Thorn of the Black Rose
Creature — Human Assassin
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
When Thorn of the Black Rose enters the battlefield, you become the monarch.
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|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Common|
|Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Thorn of the Black Rose occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%
Thorn of the Black Rose Discussion
3 weeks ago
Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are must-runs in black, but maybe belong on your "Sideboard" for now. Diabolic Intent is also super good with tokens and might be cheap enough to run outright. Enlightened Tutor has enough targets in your deck also.
Other general bombs: Catastrophe (an incredible wipe in general, often slept upon), Axis of Mortality (wtf why does nobody run this, you should exercise your queenly authority and tell people that their life total now belongs to the crown), Solemn Simulacrum (ramp in non-green, though sadly in the same slot as your gen at 4 mana), Vedalken Orrery (surprise! always good), Exquisite Blood (biiiig time lifegain, can be a ridiculous difference maker)
Tokens: Anger, Filth (combos huge with anyone playing Urborg, or even just any black deck), Archetype of Aggression (Trample combos really well with Deathtouch, since you only need to deal one damage to the creature to be lethal and the rest of the damage tramples over), Archetype of Finality, Street Riot, Berserkers' Onslaught, Rage Reflection, Brave the Sands (Vigilance also combos really well First Strike + Death Touch, as does being able to block multiple creatures—basically a wall effect like Norn's Annex), Eldrazi Monument (very cool with token generation), Goblin War Drums, Intimidation, Mirror Entity, Nahiri, Storm of Stone (cutie Nahiri!), Radiant Destiny, Silverwing Squadron (token time), Grenzo, Havoc Raiser (Goads, pretty damn good card, seems popular in Marchesa decks), Skullclamp (big time card draw for your 1/1 tokens), Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs (another wall/token generator), Anointed Procession (double tokens!)
Other Royal Shit: Dreadhorde Invasion (creates Armies (fun flavor), tokens, Lifelink potential), Mobilized District (makes Citizen land, big flavor), Giant Killer (removal + Peasant + taps), Sengir Autocrat (SERFS!!), Righteous War (wild flavor, pretty solid evasion, gives your general Protection from Black AND White, could actually be a huge sleeper card), Stronghold Assassin (also an Assassin, obviously)
Powerful Women & Bad Bitches: Imposing Sovereign (also a Noble), Linden, the Steadfast Queen (also a noble), Agent of Masks (also an Advisor + "Aristocrats" staple), Diaochan, Artful Beauty (also an Advisor, could be neat with Hexproof lol), Masako the Humorless (also an Advisor, also fucking savage holy shit look at her), Orzhov Advokist (I know you've got it in the Maybelist, but it's so on-theme and it may or may not be better than Norn's Annex), Teysa Karlov (also an Advisor, great for tokens, you already have her other baller version), Etali, Primal Storm (I dunno, Elder, he's good), Zetalpa, Primal Dawn (same as before, also she's probably female so yeah), Massacre Girl (also an Assassin), Avatar of Woe, Silent Assassin (also a sexy Assassin), Thorn of the Black Rose (also an Assassin, themey, weak though, I suppose), Adriana, Captain of the Guard (wild with wide/tokens), angelic field marshall, Dark Impostor (also an Assassin), Danitha Capashen, Paragon, Stoneforge Mystic (big time with equipments, seriously some formats have called for her to be banned she's such a bad girl) Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Twilight Prophet (woah)
Tax/Bones: Kambal, Consul of Allocation (seriously amazing, most Marchesa decks run it, also an Advisor), Sheoldred, Whispering One, Urabrask the Hidden, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Pontiff of Blight (biiig beef, Marchesa controls the church), Wound Reflection (serious finisher, should really consider), Dictate of Erebos, Mogis, God of Slaughter, Fate Unraveler, Ankh of Mishra, Polluted Bonds (Ankh of Mishra on steroids, actually pretty broken card overall, probably should strongly consider it)
Multiplayer Shenanigans: Scandalmonger, Warmonger, and Wishmonger (wild times, probably too wild but they can be game finishers in weird ways); Varchild's War-Riders, Assault Suit, Goblin Assassin (also an Assassin), Embereth Skyblazer
Auras/Equipment: Kusari-Gama (super savage with Deathtouch), Helm of the Host (big theme on the flavor text, also a great card in general), Tenza, Godo's Maul, Angelic Destiny, Argentum Armor, Battle Mastery, Blackblade Reforged (a gen-equiping classic), Blessing of Leeches (Instant-speed free regeneration? This is another sleeper card, and it even has an amazing feminie art), Shadowspear, Colossus Hammer (kinda amazing with your gen), Embercleave, Whispersilk Cloak (you know Marches owns one of these), Fireshrieker (beefer)
1 month ago
Noosegraf Mob -> Syr Konrad, the Grim : This decision was between Noosegraf Mob and Marionette Master. Noosegraf seemed the better choice to cut since Marionette makes 3 tokens on ETB as opposed to waiting for players to cast spells. Syr Konrad is a good alternate commander for this deck and pairs well with the theme to dish out some damage.
