Painful Quandary


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Rare

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Painful Quandary


Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless he or she discards a card.

Painful Quandary Discussion

naturesnake420 on Circu's Apathetic Sadism (Combo)

1 week ago

Right that's what I thought although I am feeling a bit more comfy on the mana side of thngs in Circu since adding Grim Monolith . My current problem is life total though as everyone seems to hate out the deck (even though I honestly think it's not that good and tell people so) so I'm a little afraid to run things like mana vault and crypt as I very often find myself beaten to 8 life on turn 5. What are your thoughts on Mind's Dilation and Painful Quandary ? I'm looking for alt wincons in the prison build as isorev and labman consultation are easy to disrupt with counterspells and things like Praetor's Grasp .

naturesnake420 on Circu Lantern

1 week ago

Why is Back to Basics here? Doesnt it undermine the draw go strategy? I'd figure Painful Quandary or Mind's Dilation would be better in this kind of deck.

Gadianten on The Best Laid Plans

1 week ago

Larceny and Painful Quandary , because its not enough that you have plans, but rather that your opponents cannot have any plans (cards) at all.

DrkNinja on The Pit of Despair: Scarab God EDH

1 month ago

@Darkshadow327 he wants to play discard reanimation, which is why he's choosing Scarab God, honestly it's a deck I've thought about playing.

Also I agree heavily with with the Painful Quandary , Vedalken Orrery (You're too black to play Leyline, lol), Windfall , and Oversold Cemetery ; especially the Quandary it puts your opponents in a lose lose situation.

I'm not a fan of Awaken the Erstwhile.

I also think that you could really use an Ashnod's Altar for some of those X spells to get a a better pay off.

I took at look at my Thought Scour Nath! (love for you guys to take a look at this) deck for some additional adds... here's what I got.

Darkshadow327 on The Pit of Despair: Scarab God EDH

1 month ago

Windfall could be some good discard, and Dreamstealer could do some work as well. Lord of the Void just seems like a fun card here, along wil Soul Manipulation . Not sure if you want to go this way but Leyline of Anticipation / Vedalken Orrery are always decent in decks. Painful Quandary and No Mercy are just fun political tools.

Also, have you every considered going grixis with Nicol Bolas ? He's pretty fun to play, I made my own deck with him: Schemes of the Omnipotent.

bwanabeast5 on Idle Hands

1 month ago

I would highly recommend Painful Quandary

Darkshadow327 on Guess Who's Back, Back Again, And Again **Primer**

1 month ago

Disrupt Decorum seems decent for this deck, it would allow you to attack without fear. Not sure how you feel about it, but Painful Quandary is a cool card.

beyonddevnull on Meren, Reanimator of Clan Nel Toth

1 month ago

Thanks so much for the compliment Gorbah! Sorry for the lack of updates, I have actually been on a bit of a haitus from MTG for a handful of months. Painful Quandary is a card that I have mulled over a few times in the past. It is definately something that I can see operating well in specific metas, but as you stated the CMC is a bit high. I have grown wary of cards which have a high cmc that I would be casting for retail, compounded with the "or" makes the card a bit difficult for me to feel comfortable relying on. I am glad that you run cards that give your list a bit of personal flair. Even with powerful lists, commander to me is first and formost is about having fun.

I hope this does not dissapoint you, but do not play in any EDH tournaments (not even with my most competitive Chain Veil Teferi list). Even though I run decks that are more on the "competitive" side in terms of their power level, I was actually drawn to EDH to get away from the tournement magic scene that I find to be a bit stressful from a piloting standpoint. I am however known participate in high level play on the playEDH discord server. I periodically seek feedback on my lists from the competitive EDH community to make sure even a "budget" decesion is sound (IMO).

As a heads up, I have another even larger update coming in the next couple of weeks that includes more relatively recent cards. These changes are untested, but I like to keep my tappedout list in line with what I am currently running.

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Painful Quandary occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.02%

Black: 0.21%

Rakdos: 0.34%