Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
+2: Sorin Markov deals 2 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker and you gain 2 life.
-3: Target opponent's life total becomes 10.
-7: You control target player during that player's next turn.
|Have (3)||, gildan_bladeborn , metalmagic|
|Want (4)||cicely24 , Venrius , sewellenator , Foxmafox|
Printings View all
|Mystery Booster: Store Edition (MYSTOR)||Mythic Rare|
|Mystery Booster: Convention Edition (MYSCON)||Mythic Rare|
|Ravnica Allegiance: Mythic Edition (RNAMED)||Mythic Rare|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Mythic Rare|
|Zendikar (ZEN)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Sorin Markov occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
Sorin Markov Discussion
3 weeks ago
I'd drop Kaya's Wrath in a heartbeat. If you want to develop the minor life gain sub theme then Fumigate is a much better card even at 1 more CMC. It's less mana intensive + it gains life for all the creatures that die rather than just your own. I see Wrath of God in your maybes, and if you have one of those, that's a solid pick too.
Sorin Markov just got a reprint in Mystery Boosters so if you were considering adding him in, this is a perfect time to do so.
I'd also take advantage of the recently printed Talismans for these colors. Those are great ramp for the colors. Talisman of Hierarchy and Talisman of Conviction <-- Hierarchy especially consider, due to the high amount of Black mana cost in most Vampires.
Anyway, deck looks pretty solid overall! Congrats on your first build. :)
3 weeks ago
@king-saproling: Okay. Here's the situation thus far. I only need 7 Cards to be cut for the Magic Numeric that is 99 + 1. However, the Cards Below are some important pieces that can do a lot more than you think:
Before going over the list of Insane Mentality, I've some Questions needing Answers:
After some thought, I wanted to put back in the Stax/Pillowfort cards in question. Which ones?
Here are some Combos that might question several Status Quos, but are awesome IMO:
Teferi, Time Raveler + Wishclaw Talisman : Infinite Tutors w/o ever giving your opponent the Claws is very good in the Synergy Field.
Lethal Vapors + Tainted AEther : Instant Lock; but I ponder about if it is worth putting in; looks epic though...
Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Doubling Season + Ral Zarek (& other Ral Zarek Combos.): There is a good reason ol' Ral is a key player here; he can Tap, & Untap any Permanent in the same Loyalty Ability; which really helps Nahiri, the Harbinger when needing to Exile whatever in a pinch. Also, His Ultimate will not only Flip for some Heads, but also increase Aminatou's -1 Stock in some way or another. Even w/o Cloudstone Curio to bounce either Walker, you might have a good chance of winning w/o Expropriate level Game Enders.
Any of them good? There are others, but I just wanted some thought from you. Would you want to put any of this back in? I understand some are either Meh, Mana Cost Hungry, or just too expensive to cast, but w/ 7 cards left to chop, & the above including some great ideas to add upon:
Sorin Markov (?)
I'm fully aware you gave these cards the "VETO", but even here, I believe they have a good place in this deck. I think I already said enough. That said, if you want all of them in; that's a 13 card cut in some way; 12 as ol Ral #1 will be in anyway for high versatility.
So, 12 Max to cut, but 8 at least reaches 99 + 1. I'll try & find a deck of yours I could help with a Suggestion or 2, but I'd rather wait until IKORIA Spoilers Shape Up.
...i seriously owe you at least that...
1 month ago
Hey BMHKain, a creatureless deck is a cool idea. I think Sliver Queen is a great choice as general of a 5-color superfriends deck. However I do think there is too much you are trying to do in a single deck, and that might be partly why your list is currently 167 cards haha.
These are some things I recommend:
Cut any cards that have 3 of a single color in their mana costs (e.g. Sorin Markov). In 5 colors, it can be really difficult to produce 3 of one color.
Determine how you want to win. Right now the list seems to mostly depend on stax effects to stall until you can pop planeswalker ultimates. But you'll notice that while ultimates are powerful, most of them play more of a support role (e.g. draw lots of cards, remove lots of opponent's things) than a game-winning role. I think it will be easier to make cuts once you figure out your core win strategy. For example, if you want to win by assembling a token army and beating face, planeswalkers that make your creatures bigger, make tokens, or generate mana (to make tokens with your general) will be the most valuable. If you want to win with a combo, planeswalkers with draw, removal, and disruptive effects will be the most valuable.
I think if you want to include an artifact subtheme, you may want to build a 3-color deck instead of 5 in order to make room for more artifacts.
2 months ago
2 months ago
Why only 1xsorin?
Sorin, Grim Nemesis or Sorin, Lord of Innistrad or Sorin, Solemn Visitor or Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord if you wanted to splice in some White through either Duel Lands or Artifacts. Hell, a couple Lotus Field s would work even Unknown Shores could do the trick.
Also, I'd trade in Barren Moor Bojuka Bog Castle Locthwain Piranha Marsh for 4x Westvale Abbey Flip They'll never see that coming and it plays into the story of Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and since the Shadowspear is made from pieces of the Helvault you could add one of them.
Indulgent Aristocrat , Vampire of the Dire Moon , & Vampire Outcasts I would personally replace them with 3x Bloodthirsty Aerialist s but they can be replaced with Knight of the Ebon Legion , Dark Impostor , & Child of The Night for a much better effect.
2 months ago
I'd say pick better friends. When judging a planeswalker in other decks, you mainly look at the first 2 abilities and judge how protected a planeswalker is after Plus-ing or how vulnerable they are after Minus-ing and how planeswalkers can protect themselves.
