Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
+2: Sorin Markov deals 2 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker and you gain 2 life.
-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10.
-7: You control target player during that player's next turn.
|Have (2)||, metalmagic|
|Want (5)||rflaherty1 , Divine_Equinoxx , frumpydarrel , dcarpen , Rabu|
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|Ravnica Allegiance: Mythic Edition (RNAMED)||Mythic Rare|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Mythic Rare|
|Zendikar (ZEN)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Sorin Markov occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
Sorin Markov Discussion
1 week ago
I'd say pick better friends. When judging a planeswalker in other decks, you mainly look at the first 2 abilities and judge how protected a planeswalker is after Plus-ing or how vulnerable they are after Minus-ing and how planeswalkers can protect themselves.
Let's look at how we usually evaluate planeswalkers. Garruk, Cursed Huntsman . 5 Loyalty > Pretty Good Body that can take a bit of damage. A 0 ability isn't the best, but it makes blockers that your opponents don't want to attack into because Garruk gets bigger. -3 kills any attackers while also drawing a card. -6 Win the game with Combat Damage. We're usually going to be looking at the first and second abilities, however, as it can't be easy in all situations to get to -6
Not in Atraxa though.
The amount of loyalty that a planeswalker can get in one turn is much higher than normal, so we instead look at the Ultimates and the Second abilities mainly. A planeswalker in this deck can minus all the way and still live and generate value. Therefore, we play planeswalkers that are stronger in a vacuum
Sure, Kiora or Ajani, the Greathearted are great with creatures on the board and things to interact with, but on their own, they don't go anywhere. On the other hand, a planeswalker like Venser or Teferi may be hard to get to ultimate in a normal game but is almost a guarantee in an Atraxa deck.
For most decks, you look at how averagely the planeswalker does. For example, Jace, the Mind Sculptor . Maybe, in a game, you bounce a few things, brainstorm a couple of times, and start to fateseal. However, Jace's ultimate is very hard to get just by using his +2, so very rarely would we base his power just off that. But in Atraxa, with added proliferate, we can easily get the ultimate for Jace and basically win on the spot.
Ajani, Caller of the Pride - What creatures? Atraxa maybe, but what creatures will you have early in the game? 1/10
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Pretty OK in that it can dig for more planeswalkers. Don't play it for the Counters, you have very few creatures. Gain 100 Life would be used as a panic button, not something you should try to get to, just keep using his second ability until you find better planeswalkers. 5/10
Ajani, the Greathearted - Puts loyalty counters on things. Gives creatures vigilance, which makes them able to block and protect the planeswalkers, but there are few creatures here that block well. 6/10
Ajani Unyielding - Getting to swords something every turn is very powerful, and he digs for more planeswalker. 8/10
Ashiok, Dream Render - Why? Bojuka Bog and Scavenging Ooze are both on color here? As is Aven Mindcensor , which, if you're looking at that static ability, is WAY better because the bird can attack and has flash. It may look worse because it still lets them look at the top 4, but this is 100 card singleton, your opponents never get what they wanted. Also, the flash is super relevant because, against Ashiok, people just hold their tutors until Ashiok is gone, but the bird can come unexpectedly, basically nullifying at least 1 tutor 1/10
Jace, Arcane Strategist - Draws 1 card, but for 6 mana. Can't put counters on creatures you don't have. 1/10
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - First ability is already good, the second one can make for some pretty good locks, and the ultimate really stalls the game and lets your other planeswalkers build loyalty. 8/10
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries - Drawing 7 cards makes for a pretty good ultimate, even if he's a little hard to cast on turn 4. Very possible to draw 7. 7/10
Liliana of the Dark Realms - The worst Liliana. It doesn't do enough since everything is tied to your Swamps. Sure with Urborg, it's good, but 1 in 98 (You can't fetch Urborg because in your library it isn't a Swamp). Play Liliana, the Last Hope because EMBLEM. 1/10
Mu Yanling - The only real good thing is the minus because you only have 2 haymakers that would want to attack. The Ultimate would be good in a creature in a creature deck because it lets you attack without blockers, but this isn't a creature deck. Also, your proliferate is not fast enough to keep up with -3 every turn. Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer is cheaper and protects herself while providing extreme endgame value. 4/10
Sorin Markov - "Oops you're dead". Sorin will always -3 on the turn he comes in obviously. However, with enough proliferate, you can Mind Slaver eventually after that. As your opponent tries to claw back, you'll be able to waste all their work. 8/10
Teferi, Temporal Archmage - Pretty good Ultimate with some card selection thrown in. 8/10
Ugin, the Ineffable - Most of your colorless spells are Ramp so static is kinda a meh. However, having played Ugin Jr., the manifest ability is quite good and provides a more interesting form of card advantage. Also, in this deck, you'll be using the -3 a lot more. 8.5/10
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - The perfect planeswalker for this deck. A powerful ultimate that usually take ~3-4 turns can be done in 2 and can put more planeswalkers into play. 10/10
Venser, the Sojourner - Don't know what you'll be flickering, but it can just be anything for value and still probably be good. Extremely powerful ultimate; wins games. 9/10
Vraska the Unseen - Controls the board and, in this deck, wins the game a lot faster. Versatile removal with the -3, which can be used a lot more often. 9/10
In general, I don't think you have enough proliferate. You have 3 spells with the word proliferate and one of them is Atraxa. You do have a lot of cards that would work great with more proliferate that aren't planeswalkers. Doubling Season, Blightsteel, and Shalai would all work super well with more repeatable proliferate. As with most tribal decks (This is sort of just Planeswalker Tribal), you do need to find the balance between Creatures of the tribe and Tribal Boosters. For example, why play Rhystic Study or Enlightened Tutor when you can just play another Planeswalker or Proliferate card. These cards are there specifically for value, but the Planeswalkers and Proliferate cards are your value engines.
