Painful Quandary


Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Set Rarity
Scars of Mirrodin Rare

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Painful Quandary


Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless he or she discards a card.

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Painful Quandary Discussion

Forkbeard on Olivia Voldaren: Twi-Hard With a Vengeance

4 days ago

Love the idea of Dark Depths in here, the Thespian's Stage combo is also pretty funny. If I ever get my hands on a copy of DD I'll definitely slot it in.

The sword cycle is great, but I hadn't really intended this to be a voltron deck (I have 3 other voltron decks, 1 of which includes all 5 swords). Basilisk Collar turns Olivia into a removal machine, Quietus Spike has theme/flavour and Blade of the Bloodchief + the boots are in here for obvious reasons. That said, I would consider 1 or 2 of the swords in place of a couple of non-theme good stuff cards I have in here such as No Mercy or Painful Quandary.

Interesting food for thought, cheers CaptSillva.

Polupus on Faux Pox

5 days ago

@Weenie_Roaster9000 :


Yeah Painful Quandary is kind of expensive and it's rare that I'm able to get it on the field in time to matter, but it is game over once it's out with Necrogen Mists. They essentially can only play 3 more spells for the rest of the game, which helps shore up the weakness to topdecks most discard decks have. This generally stops most opponents from trying to race The Rack in damage and is really good against storm and control decks. This deck is more durdly than most discard decks and I've been trying to model it more on legacy pox than on other 8rack decks by diversifying my threats.

I really like Waste Not. I can imagine playing it turn 2 then using cheap discard to ramp into a Vengeful Pharaoh or Painful Quandary turn 3 as well as helping offset the symmetry of Necrogen Mists.

Weenie_Roaster9000 on Faux Pox

5 days ago

first off, awesome deck. Painful Quandary looks high for running multiple Smallpox, but I agree, it is very fun. Waste Not is awesome for discard decks in my opinion, it's like gambling. check out my pox deck, I'd love your input. Liliana's Torture Dungeon. I like the use of Syphon Life, maybe I'll throw it in. Good work +1

theindigoeffect on deck rape

6 days ago

I used to play Persecute on turn two against my friend's mono-colored burn deck with a little help from Dark Ritual. If you want to speed things up, Dark Ritual is a good start.

In addition to the always awesome Hymn to Tourach, Thoughtseize is pretty effective, and Painful Quandary is an interesting discard engine.

My all-time favorite is Mind Twist and its little brother Mind Shatter isn't too shabby.


1 week ago

Jimmy_Chinchila Thanks for tipping the scale! In mono black, it doesnt have good enchantment removal or protection. I do have a few back up plans like Unstable Obelisk and Scour from Existence to get rid of these pests but it can only go so far. Got any ideas to make this aspect better? The real downside to black, kill everything except enchantments. Tajuru Preserver can be spot removed and if they do give it hexproof/shroud, Arcane Lighthouse will hopefully be available. Elixir will make it into this deck somewhere.

corythackston Thats a valid question and I do run some alternative win even though you almost never see creatureless decks. Waste Not for the mass creature tokens, Painful Quandary, Polluted Bonds, Quest for the Nihil Stone, and Subversion for some life loss for playing cards, having no cards in hand, or life sap. Also, kinda funny you would suggest reanimation spells in a creatureless deck playing against another creatureless deck lol But yeah I believe I could find a spot for more reanimation spells.

Argy Only feel I got first because you didnt deck cycle yesterday! How did you manage to get 1st in T/O ranking? Thats impressive.

Thanks for your comments everyone! Great questions and ideas!

TooMuchDew on Chainer: Resource Domination

1 week ago

I like it! My previous mono-black CMDR that used a lot of these cards was Maralen of the Mornsong. I can sleeve up almost the entire deck but due to budget I plan to replace Candelabra of Tawnos, Imperial Seal, Grim Tutor, and Bazaar of Baghdad with Liliana of the Veil, Geth's Grimoire, Crucible of Worlds, and Inventors' Fair. I think I will try Paradox Engine over Voltaic Key and Painful Quandary instead of Oppression.

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