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Whenever a creature you don't control dies, return it to the battlefield under your control with an additional +1/+1 counter on it at the beginning of the next end step. That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
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Grave Betrayal Discussion
1 hour ago
6 days ago
Sin Collector, Entomber Exarch, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Shepherd of Rot if you go the zombie direction. While expensive, Grave Betrayal is great if you go the whole stacks directions with Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, Fleshbag Marauder, Slum Reaper, Butcher of Malakir and those guys, which I have in my Meren deck, and I don't want decks too similar.
2 weeks ago
Ok...There are typically two ways of making a Marchesa deck. The first way is to put in a lot of creatures that can get +1/+1 counters easily (like Anthroplasm, Aetherborn Marauder, Butcher Ghoul, Carrion Feeder or Unleash/Modular cards). The problem is, these cards hardly do anything other than putting counters on themselves. They're pretty much duds. So to make up for this, people will put in good sac outlets, (Cards like Mind Slash, Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, Altar of Dementia, Attrition, etc). This type of deck gets its engine running STRICTLY from it's sac outlets, (NOT FROM ITS CREATURES) and because of this, it is a bit more reliant on it's commander.
The second type of deck is my preferred method of playstyle. Whereby, the deck is not RELYING on its sac outlets, (although it does have a few) but rather on the bounce effects of creatures. (Cards like Mulldrifter and Harvester of Souls). With this type of deck, you're also not fully relying on your commander. Marchesa is just a perk. If you don't have her out, you can still play your creatures and benefit from them.
Also keep in mind, that it isn't too hard getting +1/+1 counters on your creatures just using the dethrone ability itself. I find that most, if not all the time, you will NOT be at the highest life total; especially if you have Necropotence, Ancient Tomb, Unspeakable Symbol, shock lands, fetch lands, and pain lands in the deck.
This is the Marchesa deck that I personally made. You're welcome to look at it for suggestions.
Commander / EDH
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Some cards that I would highly recommend putting in the deck are:
- Sneak Attack
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Demonic Tutor
- River Kelpie
- Consecrated Sphinx
- Diabolic Intent
- Harvester of Souls
- Glen Elendra Archmage
- Mind Slash
- Thalakos Deceiver
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Phyrexian Tower
- Cyclonic Rift
- Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
- Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
- Scourge of the Throne
- Unspeakable Symbol
- Grave Betrayal
- Flayer of the Hatebound
NOTE: If you do decide to have this deck be a bit more ETB heavy, Deadeye Navigator and Rite of Replication are good cards to help abuse the ETB triggers.
2 weeks ago
Jabber I feel ya, my playgroup member so have our Moreno cutthroat decks too haha.
I have a friend who has a Bloodchief Ascension for trade, idk if he has it still, but if he does I'll try getting it! I know he has a Lazav deck he's taking apart for Oona Faerie tribal so I'll try nabbing cards that he doesn't need anymore lol.
Forced Fruition sounds awesome, I'll try getting one someday haha.
Mortivore is a maybe, same with Szadek. The former doesn't have much evasion but he seems good so I'll consider him, the latter is good and all, but a CMC of 7 really hurts..
Grave Betrayal and Rite of Replication are good cards, but I don't want the deck to stray too much away from the theme. I do have a foil Grave Betrayal, so if I decide to change it up, I'll add it in for sure!
Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely consider them!
2 weeks ago
I like the deck you are building it's very interesting and understand the cost goals. I am trying to build something similar but more infinity loop based cause my play group is bunch of pricks with stuff like loose half your life doubled and shit like that. But any way some cards I would recommend.
Bloodchief Ascension: its expensive but super good look for the price
Mindcrank: damage = mill cards
Keening Stone: If you're half way there just finish it
Forced Fruition: little to expensive but fun all the same
Mortivore: big creature to hit with
Royal Assassin: some defense
Szadek, Lord of Secrets: more mill and another large creature
Grave Betrayal: stealing peoples dead stuff
Rite of Replication: well why not have 5 of it
2 weeks ago
Thanks for your suggestions Voltron3030!
Grave Betrayal is very nice, but also damn expensive to cast. Furthermore, I think it would fit better in a green/black control deck (Meren?).
I love Angelic Accord. It used to be in here but was replaced with Sigil of the Empty Throne. Maybe I could cut Chromatic Lantern for it; I'm always careful with cutting mana sources but I have to admit; this deck never really suffers from a shortage. I'll give it a try.
As for Plea for Guidance; no I don't think so. Too expensive for my tastes and I have much cheaper tutors and plenty of draw in this deck to compensate.
2 weeks ago
Grave Betrayal would be awesome in this build. I would also recommend Angelic Accord since you're already running Sigil of the Empty Throne and Anointed Procession. Plea for Guidance is a descent way to get all these to combo together. The only suggestion I have for cuts is Chromatic Lantern. It's not doing much good in a two color besides being another mana rock (Worn Powerstone ramps better) and you already have plenty of lands.