get out of control" than to get an indestructible 5/5 at the end of each of the turns? Even if they board wipe, you STILL have an army of 5/5's (the way the game sees it, if you board wipe, everything has a "destroy" effect on it, and the horses still have indestructible during resolution, meaning you love everything BUT the tokens you made). This gives you the ability to block (lets say you swing a creature with life link or have a creature enter with a Soul Sister out) after swinging a creature or just to begin getting a huge army!
Kokusho, the Evening Star - I like Noxious Gearhulk, but part of my "concern" is flyers. With your list specifically, you have about 4 flyers and no Ghostly Prison like effects. Sure, its a life gain deck, but that still doesn't help if its all flying or an army of Craterhoof Behemoth buffed creature's are attacking all of us. Kokusho, the Evening Star also synergizes with Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, being able to sac him to not only gain life/exile something, it will also be able to drain opponent's for life, EVEN if we can't gain life. People won't necessarily want to attack with him out either, cause based on what I've seen there are quite a few ways to recur creature's here.
Ajani Steadfast - Maybe its just me, but I like the idea of Ajani Steadfast. Not only does it give +1/+1, Vigilance, First Strike AND Lifelink (again, assuming we can target our creatures), but it can also be used to put counters on ALL of our creatures (even IF we can't target our Karlov or other creatures). The Ult is pretty game winning, but I dunno how often you'll get there tbh.
Cast Out - You had mentioned using Return to Dust to be able to exile what you need or if something like Erebos, God of the Dead is copied or stolen from you, Cast Out is an instant speed use to be able to get rid of said object. In a pinch, you can also Cycle it. Can also have GREAT synergy with Treasury Thrull, since you can cycle, attack, and bring it back to your hand and STILL have the ability to cast it later on. Return to Dust IS a great card. But the problem is it only target's artifacts and enchantments. Sure, if you cast it on your turn you can get two things...but you are likely wanting to do it at EOT before you untap anyway. And, if they steal your Erebos or anything and blow up the Cast Out, all of the abilities "return it to its owner's control" (since cards never really remember who "owned" them. Sort of like Marchesa, the Black Rose.)
I think a new card that can REALLY shut down the deck, without even stopping the "life gain" part of the deck itself is Solemnity. This card just HOSES Karlov's "control" strategy and "Voltron" (in the sense of him getting out of hand) strategy. Stops your Archangel of Thune, Sunscorch Regent and, as mentioned, Karlov himself. Might not seem like much, but basically your commander is now a vanilla 2/2 that is likely going to be dealing smaller amounts of damage to try and kill that player that played Solemnity, or you will be getting rid of it ASAP.
An interesting couple of cards in the deck that I'm curious about, starts off with Leonin Shikari. I can understand the idea and synergy with Lightning Greaves, since you can just "counter" any "targeted removal" cards, but beyond that, is it really needed for other things like Sword of X and Y, Boots/Cloak and Warhammer? I am just curious how it has performed and if it really is worth an inclusion.
Umezawa's Jitte - I can get behind it, but I'm wondering if it's really worth the price tag. As mentioned, Solemnity turns it off quickly, and the creature has to deal damage (yes, I understand it is easy to do, but not if they sac it in response to damage or anything). I can also get behind picking off utility creatures, and the ability to tutor it up with the equipment tutors in the deck, but wouldn't Whip of Erebos be more..."explosive"? Karlov likes having multiple triggers of lifegain right? So Karlov with Jitte, getting two counters each time you remove counters, or blocking or even attacking with, lets say 2-3 creatures, you immediately just add 4-6 counters. Additionally, the recursion effect could be something you REALLY need to do. You recur Ayli so you can Vindicate something so you can gain life or can go off more easily. You can't get that same effect with Jitte.
Tragic Arrogance/Cataclysmic Gearhulk - These ones really through me for a loop. You really want to try and keep your board presence, so why would you get rid of the most of it? Fumigate gives you something else in addition to board wiping, but these two cards don't stop Karlov from being sacrificed. As well, if you got your Greaves and Swords and stuff out, I wouldn't want to lose them, unless its a "I need to wipe the board or die" sort of thing (like you are going up against a Daretti deck and you just gotta get rid of all of the artifacts or you die, or Breya player is tapped out without a way to counter your spells). I can get behind cards that help with the "voltron" strategy, but I just feel like it would be better to make Karlov and a Soul Sister or something else important indestructible, then board wipe and still have a bunch of things and can swing in. Sort of like an In Garruk's Wake, but you lose some things too.
I'm curious what your thoughts on the matter are and to hear a good discussion!
6 days ago
I second the suggestions of Blood Artist and Nim Deathmantle. Deathmantle would let you loop lots of etb creatures, dealing tons of damage off of Gray Merchant of Asphodel or Kokusho, the Evening Star, and Blood Artist just gives a lot of chip damage throughout the game, as well as helping in combo kills.