Planeswalkers are very powerful, which is why Atraxa is one of the most popular Commanders, so play more of them. Will Kenrith for value, Tamiyo, Field Researcher for value, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria for more value. Take a look at these planeswalkers to see what to play. These planeswalkers by themselves are incredible and win can easily win games. However, with Atraxa, things get even better
1 week ago
Appreciate the suggestions. I already own the Marsh Flats, so the plan would be to replace Terramorphic Expanse and Arcane Sanctum with Temple of Silence and some other mana generators.
I feel like I've got to add 1 or 2 more Luminarch Ascension because having only 2 has left me without it at all in some games.
Thanks for the suggestions!
1 week ago
I don't if you'd like suggestions on a budget, so I'll try to stay in the middle ground about it.
Unless you already have those laying around in your collection, don't buy Marsh Flats . They're extremely expensive, and since you're playing in a casual group there's no need to have such card. You can, instead, use Temple of Silence which is waaaay cheaper and allows you to manipulate your next draw.
Rather than Sorin Markov , who doesn't benefit your strategy at all, you can run either Elspeth, Sun's Champion , who allows you to stall by making tokens or blowing up the stronger creatures on the board, or Elspeth Tirel , who lets you gain life and can also make tokens.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
for a Aggro deck, this deck seems to have a very high cmc average. personally I would load it up with 1 drops and 2 drops and keep a few bombs (read: lords) in the deck that pump your vampire army. my edgar deck, found here: Edgar Markov, Lord of Clan Markov is 2.49 cmc average, which is very low. I do like your inclution of Athreos however is brilliant, I think I'll add him to mine as well, since he's only 3 cmc. Legion Lieutenant is a cheap and great vampire lord to include. creatures I suggest removing: Vampire Nocturnus 3 black mana is very demanding for a 3 color deck, especialy if it only buffs your creatures some of the time. Olivia Voldaren this creature is a magnet for removal and costs a lot of mana investment to be worth it. Captivating Vampire is just better and cheaper. Butcher of Malakir and Anowan, the Ruin Sage are very good if not dealkth with, but like Olivia, they are very frowned upon and you will be targeted hard when you play them, which is why I opt not to do it. instead I play small creatures then just create a huge army very quickly. you will also want a way to givve your creatures haste, like Hammer of Purphoros and Anger . if you don't have a way to put it into the graveyard just keep attacking with it until they are forced to kill it. Coat of Arms is very bad. if any of your opponents are playing trial, it buffs their creatures too, instead consider things like Shared Animosity and for protection and evasion, consider adding Eldrazi Monument which makes all your creatures indestructible and gain flying. if you really want planes walkers, I would add Sorin Markov instead of the sorin you have now for his -3 ability. when you cast him, -3 him right away putting your most dangerous opponent to 10 life right away. it also gives them another target besides you to focus on, if they don't deal with him, you +2 him again on your next turn and then the turn after that someone else is on 10 life. I hope this helps a bit or gives you some suggestions. have a look at my deck linked above if you like. I will be adding some of your things to my deck now, like Athreos.
1 month ago
2 months ago
TypicalTimmy hot garbage in the wrong deck set-up. This Demon is a badass, I mean just him with Toxic Deluge wipes the board then draw a shitload of cards. What was his thought after he played with him?
I really wish Sorin Markov was a cheaper cmc. That life total change just is too good.
Phyrexian Obliterator I really like this card and have wondered if it would work in this deck. It is good in K'rrik decks but this one is iffy. I mean the trample is great, so i could pump with shade and trample right thru.
2 months ago
Ah, fellow Vilis, Broker of Blood admirer. I swear this Demon is underrated. I told my best friend all about him and how awesome he is, and my friend insisted he is hot garbage.
Then he played a deck that runs him as the Commander. Went 3-0.
I'd love to recommend Phyrexian Obliterator , but I see what you are doing and he doesn't jive with your gameplan. However, I have two more suggestions;