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Whenever a creature you don't control dies, return it to the battlefield under your control with an additional +1/+1 counter on it at the beginning of the next end step. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
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Grave Betrayal Discussion
11 hours ago
I really need to get a Grave Betrayal for my deck. I find Carrion Feeder, Bloodflow Connoisseur, Yahenni, Undying Partisan to be excellent sac outlets that also provide themselves +1/+1 counters, plus Yahenni can survive board wipes and gets pretty massive after a wipe as well.
4 days ago
Never seen a deck with her as a commander. That's pretty neat! How about Grave Betrayal since so much stuff is dying?
6 days ago
Hey multimedia, thanks again for your help. I have removed some of the cards you suggested that made sense to me in order to speed up the deck a bit. I ended up removing Austere Command for Cleansing Nova as it provides most of the same options while being 1 CMC less. I also removed costly token generating cards such as Necromancer's Covenant and From Under the Floorboards and the monster stealer Grave Betrayal. I also removed Gravespawn Sovereign to reduce the CMC and remove the last bit of creature steal in the deck. I added Liliana, the Last Hope, Graveyard Marshal, Nantuko Husk, and Shepherd of Rot in to reduce the cost in the deck. I was able to drop the deck from 3.7 CMC to 3.5. Not sure if said improvement will be noticeable during gameplay, but we shall see! Thanks again man I really do appreciate it.
Yea and before I forget, I avoided cards like Living End, Living Death, and Patriarch's Bidding because of the off chance that I help my opponent. In my 5 man pod, I'm not the only one who rocks grave recursion. Buddy of mine has a wicked good dredge deck that I hate.
2 weeks ago
Koskun Falls and Norn's Annex are both extra pillowfort effects. Unburial Rites and Beacon of Unrest are both other reanimation effects, as is Obzedat's Aid. Grave Betrayal is a bit mana heavy but very good just before a board wipe.
2 weeks ago
Always nice to see another Toshiro deck. Budget too!
I really really, really don’t like Cremate in this style of deck. I get the idea, it’s kinda like Think Twice but it’s not really worth it. Commander cards really need to do something and Cremate doesn’t do enough. If you want better card draw, Dark Bargain and Moonlight Bargain is much better. If you want graveyard hate Suffer the Past and Crypt Incursion are good in this deck.
Grave Betrayal is cute but it’s really expensive.
Chainer, Dementia Master is awesome. Some board states become auto wins with Chainer in play and if you really need a creature back, you can kill it easily.
I will throw out Illness in the Ranks seems loose. It really only works if you get both it and Orchard in play and that seems a bit magical Christmas land-y. I personally wouldn’t play it but that’s just me.
1 month ago
I'm having the same problems. And you just have to discover new combos. Here's a new one I discovered. Blasphemous Act destroying all the creatures for hopefully as little as 1 red mana then cast at the very end step of that turn when no one sees it coming, Thrilling Encore. It's just like what Grave Betrayal does minus the +1+1 counters and not turning them black and zombies. But for only a total of 6 mana Finding new explosive combos, infinite or not seems to work for me the best.
1 month ago
1 month ago
For Xantcha, Sleeper Agent run Hero's Blade to make her bigger before giving away control of her. Also run Heartstone since it makes all activated abilities of creatures cost less regardless if you control them or not. Also run Braid of Fire and Thran Turbine since you can use those to draw cards on your upkeep with free mana. Grave Betrayal practically makes her impossible to get rid of. Mana Cache is a way to give your opponents lots of mana to spend on your commander. You can also run cards like Oppression, Bottomless Pit, Necrogen Mists, Stronghold Rats to keep everyone's hands empty so that they'll want to draw more cards. Helm of Awakening is also good, since it makes all spells cost less leaving your opponents more mana to spend on her ability. Also since she has to attack you could also run Vampiric Link to gain life by enchanting your commander or you could just use Exquisite Blood to capitalize on the slugfest that is bound to ensue.