|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Mythic Rare|
|From the Vault: Exiled (V09)||Mythic Rare|
|Masters Edition II (ME2)||Rare|
|Deckmasters: Garfield vs. Finkel (DKM)||Rare|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Rare|
|Ice Age (ICE)||Rare|
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Skip your draw step.
Whenever you discard a card, exile that card from your graveyard.
Pay 1 life: Exile the top card of your library face down. Put that card into your hand at the beginning of your next end step.
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3 days ago
done some testing. I liked Dreadhorde Arcanist engine but unholy mother of Alucard, Yawgmoth is broken in this deck. You're a token generator, his first ability is "pay 1 life, sac another creature, an opposing creature gets permanent -1/-1 AND YOU DRAW A CARD for no mana at instant speed." He's like a giant Viscera Seer on some kind of highly illegal steroids that looks distinctly oil-like. On top of this, if you can have a young pyro live to turn 5, you can hardcast old pyro, get your 2 draws and 2 tokens, sac him with yoggers, draw a third card, then unearth him, basically digging 5 cards into your deck (or 10, if you feel like spending 6 life), making 5 tokens and potentially killing a creature for 4 mana and 1 life. Yawg Dawg is pretty much a walking Necropotence crossed with Skullclamp with protection from the best creature tribe in Modern. If this were yugioh he'd be emergency banworthy, at least back before I abandoned ship there.
5 days ago
I've noticed you've got some graveyard recursion going on, and wonder if you've had Necropotence bite you in the ass or not. It's great card draw, for sure, but discarding with it on the board sucks. I find Greed and Arguel's Blood Fast Flip to be fine substitutes.
6 days ago
I've considered Cataracts, but decided that I like the thematic purity of only being able to produce black mana from my lands. I'm ok that the Cabal Coffers in my command zone isn't also a draw engine, especially considering that I'm used to playing the deck with a 9-mana vanilla 6/6 ( Reaper King ) at the helm.
Necropotence tends to be better in more efficient decks. When I can only play one or two cards a turn, it's not much better than Phyrexian Arena . Once I start going off with mana doublers, I'd rather draw cards that I can use immediately, because I may well not have access to that mana by my next turn after I put a bunch of life into the Necro. I won't deny that it's very good, but it doesn't fit in here as well as it might seem in a vacuum.
6 days ago
One Cascading Cataracts will let you actually use Golos' ability, might be useful for late game card advantage/the best thing you can do for 7 mana.
No Necropotence ?
1 week ago
UPDATE: I need 23 cards cut for the strict amount of 100. However, this time around, there will be new rules exclusive to this deck for chopping:
1: Key pieces will not be cut regardless of Binary Speech or any kind of Tongue, verbal, physical, data, or some fourth way that doesn't exist. The Key pieces are:
- Runic Repetition
- Pull from Eternity
- Squee, the Immortal , Misthollow Griffin , Eternal Scourge , & Food Chain
- Necropotence & Bag of Holding
- Torrent Elemental
- Void Maw
- Any card w/ Flashback that is especially great here.
2: I actually need some ideas for an Exile Based Doomsday Package; & all while keeping this balanced.
3: I actually wanted to revise the Landbase; Not for the 10/10/10 method, or the one I already presently have here, but from a way that I actually have not used at least twice now for Five Color.
4: I dunno if it'll work, but how does Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon work? Or is there a combo that fits this deck's purpose moreso; Exiling powerful cards just to bring them back through means of Exile Retrieval.
5: Not all the Flashback cards are good, I can acknowledge this for sure. So what aren't pulling their weight?
And that's it, actually. I'll add a Dragon, & a Maw after this post. I just need a combo for Worldgorger Dragon that complements this deck's themes, & the Doomsday Package centering on pure exile. Now I have one more job to do...
1 week ago
I'm afraid there's nothing that causes only your opponents' ETBs not to trigger. At least that I know of. If you wanted, you could use some effects like Roon or Eerie Interlude that exile your Hushwing Gryff until end of turn. There are somewhat fewer of these effects for non-creatures though.
Recurring from exile isn't super common. I'm not sure I have much to help you with there, sorry. I can suggest a few cards that otherwise fit the theme and are decent value.
The new Apostle of Purifying Light is kinda basically a better Withered Wretch.
Myr Welder plays with exile a bit and can help recur some abilities from your graveyard while exiling them. It can also grab pieces that help it combo from opponents' graveyards if the stars align. There's also Mairsil, the Pretender .
It's not exile-related, but Phyrexian Dreadnought is one of the best classic examples of amazing value except for ETB.
I don't... know exacty what you're planning on doing with Mirror of Fate, but you might want to consider Doomsday too.
A few other cards that do things with exile include Mana Severance for thinning out your deck, and Yawgmoth's Will and Magus of the Will because I am seeing a decent bit of graveyard recursion in here too. You probably already know Necropotence exists. Bag of Holding just loots and plays with exile... sort of, but you can put the cards you discard under it even if Necropotence is on the battlefield. Worldgorger Dragon is... a card. But I'm probably just delving into territory you already know about from searches now.
Also, it doesn't really do anything especially for the deck, and it's silver-bordered but I feel obliged to mention AWOL .
I love the idea for the deck. How has it been performing for you?
1 week ago
Bishop of the bloodstained (little value for a one time effect at 5 cmc) - Bloodlord Vaasgoth - Massacre Girl (Hurts you) - Anowon, the Ruin Sage (too Slow) - Tempt with Immortality (There are better graveyard cards than this and its just not good in this deck) - Eldest Reborn (Just no synergy with the deck) - The biggest issue I see if you have a lot of cards that bring stuff back from the graveyard. Vamps nor Edgar care about that truely unless that is just the route you want to go down. The only one I think you keep is Faith's Reward just in response to a board wipe, but its a dead card if someone cyclonic rifts or exiles all creatures. Your deck severely lacks card draw as well. A few vamps I suggest that are just plain good and help with draw.
Keep going with the theme you want but you need card draw to draw the cards you want, and you still want better vamps than some of the ones that are too slow or don’t really help all the vamps and cards in your maybe are amazing, and will lower your CMC too and the cards I listed above I think could also help. Good luck man!
1 week ago
The Paradox Engine ban makes sense for casual, since it lets decks do long noninfinite combo turns with low cmc spells and mana rocks.
However if the rules committee really wanted to commit to making their banlist directed at casual (meaning "ban all undercosted non-buildaround op cards"), then they would also have to hit Necropotence , Food Chain , Survival of the Fittest , Mana Crypt , etc.
Instead, they banned Iona, Shield of Emeria . Turn 1 Entomb , turn 2 Animate Dead Iona can be pretty annoying, but still, she isn't that oppressive either, not even compared to turn 2 Blightsteel Colossus .
Necropotence occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
WB (Orzhov): 0.56%
WUB (Esper): 0.69%
RBW (Mardu): 0.63%
UBR (Grixis): 0.54%