Dark Deal

Legality

Format Legality
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Fate Reforged (FRF) Uncommon

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Dark Deal

Sorcery

Each player discards all the cards in his or her hand, then draws that many cards minus one.

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Dark Deal Discussion

zero2581 on A empty hand is a dead one

1 day ago

I tried those cards in the beginning build of this deck and they didnt work but i think now I will put in Hypnotic Specter. The reason I had the Sangromancer was to balance out Phyrexian Arena. I was looking at maybe Dark Deal from your deck. Its looked like a sweet card to add and it would deal with the decks that just draw cards at a crazy rate. Thanks for the look. I appreciate it.

cdkime on Force Feed EDH

1 day ago

Couple suggestions:

  • You are going to want Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots. Nekusar can be pretty lethal, but you're also guaranteeing your opponents draw their answers. Protecting him is a necessity.

  • I would recommend running more wheel effects. Cards like Whispering Madness, Windfall, Reforge the Soul, Dark Deal, and Winds of Change can produce incredible damage while also disrupting your opponents' strategies.

  • Alongside the above, Library of Leng is quite useful--you can use a wheel effect to discard the cards you do not need, but ensure you retain the cards you will want to use post-wheel.

  • Helm of the Ghastlord combos well with wheel effects--opponents discards their card and are forced to discard every replacement they draw. This can easily win a game by locking your opponents out of having cards in-hand. Like Curiosity, it goes pseudo-infinite with Niv-Mizzet.

  • Sigil of Sleep is a great card in Nekusar, turning every wheel into a mass bounce spell.

  • I would recommend cutting Font of Mythos. Cards like this seem like they should be good with Nekusar, but I've found their lack of built-in punishment quite counterproductive.

  • Imprisoned in the Moon and Deep Freeze are strong removal cards in EDH. Unlike more traditional kill spells, these enchantments do not cause an opposing commander to change zones. As such, your opponent does not have the option of returning their commander to the command zone, so the removal spell is permanent.

  • I second kamelyan's suggestion to use infect. A single wheel effect and they're dead on the next draw step.

  • Nekusar should be focused on winning as quickly as possible once you've got him on the field. Your assorted Persuasion cards cost far too much mana and do not contribute to your primary victory conditions. As such, you should cut them from the deck.

Finally, Unmake's colour identity is Black and White--as such, it is illegal with Nekusar.

StopShot on Sidisi's Rage Quit Stax. v 5.0

3 days ago

This seems like a strong deck. If you’re looking for more removal spells I’d recommend, Go for the Throat, Victim of the night, Devour in Shadow, Sinister Concoction, Dismember, and Mutilate.

Also given you have a lot of repeatable 1 toughness creature production cards I’d recommend Skullclamp for lots of card draw. Also throwing in a Grave Pact can make that synnergy really good as well. Also single card hand disruption can be weak in EDH, I’d recommend more aggressive card discard effects like Mindslicer, Chain of Smog, and Noxious Vapors.

One last thing to note, Chains of Mephistopheles is really broken when you use cards like Dark Deal and Anvil of Bogardan. I’d consider running them as powerful lockdown synnergy effects.

Meurth on DISCARD ALL THE THINGS

1 week ago

I love that you can completely shut your opponent down right away with all these discard cards. Tormented Soul doesn't seem very good here though. I also wouldn't run Dark Deal since you don't want to lose too much of your own cards. It might be better to go for some more low mana discard cards like Divest and Lay Bare the Heart. You should definitely run Guul Draz Specter, that would be a great alternate wincondition in this deck. Shrieking Affliction could be of great help as well.

Some other discard cards that could work (but might be too expensive or not useful because you can empty your opponents hand pretty quickly already) are Scepter of Fugue and Mind Shatter.

Piebye726 on Once More With Wheeling

1 week ago

Oh my god this deck looks so fun. But some pointers: I think that this deck on its own lacks some power to fend for itself, and since you need some pieces to combo for your deck, I recommend some counterspells in your deck. Your removal choices can be a little better as Fatal Push is such a great card in almost all formats right now. You should be able to cut down on the Dark Deals and Whispering Madness cards since you will be drawing a bunch of cards anyways, so there is no need to keep that many copies of it in your deck. I think thats all I have to offer at first glance, so you can take my suggestions with a grain of salt. Great Deck!

P.S. I know you tried to make this deck on a budget but try to include some pain, shock, and fetchlands since it will help out your manabase a bunch. Also get rid of the dismal backwaters.

RedUndead40 on Waste Not The Rack

2 weeks ago

Dark Deal and Whispering Madness seem good here

Darth_Savage on b/r spicy discard

3 weeks ago

Hi downedhero,

First off welcome back. Your deck is close to two established archetypes 8 Rack and Hollow One. 8 Rack uses The Rack and Shrieking Affliction to dish out the pain along with a discard suite including Inquisition of Kozilek, Raven's Crime, Smallpox and Wrench Mind but rarely Dark Deal or Mind Rot as they are too slow for the format. The second deck I mentioned uses Hollow One and Flameblade Adept with Bloodghast and Flamewake Phoenix to take maximum advantage of your discards, for simplicities sake I'll link my Zombie Hollow one deck here and you can have a look.

As to particular suggestions, well first cut the previously mentioned Dark Deal and Mind Rot, in those five slots add 4x Wrench Mind and 1x Burning Inquiry, though you could have 4x Smallpox if you prefer. I'd also suggest you cut the 2x Incendiary Command and add one extra of Inquisition of Kozilek and Faithless Looting, or instead you could experiment with 2x Wheel of Fate or 2x Reforge the Soul. Lastly Underworld Dreams would almost always be better as another Liliana's Caress or Waste Not.

I hope this is of some help and have fun brewing your deck.

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