Having some of your important effects on creatures is really good with Meren to recur them. Viscera Seer and Carrion Feeder are some great cheap sacrifice outlets on a stick, and Phyrexian Delver is a great piece of recursion.
6 days ago
As someone who has 3 decks that use Kokusho, the Evening Star (At the time of writing), Im totally fine with proxies as long as the owner of the deck has proved he actually owns one copy of the real card, or a majory of the group can speak on his behalf. Its one of the reason I want to get into making proxies. I own a Doubling Season in my Rhys the Redeemed deck, double sleeved and all. But I REALLY want to proxy it due to the fact it may get stolen easily, something spilled on it and the liquid seeps into the sleeve, or it gets destroyed by some salty player. Id rather just prove I have it and keep it locked away in a box back at home than hauling pricey cards around.
I also only buy one copy of a pricy card and swap them around and being able to proxy three Kokushos saves me from searching one duck, pulling the dragon and other cards, making sure i have them all, leafing the new deck I want to play, and then the shuffling and mulligans. As opposed to just shuffle/mulligan and go.
Plus I would feel a lot more comfortable letting others people play my decks if I knew that if something could get unplayable if it was a proxied .10 cent foil as opposed to a $50 card or something that has sentimental value.
1 week ago
Primeval Titan is banned in EDH.
1 week ago
First I recommend taking out: Havengul Runebinder, Cemetery Recruitment, Undead Alchemist, Nantuko Husk, Geralf's Masterpiece, Geralf's Mindcrusher, Ashes of the Fallen, Perpetual Timepiece, Secrets of the Dead, Ancient Excavation, Murder, Compelling Deterrence, Liliana's Mastery, Obelisk of Urd, Graf Harvest, and Zombie Infestation, Ghoulcaller's Chant,
Cards that you should put in: Gravecrawler, Gravespawn Sovereign, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Grave Pact, Unholy Grotto, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Living Death, Cryptbreaker, Death Baron, Phyrexian Reclamation, High Market, Corpse Harvester, Balthor the Defiled, Reassembling Skeleton, Skullclamp, Grave Defiler, Graveborn Muse, Zombie Apocalypse, Crypt of Agadeem, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Reliquary Tower, Bojuka Bog, Diabolic Intent, Patriarch's Bidding, and Demonic Tutor.
If you are really trying to stay Timmy with the deck, then I won't recommend Phyrexian Altar because it goes infinite with Gravecrawler and any kind of death/ETB trigger, but then again, it does it with Rooftop Storm and a sac outlet too.
Other cards that can be really good in zombies include: Sheoldred, Whispering One, Corpse Connoisseur, Zombie Trailblazer, Twilight's Call, Geth, Lord of the Vault, Demonic Collusion, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Scourge of Nel Toth, River Kelpie, Phyrexian Arena, Attrition, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Burnished Hart, Disciple of Bolas, Harvester of Souls, Damnation, Rune-Scarred Demon, Phenax, God of Deception, Beacon of Unrest, Corpse Augur, Palace Siege, Infernal Caretaker, Contamination, Plague Belcher, Vengeful Dead, Dread Wanderer, Boneknitter, Grimoire of the Dead, Pontiff of Blight, Custodi Lich
4 weeks ago
It'd be interesting to run an enchantress package with the number of enchantments you have. Cut some fat dragons/bad enchantments and artifacts for:
- Argothian Enchantress / Mesa Enchantress / Verduran Enchantress / Enchantress's Presence / (maybe) Femeref Enchantress
- Mirari's Wake or Dictate of Karametra or Heartbeat of Spring (or Zhur-Taa Ancient or Overabundance if you're edgy)
- Burgeoning + Exploration + (maybe) Manabond
Otherwise I'd run the most color-useful signets for fixing and Fellwar Stone. Amulet of Vigor if you really want to keep running taplands. Commander's Sphere and Darksteel Ingot are pretty mediocre. Don't know about Herald’s Horn.
Dorks to consider:
On theme and maybe useful:
- Dragonmaster Outcast
- Balefire Dragon
- Dragonlord Dromoka / Dragonlord Silumgar / Dragonlord Ojutai
- Kokusho, the Evening Star
- Mirrorwing Dragon
- Thundermaw Hellkite
- Kargan Dragonlord (just a neat card)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Arcbond is a kinda janky field wipe. Living Death can be much more devastation to your enemies than that. Potentially... How much do you rely on swinging usually? You seem really close to just not caring. Pull out the Haste set, and a couple swinging matters, then add Graft creatures (Vigean Graftmage and Novijen Sages for example) and you can run your stalling mechanics every players turn. Your mana curve remains mostly the same, just shifts slightly more blue than red. Kokusho, the Evening Star gets to stay because he doesn't care about swinging at all, you just abuse his death effect.