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Night's Whisper Discussion
16 hours ago
Night's Whisper is a fine card. I use it in my Pauper Deck. Batterskull has that added evasion where you can return it to your hand for . I would say the choice between that and Kalitas is a personal preference. The latter improves your Aggro matches though. Oona's Prowler is a fast clock that gets cards out of your opponent’s hand free of charge. Though Delver Flip might be a more consistent threat.
17 hours ago
Chasmolinker so for the draw slot i think im going with 2x Painful Truths 1x Night's Whisper. Truths nets me 2 cards while bones nets me 1, and bones only digs one card deeper and sense its not often I'm looking for a specific card i think the raw car advantage is slightly better. I decided to do a 2:1 split to lower my mana curve slightly, there are times that casting a 3 mana draw spell can be awkward
Zxcvbnm9182 I think thats probably ok and it'll be easier on the budget.
What do you think about dropping tas and cliche for 2x Oona's Prowler? One of the best things this deck can do is force our opponent into top deck mode with Esper Charm, prowler supports this and actually provides a decent clock
1 day ago
Thank you for the input. Have you ever tried Sorin, Grim Nemesis? Speaking by experience, it is amazing as both a late game card advantage engine and wincon.
Final Thought: Are you sure this is a Teferi deck? Having only 6 instants and no Azcanta seems like you wouldn't get quite the value Teferi could bring.
2 days ago
Needs more Rat Colony
With only 6 Relentless Rats you need half of your total number on the battlefield to even make them 4/4s. Most of the time they will be 3 mana 2/2s. You need a critical mass of Relentless Rats--at least 20. If you want to dedicate only a small portion of your deck to the Relentless effect, then Rat Colony is much better; unlike Relentless Rats it benefits from any rat you control, including Marrow-Gnawer's tokens. Pack Rat is also superior if you have many non-Relentless Rats.
Rat Colony is strictly better than Swarm of Rats. It's also generally better than Bog Rats, Carrion Rats, Muck Rats, Nezumi Cutthroat (fear isn't worth a large power loss and "can't block", especially when Marrow-Gnawer provides fear), Pestilence Rats (Rat Colony gets +2/-2 under most conditions and costs 1 less), and Earsplitting Rats (not enough graveyard/discard synergies).
I'm not sure how Shriveling Rot serves the deck.
There are two Cabal Strongholds, so one needs to come out. Cycling lands--Barren Moor, Polluted Mire, and Desert of the Glorified--hedge against land-heavy draws. Some cheap utility/value lands like Zhalfirin Void, Encroaching Wastes, Mystifying Maze, or Temple of the False God might be good over some number of Swamps too.
Phyrexian Tribute -> Scour from Existence, Unstable Obelisk. I know black is bad with artifacts, but there is a reason Phyrexian Tribute is in 55 edh decks, and the other two are in over 5000 each, and it isn't just color restriction. They cover all five permanent types instead of just one, including the equally hard-for-black enchantments. Requiring two creatures to sacrifice, Phyrexian Tribute isn't even always easier to cast, and it's effect is far less flexible.
Speaking of Unstable Obelisk, more mana ramp would be prudent, like Wayfarer's Bauble, Mind Stone, and Commander's Sphere. Bontu's Monument isn't Jet Medallion, but is still worthwhile with 27 creatures.
I don't think there are enough graveyard synergies to make Living Death appropriate.
Night Dealings is slow, does nothing if the battlefield isn't somewhat favorable, can potentially get removed, makes you reveal, and can't get lands. Razaketh's Rite and Mastermind's Acquisition tutor with no fuss. If you want slow, multi-card tutoring, Diabolic Revelation, Demonic Collusion, and Increasing Ambition are reliable options. Although none feature Nezumi in their art.
3 days ago
Why do you run Talisman of Impulse over Talisman of Indulgence? Seems like you use black a lot more than green. Also, Opt, Sleight of Hand, Serum Visions, Night's Whisper, Mox Amber, Pact of Negation, and Snap seem like a weird picks here. Opt, Sleight of Hand, Serum Visions, and Night's Whisper are sub-par draw spells that, outside of the Doomsday lines, have no real place here because they they tend to slow down the deck too much during storm turns, especially in the case of Serum Visions. Mox Amber is straight garbage here, as the only two legendary colored permanents you have in the deck are Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder, and Baral, Chief of Compliance. Pact of Negation is a terrible counterspell in this deck, as during cascade turns you want to get maximum value and reliability off of the 0 CMC slot, which is why the deck normally runs value cards like Ancestral Vision, Wheel of Fate, and Mana Crypt. Snap seems like an odd inclusion unless your meta runs a lot of hatebears, and even in that case there are much better removal spells such as Toxic Deluge.
5 days ago
SynergyBuild, thanks for the thoughtful recommendations! There's no denying that the Triskelion and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed combo is useful, and would fit nicely into this deck, but I already have it in another one of my more competitive decks. I wanted this one to be pretty casual for the most part, which is also why I avoided putting too many tutoring cards in there.
As for the 0-drops such as Memnite, Shield Sphere, Ornithopter, etc.: I'd rather focus on creatures that can generate tokens like Abhorrent Overlord, Sifter of Skulls, and Sengir Autocrat for the sac bait. Since CMC isn't an issue for Whisper, Blood Liturgist's ability, there'd be no point to include the 0-drops that would only be worth a single sacrifice, and not necessarily be worth bringing back with Whisper, Blood Liturgist to sacrifice again.
I do think that most of the cards you suggested be cut still have pretty valid reasons to be present in the deck. Most of those cards are either for spot removal Malicious Affliction, control Grave Pact, ETB/upon death triggers Kokusho, the Evening Star, discard effects Call the Bloodline, or token generation Noosegraf Mob. I mean, sure, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger doesn't really fit in the deck, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to potentially cheat out an Eldrazi titan on like, turn 4.
I could probably drop Ancient Craving for one of the more efficient cards like Night's Whisper though. I really like Corpse Connoisseur too. Diabolic Intent fits the theme of the deck, so I might swap that in for one of the other tutoring cards. Withering Boon seems pretty great too. Counterspells in black are hilarious, and often unexpected. Toxic Deluge could very well end up replacing Damnation, because you're right, it is pretty good. Just not sure if paying that much life is always worth the effect.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions! I've definitely still got some work to do on this deck.
1 week ago
I'd consider cutting red entirely for a set of Sign in Blood/Night's Whisper, possibly still running martyr of sands, using black for cardraw to maintain the value of martyr. Although with all the token tools, an aristocrats package might work too.
I like the idea of making sisters super card advantagy and grindy. Something like Thoughtpicker Witch serving as a lock peice alongside some 1 drop spam and graveyard recursion perhaps, with ranger of eos keeping it running.
Still, I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with, black has some interesting tools like Plunge into Darkness, Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Athreos, God of Passage, Garza's Assassin and Profane Command.
1 week ago
Love the deck! Only suggestion is Night's Whisper for extra card draw, 2 life doesn't hurt much in EDH.