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Whenever a creature you don't control dies, return it to the battlefield under your control with an additional +1/+1 counter on it at the beginning of the next end step. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
Grave Betrayal Discussion
3 weeks ago
You have a lot of sorceries. They're not necessarily bad, but they are taking up space where zombies could be. You can get rid of innocent blood (use fleshbag marauder instead), aether snap, twilight's call, life's finale
You don't really need vensor's journal or whispersilk cloak. You don't really have big creatures that do anything on combat damage to a player.
For instants I think tendrils of corruption, grasp of darkness, murder, go for the throat, and doom blade do well in mono black
And you got some jank creatures. What is that vulture? no. No dross hopper, no gangrenous zombies, no zombie brute, gutless ghoul is kind of crap, you have a lot of things with activated abilities and I just don't think you're going to be using them that much.
You also don't have card draw. You have a sign in blood and that's it really. Black has some good pay with life card draw cards.
You have the sanguine bond/exquisite blood combo, but your sanguine bond is completely useless. You don't gain any life except from vensor's journal and you don't have much card draw, so it's not going to do much.
Good zombie cards to add: Fleshbag Marauder (so good with mikaeus) Ghoulcaller Gisa Ghoulraiser Graf Harvest Grave Betrayal Grave Defiler Graveborn Muse Gravecrawler Infernal Caretaker josu vess Liliana's Mastery Lord of the Accursed Maalfeld Twins Necromancer's Stockpile Necromantic Selection Noosegraf Mob Open the Graves Grave Titan Liliana's Reaver Cadaver Imp Corpse Connoisseur Accursed Horde Archdemon of Unx cemetary recruitment Cryptbreaker Diregraf Colossus Doomed Dissenter Empty the Pits (is hilarious) Ever After Overseer of the Damned Plague Belcher Rakshasa Gravecaller Relentless Dead Risen Executioner Rot Hulk Shepherd of Rot Stir the Sands Zombie Infestation
I think I have some of these. You can have them if I do
1 month ago
Though our colors and budgets are a bit different, I might recommend you look at my Home alone deck, which features a similar strategy using Thantis, the Warweaver instead of War's Toll . My deck is a bit different; it's based less on not being attacked, but on forcing people to attack you and then punishing them for it; but the general ideas are the same.
Of immediate note to me is Vicious Shadows . People tend to see this card and read "when a creature an opponent control dies, that creatures controller takes damage equal to the number of cards in their hand." But it's not that. It's any creature, and it's target player. With a card out like war's toll, you should have some options.
Stuffy Doll is a really fun card to look at, and like vicious shadows, it gives you some political power. Watch people attack you with a single creature, knowing you'll block it and hurt a mutual foe. It also pairs really well with red murder spells Blasphemous Act and Star of Extinction . I'm noticing you don't really have board wipe spells here; those two and also the white Wrath of God are good choices.
Archetype of Finality gives every creature you have death-touch, making every blocker you have extremely capable.
Blood Reckoning is a good for making people not want to attack you.
Grave Betrayal is very, very good.
Xantcha, Sleeper Agent is a creature that is incredibly good.
1 month ago
I love slivers but you need different ways to get them out of the graveyard. My sliver deck and every other sliver deck I have every played is very slow and is a massive target to every other player. I recommend Nissa, Vital Force , or a Grave Betrayal .
If you have your commander Cryptolith Rite is not a good card for this deck because you can tutor for two other cards with the same exact effect. Winged Sliver is a little redundant you already have two other slivers with flying. Thorncaster Sliver is very expensive and Leeching Sliver has almost the same effect.
1 month ago
Unspeakable Symbol is a great way to put counters on your creatures, while also lowering your life total so you can continue to trigger dethrone.
Grave Betrayal allows you to steal your opponents' creatures after they die, and then keep them around once more after death since they'll have a +1/+1 counter!
Grimgrin, Corpse-Born is a solid sac outlet with +1/+1 counters as well as a way to destroy threatening creatures or clear opposing blockers.
Let me know what you think of these suggestions. Happy brewing!
1 month ago
Amazing deck and presentation! Looks really pleasurable to pilot. I love all the synergies you've built between Haakon and Elenda.
Here comes a few suggestions I've in mind :
Bitterblossom > not the funniest card you could find, but it is a real powerhouse alongside Attrition , Anointed Procession , Skullclamp , Dictate of Erebos etc. / I was a bit surprised it wasn't included.
Bloodghast > same note.
Enduring Renewal > makes you a bit more vulnerable against control match-ups as they can see and play around what you're trying to do, but it has the potential of being extra spicy there - giving you a lift at building up your combos.
Academy Rector > absurdly good at tutoring some of your combos. Expensive (money speaking) nonetheless.
Forbidden Orchard > fuel for Elenda against creatureless decks. Taps for any color.
Grave Betrayal > greedy and expensive card that only works against decks running valuable creatures. Good fun, poor consistency.
1 month ago
Undying doesn't change the first ability of Treacherous Pit-Dweller based on whether or not there's a counter. It just means that if TPD has no +1/+1 counters on it when it dies, it comes back from the graveyard.
As mentioned, if it enters the battlefield from the graveyard at all, an opponent will gain control of it. It doesn't matter how it got to the battlefield from the graveyard. This could be due to its own Undying trigger, or somehow being given Unearth or a similar ability. It could also be due to things like Reanimate , Rise from the Grave , Grave Betrayal , Necromantic Selection , Liliana, Death's Majesty (second ability), and so on. It's worth noting that some of these (Grave Betrayal, Necromantic Selection) could be used by your opponents to steal TPD from your graveyard. If they do, it enters under their control, but then the control-switching effect triggers and they have to hand it off to one of their opponents.
2 months ago
I don't like targeted discard, simply because of how inefficient it is in edh, where you have more than one opponent, so the cards aren't even 1-for-1's. So that knocks off all of those except for Grave Betrayal , which seems like it could work well in a vacuum. Maybeboard for now.
2 months ago
This is a really cool deck. The strategy seems thought out and it looks really fun to play. Thoughtseize or Duress could be decent if you wanted to force an opponent to discard their best card. Liliana Vess and Grave Betrayal could be another way to take advantage of the creatures in the grave (not to mention Liliana Vess also helps with the discard).
All in all, pretty neat deck. +1
Grave Betrayal occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%