Champion of Stray Souls -> Living Death : Tough decision since this feels like a good home for Champion of Stray Souls, but it costs so much to get out and use it's ability. I'll still try to get him in the deck, but unless I cheat him out with Hell's Caretaker or something similar his cost is hard to justify. Living Death is an all-star recursion piece and works well with Grave Pact-like abilities.
1 month ago
Some possible removals:
1 month ago
I built this deck around the power of Crypt Rats and Pestilence. Both are powerful board sweepers and can deal massive amounts of damage to your opponent. In this deck, you should be able to repeatedly use them to control the board and help kill your opponent.
Early in the game, you want to use your removal to control the board and build up your mana. If you need to, you can use Vampiric Link on an opponent's creature early as psuedo-removal since you will gain life for each damage the creature deals. Be careful because due to the wording of this card, if the creature's attack will take your life to zero, you will lose the game before you gain the life back. (When you get a chance to sweep the board with Crypt Rats or Pestilence, you will be able to permanently remove that creature anyway.)
Guardian Idol helps you ramp into your 4 casting cost spells on turn 3 or could let you play a Crypt Rats turn 3 with mana open to activate it for 1. When you play Pestilence with Guardian Idol in play, if your opponent kills the last creature in play to try to trigger the Pestilence end of turn sacrifice, you can use two mana to activate the Guardian Idol so you won't have to sacrifice Pestilence. Tendrils of Corruption and Corrupt can be used to kill creatures, but also will keep your life total healthy.
Pristine Talisman ramps your mana as well as repeatedly gains you life so you can stay ahead of the damage race since both of you will be taking damage from Crypt Rats and Pestilence. The mana from Pristine Talisman and Guardian Idol can help you pay for the colorless mana cost of Pestilence and Crypt Rats so you keep your black mana available for immediate activation. The mana ramp artifacts also help you cast your higher cost spells earlier, Guardian Idol activations, and help pay for the flashback cost of Chainer's Edict.
If have a hand full of spells but you are having trouble finding land early on, another way to build up your mana is to use the Swampcycle ability of Twisted Abomination to search your library for a Witch's Cottage, then use the Witch's Cottage to put Twisted Abomination back on top of your library to do it again next turn. This ensures you will hit your land drops every turn for several turns.
Although I mentioned using Vampiric Link as early removal, the better use of Vampiric Link is on either Twisted Abomination or Crypt Rats. Obviously, a 5/3 regenerator will be able to keep gaining you life even if they chump block. If you put the Vampiric Link on Crypt Rats, the point is not just to gain 1 life if it deals combat damage; if you activate its "X" ability to deal X damage to all creatures and players, you gain life for ALL damage that it dealt, including to itself. This combo can result in quite a lot of lifegain if there are multiple creatures in play! When the Crypt Rats dies, you can re-use it by using Witch's Cottage to put it on top of your library.
Having a Pestilence in play with a Thorn of the Black Rose or Twisted Abomination in play lets you activate the Pestilence for two damage a turn (both on your turn and your opponents turn). This lets you kill all of your opponent's X/2 creatures without losing your Pestilence. However, keep in mind Twisted Abomination can regenerate if you want to activate Pestilence more than two times a turn. If you are ahead in life or have one or more Pristine Talisman in play to keep your life healthy, these combos can end the game quickly.
5 months ago
Definitely wants Thorn of the Black Rose , but I like the shell you've got going.
9 months ago
10 months ago
4 colors and no Arcum's Astrolabe ? That's really greedy of you.
I don't quite understand why your deck is only running one Mnemonic Wall when it's essential to the deck and you can't tutor it.
Your deck feels pretty weak to removal that exiles, such as Unmake or Ob Nixilis's Cruelty , to non-elf swarm tactics (namely, goblins and slivers) and to Thorn of the Black Rose and Palace Sentinels decks. I'm not sure how you fare against burn either, as it feels like you'll probably lose pre-board and your best shot at winning post board is getting Ephemerate + Hallow + Mnemonic Wall which is unlikely to happen twice in a row.
Overall, this feels like Teachings Tron that doesn't play the Urza lands in order to play Skred effectively but lacking the access to the Urza lands means you can't make good use of Mystical Teachings as you're not floating in a pool of mana. You do, however, get rid of the Crop Rotation + Expedition Map + Prophetic Prism package that is essential to playing Tron, which leaves more slots open but I'm a bit skeptical still.
1 year ago
I don't get it but here are some good possible additions Smothering Tithe , Sphere of Safety , Anguished Unmaking , Thalia, Heretic Cathar , Grand Abolisher , and Thorn of the Black Rose . Cool list though