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Creature — Ogre Rogue
Whenever another nontoken creature dies, you may put a 1/1 black Rat creature token onto the battlefield.
Rats you control have deathtouch.
Ogre Slumlord Discussion
4 days ago
Smothering Tithe helped immensely in ramp and colour fixing.
Only issue I have with Land Tax is the land goes to your hand not on to the battlefield. It only ensures you play nice fair magic with dropping 1 land a turn when playing Orzhov.
For me personally not enough value from it as a token generator.
Elenda, the Dusk Rose is in my opinion the best token generator in a aristocrats death trigger build.
I’ll go over my suggested cuts after work.
2 weeks ago
The following cards are on the chopping block.
3 weeks ago
You can, if you like, create custom sort categories by adding a # in your edit list (eg. "1x City of Brass #Land") and then setting >Edit >Default category >Custom
Here are some houses:
Herald of Secret Streams ... where'd this go?
Dack's Duplicate ... +1/+1 clone
Spark Double ... +1/+1 clone
Mulldrifter ... if is too much then play this
Treasonous Ogre ... seems good
Reef Worm ... endless worms
Spawning Pit ... you can sacrifice the Spawn tokens to recoup 1/2 the value if they're wiped
Yahenni, Undying Partisan ... it never leaves the board so expect 10+/10+
Toothy, Imaginary Friend ... yes
Midnight Reaper ... yes
Burnished Hart ... do not underestimate this
Goblin Bombardment ... yes
You could also try playing some big beefs that are wipe oriented like...
To play aggressively, Marchesa needs evasive creatures with double strike ...or maybe even...
Flesh-Eater Imp ... I have one, you should try it out
Grafted Exoskeleton ... sacrifice might be nice
Viral Drake ... proliferating your +1/+1 counters would be pretty sweet
...Keep in mind Infect replaces damage so either make it a core theme or only play the ones that can get to 10 Infect quickly.
Demons would also be pretty sweet:
Defiler of Souls ... make them sacrifice
Demon of Wailing Agonies ... make them sacrifice
Havoc Demon ... wipe
Kothophed, Soul Hoarder ... draw to get off the throne?
Krav, the Unredeemed ... seems good
Lord of the Void ... betrayal
Malfegor ... wipe?
Rakdos, the Showstopper ... wipe
Reaper from the Abyss ... removal
Rune-Scarred Demon ... tutor
Silent-Blade Oni ... betrayal
Liliana's Contract ... hilarous
3 weeks ago
Seems like a big planeswalker suite. I am generally not a fan of too many planeswalkers in commander decks unless they are really support a path to our wincon. Individually, they are all good cards, but I think you could pull at least 3 of them and get more token advantage with Teysa. For example, Ogre Slumlord , Pawn of Ulamog , Requiem Angel would all be solid adds. Personally, I'd get this deck down to 2-3 planeswalkers. Elspeth, Sun's Champion is an auto-include. Liliana, Dreadhorde General would be better than any other Liliana in the deck. For that last planeswalker spot I'd pick a Sorin - either Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord or Sorin, Lord of Innistrad would work very well. All, IMO, of course :).
1 month ago
I have considered Nim Deathmantle for a couple of reasons, namely for combos with anything that makes two creatures and Ashnod's Altar . It is still a work in progress and might make it in. At the time of this post, I cannot really afford new cards, due to personal reasons. Ravos was an add because it also buffs my small weenie creatures, so it sort of made sense. Whisper was added due to recurrable effects that can be used multiple times and not a one and done type of effect
Wurmcoil and Hangarback Walker are both from the previous build, you are correct. At the time of this post I replaced them with Sandsower and Ogre Slumlord . Whether or not they say it is hard to say, but the deck is still needing tweaking as I go
Vindictive Vampire I did consider, but ended up using Falkenrath, since it was more of a Blood Artist (in the sense that it triggers WHENEVER a creature dies, not just mine). Liliana is also another high $$$ card, and hasn't been purchased for that reason. It WAS considered, do not get me wrong. Sorin I don't see much reason to play, not really doing much. I think I'd rather play the ones that make tokens (Elspeth and Sorin) if I add planeswalkers to the deck
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician IS a card I'd love to get, and yet another $$$ card. Might try and trade for it, since I would honestly most likely play it over Liliana
Divine Visitation was removed as of this post, in place of Aetherworks Marvel . I literally forgot this was a card. Sure, we don't do allot with Energy counters, but we are constantly saccing our own things! Digging 6 cards deep and just casting it for free essentially is AMAZING! It means we might get out an instant speed removal or even a board wipe. It will also just help us to see more of the deck.