Let's look at how we usually evaluate planeswalkers. Garruk, Cursed Huntsman . 5 Loyalty > Pretty Good Body that can take a bit of damage. A 0 ability isn't the best, but it makes blockers that your opponents don't want to attack into because Garruk gets bigger. -3 kills any attackers while also drawing a card. -6 Win the game with Combat Damage. We're usually going to be looking at the first and second abilities, however, as it can't be easy in all situations to get to -6
Not in Atraxa though.
The amount of loyalty that a planeswalker can get in one turn is much higher than normal, so we instead look at the Ultimates and the Second abilities mainly. A planeswalker in this deck can minus all the way and still live and generate value. Therefore, we play planeswalkers that are stronger in a vacuum
Sure, Kiora or Ajani, the Greathearted are great with creatures on the board and things to interact with, but on their own, they don't go anywhere. On the other hand, a planeswalker like Venser or Teferi may be hard to get to ultimate in a normal game but is almost a guarantee in an Atraxa deck.
For most decks, you look at how averagely the planeswalker does. For example, Jace, the Mind Sculptor . Maybe, in a game, you bounce a few things, brainstorm a couple of times, and start to fateseal. However, Jace's ultimate is very hard to get just by using his +2, so very rarely would we base his power just off that. But in Atraxa, with added proliferate, we can easily get the ultimate for Jace and basically win on the spot.
Ajani, Caller of the Pride - What creatures? Atraxa maybe, but what creatures will you have early in the game? 1/10
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Pretty OK in that it can dig for more planeswalkers. Don't play it for the Counters, you have very few creatures. Gain 100 Life would be used as a panic button, not something you should try to get to, just keep using his second ability until you find better planeswalkers. 5/10
Ajani, the Greathearted - Puts loyalty counters on things. Gives creatures vigilance, which makes them able to block and protect the planeswalkers, but there are few creatures here that block well. 6/10
Ajani Unyielding - Getting to swords something every turn is very powerful, and he digs for more planeswalker. 8/10
Ashiok, Dream Render - Why? Bojuka Bog and Scavenging Ooze are both on color here? As is Aven Mindcensor , which, if you're looking at that static ability, is WAY better because the bird can attack and has flash. It may look worse because it still lets them look at the top 4, but this is 100 card singleton, your opponents never get what they wanted. Also, the flash is super relevant because, against Ashiok, people just hold their tutors until Ashiok is gone, but the bird can come unexpectedly, basically nullifying at least 1 tutor 1/10
Jace, Arcane Strategist - Draws 1 card, but for 6 mana. Can't put counters on creatures you don't have. 1/10
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets - First ability is already good, the second one can make for some pretty good locks, and the ultimate really stalls the game and lets your other planeswalkers build loyalty. 8/10
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries - Drawing 7 cards makes for a pretty good ultimate, even if he's a little hard to cast on turn 4. Very possible to draw 7. 7/10
Liliana of the Dark Realms - The worst Liliana. It doesn't do enough since everything is tied to your Swamps. Sure with Urborg, it's good, but 1 in 98 (You can't fetch Urborg because in your library it isn't a Swamp). Play Liliana, the Last Hope because EMBLEM. 1/10
Mu Yanling - The only real good thing is the minus because you only have 2 haymakers that would want to attack. The Ultimate would be good in a creature in a creature deck because it lets you attack without blockers, but this isn't a creature deck. Also, your proliferate is not fast enough to keep up with -3 every turn. Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer is cheaper and protects herself while providing extreme endgame value. 4/10
Sorin Markov - "Oops you're dead". Sorin will always -3 on the turn he comes in obviously. However, with enough proliferate, you can Mind Slaver eventually after that. As your opponent tries to claw back, you'll be able to waste all their work. 8/10
Teferi, Temporal Archmage - Pretty good Ultimate with some card selection thrown in. 8/10
Ugin, the Ineffable - Most of your colorless spells are Ramp so static is kinda a meh. However, having played Ugin Jr., the manifest ability is quite good and provides a more interesting form of card advantage. Also, in this deck, you'll be using the -3 a lot more. 8.5/10
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - The perfect planeswalker for this deck. A powerful ultimate that usually take ~3-4 turns can be done in 2 and can put more planeswalkers into play. 10/10
Venser, the Sojourner - Don't know what you'll be flickering, but it can just be anything for value and still probably be good. Extremely powerful ultimate; wins games. 9/10
Vraska the Unseen - Controls the board and, in this deck, wins the game a lot faster. Versatile removal with the -3, which can be used a lot more often. 9/10
In general, I don't think you have enough proliferate. You have 3 spells with the word proliferate and one of them is Atraxa. You do have a lot of cards that would work great with more proliferate that aren't planeswalkers. Doubling Season, Blightsteel, and Shalai would all work super well with more repeatable proliferate. As with most tribal decks (This is sort of just Planeswalker Tribal), you do need to find the balance between Creatures of the tribe and Tribal Boosters. For example, why play Rhystic Study or Enlightened Tutor when you can just play another Planeswalker or Proliferate card. These cards are there specifically for value, but the Planeswalkers and Proliferate cards are your value engines.
Planeswalkers are very powerful, which is why Atraxa is one of the most popular Commanders, so play more of them. Will Kenrith for value, Tamiyo, Field Researcher for value, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria for more value. Take a look at these planeswalkers to see what to play. These planeswalkers by themselves are incredible and win can easily win games. However, with Atraxa, things get even better
3 months ago
Appreciate the suggestions. I already own the Marsh Flats, so the plan would be to replace Terramorphic Expanse and Arcane Sanctum with Temple of Silence and some other mana generators.
I feel like I've got to add 1 or 2 more Luminarch Ascension because having only 2 has left me without it at all in some games.
Thanks for the suggestions!