Painful Quandary

Painful Quandary

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless he or she discards a card.

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Set Rarity
Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal
Leviathan Legal
Custom Legal
Highlander Legal
Modern Legal
Legacy Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Limited Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Painful Quandary occurrence in decks from the last year

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Painful Quandary Discussion

Massacar on Yurlok, have some mana and die

3 weeks ago

Mana Web, I would add Awakening from your maybeboard, Price of Glory

Painful Quandary, Nightshade Harvester, Ankh of Mishra, Exquisite Blood

Something like Crawlspace for protection (I use Bottled Cloister and Ensnaring Bridge too)

Horizon Stone, Omnath, Locus of Mana, Leyline Tyrant to protect yourself from manaburn

Vexing Shusher to help protect your spells as you cast

Mammet on Thicc Boi Mill

4 weeks ago

Painful Quandary, Silent Arbiter, Jace, Memory Adept, and Geth, Lord of the Vault are definitely on my list of cards to acquire now. I had a Propaganda in my collection already so I replaced Breaking Wave with it. Crawlspace will be nice too, but with the price of it and Painful Quandary, I'll be prioritizing the latter.

CypherusX on Thicc Boi Mill

4 weeks ago

Pretty good deck you have here. I feel like Painful Quandary and Propaganda are some pretty good deterrents to go with your walls. Silent Arbiter and Crawlspace aren't too bad either. Since your using mill you could get away with Scheming Symmetry since you can mill whatever your opponent chooses. In terms of more mill focused creatures there are Gyruda, Doom of Depths, Mindwrack Harpy and Geth, Lord of the Vault. If you want Planeswalkers you could go with Jace, Memory Adept, Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears and Liliana, Death Mage for her last ability.

I feel like you could replace a few of your defenders with some of my recommended creatures and/or Planeswalkers and you probably don't need that many tap spells. However since it is a casual deck you'll know your playgroups meta better than me so only you can really judge if my recommendations work for you and which of your cards perform better than others.

RiotRunner789 on Negan - PeePee Pants City

1 month ago

Painful Quandary is powerful and definetly on theme. The name is perfect. Though this is a bit less budget friendly.

SimicVisionRy on Crazy Cards to add

1 month ago

Red is, well at least, on the color pie, the color of hate effects that have to deal with either damage, or permanent control. Each of the colors has their own way of being a dick on the table, such as Blue with Stasis, white with Blind Obedience and black with cards like Oppression and Painful Quandary. (Black is my fav, btw. Can't play cards if you don't have them in play, lol)

Monomanamaniac on Brain Getting Too Big

1 month ago

Cards to play: Psychosis Crawler which will reward you for drawing by dealing damage. Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted is the better ob nixilis for this deck. Whispering Madness, Dark Deal, Reforge the Soul, Magus of the Wheel, Incendiary Command, Wheel of Fate, Time Reversal, Echo of Eons are all wheel effects that make your opponents suddenly draw a ton of cards that will then let you deal damage to everyone. Prosperity Will have everyone drawing equally. Izzet Signet, Dimir Signet, Rakdos Signet, Arcane Signet are decent mana rocks you're missing. Arcane Denial counters a spell and lets them draw and replaces itself. Stormfist Crusader howling mine effect but punishes at the same time.

Cards to take out. Pillage Very inefficient. Quest for Ancient Secrets Very slow. Sadistic Sacrament not really what this deck is truly wanting to do. Shrieking Affliction 99/100 games your opponents will have more than 1 card in hand. Darksteel Plate just too expensive to be good for this deck. Ob Nixilis Reignited not as good as the other ob nixilis. Cerebral Vortex not usually going to deal massive damage and only damages 1 opponent. Painful Quandary I like this card and probably wouldn't get rid of it, but your opponents will usually have the card to discard. Crawlspace not really going with your overall game plan, it does slow your opponents down,but not by enough. Nin, the Pain Artist it's a lot of mana to sink into an effect like this. Curse of Fool's Wisdom only targets 1 player, it's really too limited. Torbran, Thane of Red Fell a lot of your debate sources are black, this is decent with your commander but not much else. Reverberate I didn't see a huge number of decent targets forthis spell and it doesn't do a whole lot of good. Darksteel Ingot I don't personally like seeing 3 cost mana ramp, I'd suggest replacing it with a signet.

I would like to say that I really like your deck, it's an interesting take on an interesting commander. This is meant to be constructive and all with the best intentions.

Santiago1011 on Liesa, Angel of Punishment [PRIMER]

1 month ago

Thanks for the suggestions Peoni. I added Sanguine Bond in place of Kismet because I already have other tap effects and I've noticed I needed the extra damage. As a personal rule though I don't run infinite combos, so I'm not adding Exquisite Blood.


GalaxyCat, I'm glad to hear you liked the deck :) I used an old pillowfort Kambal list I made a while back in conjunction with EDHREC's creature suggestions so I could have a bit more aggressive approach to it. I did add some pet cards like Koskun Falls, Archangel of Thune, and Painful Quandary that I've been trying to find a deck to play to utilize in. I also probably have a bit more spot removal/ exile than the average build.

Optimator on Yahenni Aristocrats

1 month ago

You don't have a ton of card-draw, and I also recommend at least eight pieces for almost any deck. Graveyard recursion, especially the good ones, definitely count as card advantage in my book, so Phyrexian Reclamation is great here, as is Whisper.

Grim Haruspex and Disciple of Bolas are on-theme. Thorn of the Black Rose and Custodi Lich are fun creature-based choices too. Some other classic choices are Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Promise of Power, Liliana's Contract, Syphon Mind, Castle Locthwain, and Read the Bones. Palace Siege is okay, especially if you feel you need more recursion. Diabolic Servitude is nice and repeatable. Victimize and Blood for Bones are a great rate. Oversold Cemetery is nice too, though pricey.

Greed, Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Skullclamp and Erebos, God of the Dead are really good but not cheap. Erebos, Bleak-Hearted, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, and God-Eternal Bontu would be decent as well. Bonus points for some being threats/blockers.

Gonti, Lord of Luxury is an interesting choice for card advantage--especially if you can recur him out of the graveyard over and over.


Dreadhorde Invasion is a great source of sacrifice fodder. So are Grave Titan and Bitterblossom but they're expensive. High Market is good in case your commander get's Arrested or turned into an elk or frog or the moon. Rogue's Passage could help end games once Yahenni is huge.

If you find you can't close out games between all the groupslug aristocrat cards and Yahenni's damage, perhaps a few auxiliary groupslug cards could tip games in your favor. Most of the good ones are very expensive though. Bloodchief Ascension, Painful Quandary, Polluted Bonds, Wound Reflection, and Palace Siege et al. Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate are classic finishers too.

As far as cuts go... I don't love some of the creature-based removal. I know it's good because you can sacrifice them later but perhaps Morkrut Banshee, Skinrender, and Anowon the Ruin Sage could be cut. I don't love Devour in Shadow and Drag to the Underworld. You should be set on removal even with those five cuts. Feed the Swarm is worth noting! Mortician Beetle is a bit win-more but is uniquely suited to the deck and worth keeping for now. Probably makes a good blocker. Geralf's Messenger is a bit weaker than some of the token generators and recurring threats too.

Also, I don't know if you care (few do) but if you want an accurate price calculation for your deck you should put the cards in the Sideboard into the Maybeboard so they aren't added.

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