I'd like to get a DH for the deck. I feel like its "not needed" to make the deck playable, but it changes the power level very quickly. I might trade out one of the creature based sacs for Altar of Dementia, just to be able to actually mill people as another possible win con.
To address your concern about card draw: Corpse Augur (replaced today with Mentor of the Meek ), Grim Haruspex , Krav, the Unredeemed , Midnight Reaper , Tymna the Weaver , Night's Whisper , Painful Truths (replaced with Sign in Blood instead), Read the Bones , and Skullclamp make up the draw package. Most of them are "whenever X creature dies", but some of them also take on the properties of working with the Spirits we make to help us to connect (Tymna). Krav turns creatures into life gain and card advantage, and Skullclamp because...well, thats obvious. Bolas's Citadel . while not straight up card draw, can help really churn through the deck.
My biggest weakness I am having with the deck, is not having fodder, or not enough things to do with the sac. Like, I know I got enough sac outlets, cause I am sometimes flooded with them all. But it just feels like I dont have enough TO sac to get these triggers when I don't have my engine going
1 month ago
Hi SwiftDeath, thx for your suggestions, I really appreciate it!
Skullclamp : Performed quite well so far. Has inherent synergy with the commander, it's a turn1 drop with no coloured mana requirements, draws plenty of cards and always has tokens around to "clamp" ( Queen Marchesa , Ogre Slumlord , Ophiomancer , Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts , Rite of the Raging Storm , to name a few). It's even often the case that I equip a creature that Skullclamp does not kill and then proceed to sac that creature to an ability or spell.
Sunforger : I checked your build and you have a whopping 15 targets for it. Should really shine on your deck! Mine currently runs only 4 legal targets making sunforger way less appealing. It will soon be 5 targets as I am going to cut Vindicate for it's instant-speed counterpart Generous Gift . I'll add it to my Maybeboard and keep an eye on my Instants package.
Sun Titan : 6 cmc slots were already pretty crowded but yeah, I should probably run this anyway!
Rakdos Charm / Mimic Vat : Overall am satisfied with my graveyard hate package ( Rakdos Charm , Bojuka Bog and Relic of Progenitus ) This last one may be a wasted slot but is also a concession to turn1 plays and a proper mana curve :) Regarding Mimic Vat , my creatures (with some exceptions) are mostly of the pillow-fort/rattlesnake type that perform by being in play and using the Vat on them is really unexciting. Of course that I can see it being useful using it on the opponents creature but atm I am going more for graveyard hate that catch everything and not just creatures.
Kaya's Guile : When I saw the spoiler I got really excited about this card but after reading it multiple times it become clear that besides the exile graveyards option all the other ones are underwhelming. Specially the first, you will of curse remove some "weeds" from your lawn but the "cactus" that you NEED to take care of will "thorn your derriere".
Blind Obedience : Not the kind of effect I am looking for. I want my opponents to attack as soon as they can. Not me though.
Asha's Favor / Sword of Vengeance : Not a fan of the aura as it will often just go to the GY because my opponents killed my creature in response. The Sword of Vengeance is another story. Will stick around and does two things that benefit greatly my deathtouchers giving them First Strike and Vigilance. I will add it to the maybeboard and try it out.
Regarding your list, is your deck performing with only 30 lands? Seems way too low and besides that you should also look into reducing a bit the number of spells on your 3cmc and 4cmc slots. I think that these changes alone will allow your deck to run smoother.
1 month ago
And Death's Presence isn't too slow at 6 mana? You have other things at 5 0r 6 cmc that are nowhere near as impactful as crusade. I am not saying it is the end all be all card, but it fits your strategies and it is a very powerful card in a non cEDH deck. If you want other suggestions for cards to cut I would say Ogre Slumlord , Kokusho, the Evening Star , and Deathgreeter (i would switch this for Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat )
Almost anything can be removed or countered for no real value. Like last laugh said, it gets targeted by removal is no excuse not to run something. In fact, that is a good sign that people are afraid of it. Don't just not put something in because it will get destroyed, because they will just use their removal on something else if you do.
Ogre Slumlord occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
WB (Orzhov): 0.5%