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Enchantment — Aura Curse
Enchant player Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under enchanted player's control, that player loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
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Trespasser's Curse Discussion
5 days ago
I love how you've refined the deck. It plays a lot more streamlined and consistent, so excellent job ncjhou.
1) I definitely agree with your choice of cantrips. Opt really helps smooth out your draw, and the scry is a definite bonus. Before Ixalan I used Censor (for cycling) but Opt is even better.
2) Alright, I'll be curious to see this deck transition from standard to modern.
3) I think I would switch out 4 Ammit Eternal to transition in 2 Death Barons and 2 Lord of the Accursed.
4) From my experience, Trespasser's Curse is actually worse than it seems. Against token spam decks, if you can get it out early enough, it does massive damage. But if you're drawing it in the later game, it's kind of useless. In the sideboard, I personally try to avoid cards that are only good at a specific point (that's why I hate Leyline of the Void and Leyline of Sanctity). But, at the end it's your decision whether to keep it or not.
5) I would probably agree, but I use Blink of an Eye rather than Consign most of the time.
6) I'll look into replacements for Vraska's Contempt, but my other two suggestions don't work in the colors. I normally use Dreadbore and Terminate, but those aren't in the colors so let me look into something else...but to be truthful, just bouncing a creature/planeswalker to their hand and countering it when it enters the battlefield normally work for me.
About the sideboard: Leyline of the Void and Leyline of Sanctity are good against certain types of decks. Fulminator Mage is very useful in the sideboard.
Otherwise, I have no other suggestions. Keep building and tweaking!
This deck could become very standard/modern competitive, so nice edits, ncjhou. -magicsheep
6 days ago
magicsheep, Here is what I came up with after getting rid of the red. I feel this deck is alot more focused than it was before. I agree with you regarding a cantrip to get me to The Scarab God or an answer to something on the board. I'm going to start with Opt and see how it goes. With Opt being instant speed that would allow me to leave mana open for a counter or other removal and then cast it on opponent's end step. Plus, in a pinch, Torrential Gearhulk could cast it out of my graveyard.
I'm going to keep it standard legal until the Kaladesh stuff rotates out in a few months. Then, I'll add in 4x Underground River to fix my mana and possibly some dimir fetches/shocks if the deck is performing well and I'm having fun playing it.
As for creatures, I think Eternal of Harsh Truths may be a keeper into modern since it will deal damage whether blocked or not with the huge upside of drawing a card. I'm not so sure about Ammit Eternal, though. I think those spots will be better served Lord of the Accursed or Death Baron.
Trespasser's Curse seems like more of a sideboard card, but almost every single standard deck plays creatures and this seems like good value for a two-drop. Once Kaladesh rotates out I'll probably relegate those to the sideboard in favor of Relentless Dead.
I haven't played alot of modern (mostly edh), but I think Fatal Push would slot in well in a modern deck as cheap creature removal. I envision Consign working well as a two-drop bounce, but being able to cast the aftermath discard spell from the graveyard would be handy as well. Plus, Torrential Gearhulk would be able to cast either part of it from the graveyard.
Vraska's Contempt is where I'm a little torn. It plays fine in standard. I like that it exiles, plus it can deal with planeswalkers and incendental life gain is not a bad thing, but I feel like 4 CMC is a little pricey for for what it gives you.
Sideboard cards will likely include: Duress or Inquisition of Kozilek, Spell Pierce, and Trespasser's Curse. Hostage Taker and/or Clever Impersonator also intrigue me as a potentially interesting sideboard includes. Is there anything else worth considering for the sideboard?
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
While Metallic Mimic is cheaper, the main benefit of the banner is the card draw (as I find myself without a hand usually by turn 4). If secret salvage is used for, lets assume 7 rats, each casting for 1 due to Bontu's Monument and 5-7 more are draw to the banner it can immediately be recast allowing that to re-trigger. I haven't actually considered Trespasser's Curse, I'll playtest it!
The benefit of playing the rats particularly against control decks (mainly Approach) is that they do not have many blockers, and I have removal prior to them playing major threats. I considered trying a UB similar to your decklist however I found that a monoblack deck allows Cabal Stronghold to go off, letting me play my whole hand and get the cards back, or making them repeat [Torment of Hailfire] 30 times.
I really like some of your artifacts, I might playtest a couple too, but I really recommend putting more rats in your deck though.
Best for luck and thank you for the suggestions! :)
2 weeks ago
Metallic Mimic is cheaper to cast than Vanquisher's Banner. Secret Salvage is both expensive to cast, and you will never use it's effect fully, I would go with something like Trespasser's Curse. I think that I would drop Cruel Reality for another Gruesome Fate.
Yes, I can see that this could be fun to play if there were fewer control cards in circulation. I built a Rat Colony deck, (see Drat Rats), but have never actually tried to play it in competition - there are just too many control decks out there at the moment.
3 weeks ago
could use Dowsing Dagger , and Suture Priest
Could find a way to add black for Trespasser's Curse
1 month ago
No, not at all :DD I wanted to give you more of a feedback, but I didn't have the time at the moment.
Divest should be a really good addition to your deck, and I'd probably remove the Duress from the mainboard, or at least greatly lower the count, cause it might be a dead draw in a lot of situations (take it from a guy who's been playing playsets of Kitesail Freebooter). Doomfall is also real good hand disruption and takes care of gods. You should definitely put in some copies of Dark Bargain, cause what's a control deck without draw! Also, since you're going for control purely, Shivan Fire might be a lot better than Shock. I think you could definitely use some Noxious Gearhulk and Ravenous Chupacabra action, cause you're a bit lacking in the win conditions department (they're cheap anyway!); on that note - Glorybringer might be a good win con for you as well. Moment of Craving might be very good if you have a lot of aggro in your local meta. If you wanna do the whole curse thingie, you could put some Trespasser's Curse in your sideboard against creature based decks (btw I really don't get your sideboard). Finally, if you're willing to upgrade the deck in the longterm, I suggest you check out SBMtG's Lich's Mastery mono black control list on the youtubz for ideas and directions.
Anywho, happy brewing to you!