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Each player discards all the cards in his or her hand, then draws that many cards minus one.
Dark Deal Discussion
17 hours ago
I used to have a Nath deck! He's a ton of fun (for the pilot hehe)!
In addition to what others have recommended, you should also include Dark Deal !
3 days ago
Bedlam thank you for your thoughts, sister.
- Dark Deal does indeed make a lot of elves. I had avoided it because it let opponents draw, but you’re right that it potentially makes enough elves to almost be a wincon on its own. I’ll take another look.
- Library of Leng . I don’t have much in this deck that forces me to discard.
- ah Skullclamp . I agree it’s awesome. Which draw card would you replace though?
- Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists are table antagonizers. I’d rather have spikey discard than per turn effects. Plus those both make me discard as well. Herald of Anguish and Myojin of Night's Reach seem more appealing.
- I like the tribal buffs (particularly the draw effects) but what would you take out to fit them in?
3 days ago
The deck is rad! Here are some cards to consider:
- Dark Deal - Make a ton of elves.
- Library of Leng - Turn you "all players discard" into graveyard fodder. PLus, you'll have an infinite hand size.
- Skullclamp - Pairs well with any engine that makes 1/1s.
- Bottomless Pit and Necrogen Mists - Seem strong.
- Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , and Kindred Summons - pretty good tribal cards.
1 week ago
Chainer's game plan should be something like... Ramp > Control > Reanimate.
Focus on filling and stealing from your opponents' graveyards and protecting Chainer.
Stax: Honestly, I would avoid hard stax. It encourages your opponents to hate you and escalate their power-level.
What this deck really needs is ramp: 38-40 lands and 12-16 cards like Bubbling Muck , Charcoal Diamond , Heartless Summoning , Burnished Hart , Coalition Relic , Revel in Riches , Black Market , Magus of the Coffers , Gauntlet of Power , Nirkana Revenant , etc. Also Phyrexian Tower .
...If you want to lean into stax... here's a list for evil people :)
3 weeks ago
Hey i realise this thread is very dead, but still highly ranked which is what got me here. Im recently looking at rebuilding my own Maralen Deck, which is all sorts of asshole, and looked here for reminders about whats possible.
Just a grammatically thing:
You have referred to Dark Deal and Teferi's Puzzle Box as "wheeling". The reason TPB is so damned powerful in a Maralen deck is the way you stack triggers. TPB doesnt just put the opponent in topdecking stress, it makes them handless except if they tutor for an instant they can cast. I realise you may have already though of this, or perhaps have been told, but imma borrow some comment space just in case someone else finds this deck and isn't aware.
Making your opponents Cry a little bit
Get out Maralen of the Mornsong
Next turn, tutor for and hopefully play and resolve Teferi's Puzzle Box
During your Opponents Turn: at any time many triggers go on the stack, they are placed in APNAP order: Active Player, Non-active Player . So this means in turn order, each player starting with the Active player puts their triggers onto the stack in an order they choose, and then the stack resolves: the Active Players abilities resolving last. What we (because they are our triggers) are going to do is put TPB on the stack then put Maralen on the stack. Maralen resolves letting them tutor, and unless they can immediately cast or play the card TPB resolves making them shuffle away their hand. Unless some other ability resolves in the meantime the opponent will go into Main Phase with an empty hand.
In much the same fashion at the start of our turn APNAP happens again, everyones triggers resolve before ours - BUT- unlike during our opponents turns, we put Maralen on the stack THEN TPB, making us shuffle away our Hand and THEN tutor.
and Voila, every turn we get base 1 card during our draw step, and our opponents cry a little bit at the soft lock.
