|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Ravnica Allegiance: Mythic Edition (RNAMED)||Mythic Rare|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Mythic Rare|
|Zendikar (ZEN)||Mythic Rare|
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Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
+2: Sorin Markov deals 2 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker and you gain 2 life.
-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10.
-7: You control target player during that player's next turn.
|Have (3)||metalmagic , , shinbatsu|
|Want (10)||metalmustaine , Flamadiddle , Ivannorr , Halbrech , cappy_cola , Isaia , akshayvijay , AveryLane , Benkov , YaBoi4511|
Sorin Markov Discussion
1 week ago
LittleBlueHero I red the same or similar thread on the MTGSalvation and it does seem like a cool idea, but I think Wizards will stray a bit from such a dark and gloomy theme as printing 4 villains decks. Maybe 2v2 heroes and villains, but then again that does remind a little too much to the old duel decks.
As for a little side note: The recent sets (recent emm give or take 16 years :D) have tried to shift the focus on black as the main villain color towards the others, because black is more about individuality, which like other colors can be taken to extreme.
Non-black villains: Konda, Lord of Eiganjo - Stole That Which Was Taken in order to become immortal, which resulted in the Kami War Meloku the Clouded Mirror - Helped Konda with his plan, but intended to claim the entire plane for himself and the soratami.
Heliod, God of the Sun - After Xenagos, he's the second villain in the Theroes storyline. He also killed Elspeth.
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite - Currently supposed elader of New Phyrexia
Dovin Baan - Major antagonist in Kaladesh and War of the spark story lines
Baral, Chief of Compliance - murdered Chandra's father, another major antagonist from Kaladesh
Pretty much the entire Consulate from Kaladesh is white-blue aligned.
Vivien Reid - while technically not a villain she does represent a ...certain side of the green mana. (MTGWiki quotes her saying that "She wants to destroy the cancer of civilization"...ouch)
Black heroes: Drana, Liberator of Malakir - Fought on the side of the Gatewatch against the Eldrazi.
Yahenni, Undying Partisan - Fought against the Consulate in the Kaladesh story line.
Toshiro Umezawa - major protagonist in the Kami War
Sorin Markov - despite his panache and the whole War of the spark scene with Nahiri, he's still one f the three who imprisoned the Eldrazi Titans. Also created Avacyn to protect mankind on innistrad.
Lord Windgrace - Fought against Phyrexia alongside the Nine Titans. Sacrificed himself to seal a time rift in Dominaria.
There could be more examples but I can't think of any at this time.
P.S. I may have gone overboard with this much examples as is :S
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hey dude!! Just thought I'd leave my comment here.
What makes you think this is a failure? At what point is it slowing / down or failing to win. I think Muldrotha is a great commander for Sultai superfriends. Roalesk, Apex Hybrid and new Yawg have great synergy with Muldrotha on the field, and a Planeswalker, I like it a lot. A lot of people use Atraxa for the white walkers and the fact that she proliferates as a Commander, but Muldrotha's ability to recur any defeated walkers is pretty valuable too. I think it again depends on what you are lacking.
I think you could probably play even more Planeswalkers to be honest, like Sorin Markov , etc.
But yeah, where does this deck keep falling down? That would be a place to start trying to correct things.
1 month ago
2 months ago
2 months ago
Credentials: I've been playing superfriends in EDH for years, beginning with an esper SF deck helmed by Oloro, Ageless Ascetic , then adding green with the release of Atraxa, Praetors' Voice . I've played with most of the walkers currently in your deck, either in my own EDH deck or in other formats. In addition, I enjoy building and critiquing EDH decks of all varieties and strive to always be as creative as possible in my builds. These are my suggestions for your cuts:
Aminatou, the Fateshifter doesn't synergize with anything in your deck, and is remarkably underpowered unless she'd built around.
You don't have enough creatures and your deck isn't aggressive enough to care about Angrath, Captain of Chaos , Dovin, Grand Arbiter , Jiang Yanggu , or Serra the Benevolent . None of them help your planeswalker theme. None of them are powerful enough in a vacuum to warrant their inclusion.
You don't have an artifact sideboard for Karn, the Great Creator and you don't care about making things into mostly 1/1 to 3/3 creatures. You have only three artifacts in the deck that become larger than 3/3, and only one that becomes larger than 4/4, and all of your artifacts are better spent being artifacts than being creatures.
Kaya, Bane of the Dead is too expensive for what's basically just removal, and limited to creature removal at that.
Tamiyo, Collector of Tales is a more expensive Eternal Witness , you'll almost never hit with her +1, and her static effect protects you from only two cards that can make you sacrifice planeswalkers (aside from annihilator triggers).
Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Chandra, Torch of Defiance are both very strong in formats that are not EDH. Neither is very strong in EDH, and while Chandra can sometimes sneak in as card draw in mono-red or red-black decks, you've got access to better options. Jace is most of the time a too-expensive brainstorm in this format, and will almost never ult (and if he does... you've won already with any number of other planeswalkers). Neither is worth running in superfriends.
After those, we start getting to the harder cuts - these are walkers that I think could be deserving of a slot in the right circumstances, but that just aren't as powerful as some of the other inclusions you've already got - Dovin Baan is good card draw, but not much else. Ashiok, Dream Render 's lack of repeatability makes him weaker. Sorin Markov is scary, but unless you're getting aggressive... does it really matter what your opponent's life total is? Angrath, the Flame-Chained is neat. He is. He's just not... superfriendsy. He doesn't get more walkers. He doesn't strengthen the walkers you have. He doesn't protect the walkers you have, except from weaker creatures.
That's 14 cuts, brings you to 32. For the last two, pick out the top ten planeswalkers, ten that you'd never even consider cutting, and set them aside. Then look at the remaining 22, and pick out five more that you definitely want to keep, and set them aside. Then forget that you have those 15, and pretend the 17 in front of you are all you've got, and build the most powerful 15-walker set you can.
Final thoughts; your infinite combo idea is cool. But does it belong in this deck? Most superfriends decks are focused in one direction - getting out and using planeswalkers. Adding in a secondary combo will not make your deck stronger - just less focused. If you want combos to finish the game, you've already got The Chain Veil + Rings of Brighthearth + Tezzeret the Seeker + Mana Vault for infinite planeswalker activations (and infinite mana if you've got another mana rock in play). Add in Gilded Lotus for more consistency, and you're good to go.
2 months ago
GoliaRed, Thanks a lot, Ashiok, Dream Render is one of my faves in the set, can't believe I missed that synergy! That being said, I think she would be better off coming in from the sideboard against the match-ups that need it. Controlling the board is imperative until we can stabilize and assemble the combo and Ashiok does very little to help this.
2 months ago
Sorin Markov (reprinted for standard)
Sorin Markov occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%