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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Rare|
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As Caged Sun enters the battlefield, choose a colour.
Creatures you control of the chosen colour have +1/+1.
Whenever a land's ability gains you one or more mana of the chosen colour, gain one additional mana of that colour.
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Caged Sun Discussion
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
i would chuck in a few cards such as Gauntlet of Power , Eldrazi Monument , Black Market , Reanimate , Caged Sun , Diabolic Tutor , Diabolic Revelation , Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , and my fav if youre running gisa Endless Ranks of the Dead
1 month ago
This seems like the makings of a fun deck! It has a lot going on... I'm not convinced so many strategies can be supported (tho I'm fine being wrong if you think you can pull it off). My #1 suggestion would be to dump one or more strategies to strengthen the others. Roughly in order:
- Mill. IMO this is the weakest/least supported. Recommend cutting these cards (especially since you're not playing any wheel effects).
- Card draw. Already strong, but with this commander I'd go for even more. Surprised not to see any of the X draw spells like Pull from Tomorrow . Another idea is replacing counter/unsummon effects with cantrip versions like Exclude or Drag Under .
As for mana, do you own a Caged Sun or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx ? Both are clutch in mono-color decks. Last, since you're playing artifacts, suggest replacing some of the high CMC beaters like Inkwell Leviathan with things you can cheat out like Metalwork Colossus .
1 month ago
1 month ago
your most recent reply is amazingly in-depth and it makes me think which is great considering where we already are with this deck.
If I do add Rings of Brighthearth at this juncture (vs. say, next month or whenever it is that I may have expendable funds), the most notable option I'd like to consider for a cut, right now, seems to be Black Market . Why? Well, of my redundancies you hit the nail on the head re: my priorities when you mention the use of Pact effects. I love them and sometimes feel a great need to stack a couple together (for me it's usually going to be one enchantment alongside Butcher of Malakir for the assurance that I could somewhat easily recur the Butcher). Mana "doublers" like Nirkana Revenant and Caged Sun are vital for making sure I can make the most out of things like Torment of Hailfire or a given Chainer loop. Same with Ritual effects. Banks... well, they can help enable those, but I haven't been able to make the most of Black Market yet, and while I've seen great work come from Revel in Riches , it's mostly from it outright winning the game for me directly afterwards (though there have been a good few times where I just have a ton of treasures to break bank with beyond its alt-wincon trigger). :P
As for max-handsize cards, these can be disposable, but I like the necessary lifegain from Venser's Journal (and to be frank with you, it's a pet card of mine - a gift from an old friend, in foil), and Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower are indisposable otherwise for being cheap/free, doing their function, and granting mana besides. So if I do get a Rings of Brighthearth , I think it'll be Black Market that falls by the wayside.
Let me posit one other thing while we are on the subject of Rings, though: I do currently own a Basalt Monolith ; would this be a good inclusion and what should I cut for that? It's probably going to be a mana rock if anything, although so far I'm not sure the deck even needs and/or wants this in here (personally, I'd LOVE to go infinite and get there with a Torment of Hailfire for exorbitant mana, but this deck has gotten by very far without going infinite, save for Zulaport Cutthroat or Blood Artist + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + Wurmcoil Engine or Abhorrent Overlord - that said, if I added Rings of Brighthearth and removed Black Market , are there any infinite combos I'm clearly missing which would be facilitated by the Rings?). Honestly curious - I'm generally pro-combo. haha
1 month ago
Hey GHOST_SCKOPE, great deck! Looks like you're going with a lifegain/token/boardwipe theme, right? I've got an Odric, Master Tactician deck that runs in a similar fashion. You might want to consider his inclusion, since he is a soldier, and his ability to choose blockers can be incredibly advantageous.
Eldrazi Monument seems like a solid addition as well, provided you have enough fodder for the cost each turn. Akroma's Memorial is another option for beefing up your dudes. With all of the token generation, you may want to include Divine Visitation , because 4/4 flying angels are better than 1/1 walking soldiers. Hero of Bladehold gets pretty out of control if none of you opponents take care of her quickly either. May be worth the consideration. I've found that Evangel of Heliod can be amazing for creating tokens when you have enough white devotion. If you like soldier tokens, Brimaz, King of Oreskos is great for making them. They may be cat soldiers, but I don't discriminate. If going wide is your strategy for success Crusader of Odric is a good backup plan, since it'll likely be pumped up with all of your other tokens. I see you have the Soul Sisters in the deck, as well as some others that are similar. Have you considered adding Anointer Priest ? Sure, it only counts for tokens, but that doesn't seem like it'd be an issue in this deck.
I'm not seeing a Mirror Entity in your list, which is a great addition to a lot of these kinds of decks. Might want to consider finding a slot for him. Card draw can end up being an issue for me in mono-white. Have you thought about including cards like Slate of Ancestry and Alhammarret's Archive ?
How is your mana base treating you? I usually play with fewer lands than I should, so I make excellent usage of cards like Land Tax and Sword of the Animist . I see you have Knight of the White Orchid , but that may not always cut it. On the subject of mana, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is, in my humble opinion, an excellent card for almost any mono-colored deck. I see you have the Caged Sun in the deck. If you were interested in including backups, you could add the Gauntlet of Power , and the Extraplanar Lens , as well as Doubling Cube . Mana for daaaaays!
The last suggestion for a possible addition would be Evra, Halcyon Witness . The card is great for swapping your life total with its power to kill an opponent, if your life total is high enough. I know it doesn't really fit the rest of the deck, but the life total trick is worth it when it gets pulled off. Overall it seems like a really fun deck to play! Hope the suggestions help out!
1 month ago
Well I think since you are doing a mono colored deck and with all the mana Neheb could generate on its own I would recommend Caged Sun or one of the other artifact mana doublers. Maybe a Whispersilk Cloak would do him some good to give him some protection and make him unblockable so he can always get that damage in and not worry about getting killed.
1 month ago
Hey thrane, thanks for the suggestions. Also, I agree you're right on the land count and that is why I added 3 more lands, even with several mana doublers like Crypt Ghast , Magus of the Coffers , Caged Sun , etc I didn't think it was enough either and so I cut some cards.
As for those suggestions Chainer, Dementia Master is one I have certainly been thinking about already and I may try to make room for him likely the most. As for the others I will consider them in time too, but there's quite a few cards I'm looking to still add to here so they may or may not all be added.
This deck I'm not looking to spend too much on, and despite what looks like a high price tag you might think for this already, it is actually not the case. Since I own quite a few things such as a copy of Cabal Coffers , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Grave Pact , among others in other decks and with my play group I'm just going to get proxies of cards that I already have in my collection but that are in other decks.
Caged Sun occurrence in decks from the last year
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