1 month ago
Hey, good looking deck, ive been enjoying tuning up meren as well, feel free to take this with a grain of salt but here are a couple things i notice that i would suggest changing
-first i notice a strong discard theme, which i can understand the temtation to just get to dip cards into the grave, unfortunatly with some of these you might be unintentionally giving your opponent card advantage with cards like Dark Deal . I prefer Fauna Shaman to get cards from hand to grave yard, cause then you can find the other half of a combo, for ex. Fauna Shaman >discard Phyrexian Devourer search for Triskelion discard Triskelion search for Necrotic Ooze play it, win on the spot, or if there is a counter just bring him back at the end of turn and do it again. Another great option is Buried Alive when i play meren against another graveyard deck it is pretty much a race to get this because many times it can cause a graveyard deck to win on the spot. Also Phyrexian Reclamation and Tortured Existence can have some awsome graveyard interactions depending on your need -next is recurgence you have some great card effects that cant really be recurged like you can with creatures so cards like Nihil Spellbomb while a good effect maybe something like Agent of Erebos could give you much more value, in a deck like this seeking out creatures to do the job of spells can be very powerfull. Another card that does a lot of work for me is Life from the Loam getting lands and filling your grave yard is great ive played it turn two with no target to value drege on t3. -lastley im glad your running Necropotence many overlook this card for some crazy reason, but i would recomend running Reliquary Tower or Thought Vessel to get some crazy value out of it, my personal favorite is Venser's Journal but some ppl think its to costy, i understand that. -Well if you read all that thanks for listening to my rant, i enjoy playing meren a lot and have tested her in a pretty competetive environment extensivly, so i have lots of opinions on her lol. Some last thoughts would be to drop: Bloodghast , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Shriekmaw and add somthing like : Viscera Seer , Phyrexian Delver , and Fauna Shaman . Any questions or anything just let me know, i like talking about meren, good luck buddy
1 month ago
Waste Not with the Sire is awesome. Better keep people drawing cards tho. Dark Deal , Burning Inquiry and Collective Defiance are in your colors. Blue offers Jace's Archivist , Windfall and Magus of the Jar .
1 month ago
Nah, best deck so far was an Esper Control variant using Aminatou, the Fateshifter , a lot for colors, but it has some good synergies. Approach of the Second Sun is the Signature Spell and win condition.
You use Pithing Needle and Sorcerous Spyglass as walker hate, and Aminatou can flicker it to name a new walker need be, or with Spyglass to see a new hand. The list runs other walker hate like Suppression Field too because Aminatou isn't super necessary.
Spellseeker , Baleful Strix , and a few other creatures show in the list ( Snapcaster Mage , etc.) with Aminatou can be pure value, but Vampiric Tutor style effects with Aminatou's +1 can get us the answers we need when we need them, and with a toolbox of the best control spells from Terminus (Aminatou synergy, and synergy with our tutors to top), Toxic Deluge , and Supreme Verdict for sweepers, Liliana's Triumph , Grasp of Fate (Aminatou synergy), and all of the other most efficient 3 for ones in multiplayer are showcased as well.
Does it seem to be the best deck? I can't find any lists that have a higher win rate.
The other contenders are Saheeli (Sublime Artificer)/Thoughtcast, with tons of artifact-storm cards.
New Jace/ Stroke of Genius , with Dramatic Reversal / Isochron Scepter and other infinite mana combos, playing some control-combo deck that uses its cards for value until it hits an infinite mana combo and wins.
Liliana of the Veil / Liliana's Triumph is a list I find pretty insane, it runs Smallpox , Pox , Chains of Mephistopheles , etc. for a fast and brutal mono-black list. Variants I have seen run Pox, Vamp Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Smallpox as the Signature spell too, but one-sided Smallpox that doesn't hit life or lands, but is an instant seems the best so far.
Want more fun?
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded and Gamble , using gamble to set up rituals, and tibalt to discard and dig for more, until you find Empty the Warrens (wincon) and even if you discard it, you then fetch Past in Flames , cast it or flash it back if you discarded it, spam through your rituals, then cast or flashback Empty and win with 50 tokens.
Dark Deal occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%