|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Common|
|Fifth Dawn (5DN)||Uncommon|
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Guardian Idol enters the battlefield tapped.
Tap: Add (1) to your mana pool.
(2): Guardian Idol becomes a 2/2 Golem artifact creature until end of turn.
Guardian Idol Discussion
2 months ago
First of all, this list has been retired for a few months. If I was still updating it, I would for sure take out Mox Amber , Copy Artifact , Snapcaster Mage and Daze , as well as most of the card draw stuff like Dig Through Time . However, there are cards I stand by that you listed to cut. The fetches don't matter, except I have them and I can flex. There may be no reason to run them but there's also no reason not to. Power Artifact is a backup plan with the monoliths and Walking Ballista , in case Arcum gets shut down. Strip Mine is actually fine, and Merchant's Dockhand is just a 1 mana sac target, one that just so happens to have an ability that isn't useless if it gets to that point. Guardian Idol is a rock that can be a creature of necessary, and Everflowing Chalice is just a rock, it doesn't need to be searched, and I don't see why it would ever need to be. Metalworker is very good, it can get a ton of mana to hardcast your combo pieces if they get stuck in your hand. I don't see why you say the creatures are slow, the main sac targets are 0 and 1 mana, which is what most decks usually play. I used to play Darksteel Forge and Mycosynth Lattice but I took them out because I found that it's useless to tutor for them. I would rather win then durdle around with indestructible. In most cases your stuff wouldn't be destroyed, rather countered which indestructible doesn't help with much. On the contrary, Delay and Flusterstorm are both must haves. A combo that wins on turn 1-4 90% of the time is useless if you can't protect it. I don't know if you've played in a real cEDH game, but if you haven't, I suggest watching a few videos on the YouTube channel Laboratory Maniacs. They play cEDH games. Most of these games don't end on turns 1-4, as everyone has some kind of response to the other's important spells. If you can't protect your stuff or take out your opponents key pieces, you lose.
2 months ago
Apathy-Dance Ok, so traditional Polymorph decks work like this: the deck contains exactly one or two creatures. These should be large unanswerably powerful fatty. Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is the traditional choice, but there are plenty of options, like Iona, Shield of Emeria , Progenitus , and Kozilek, the Great Distortion . These must be the only creatures in the deck, or else you risk polymorphing into something else.
Then, there will have a number of noncreature spells that make creatures. This can take the form of permanents that become creatures like Faerie Conclave or Guardian Idol . Or, it will be instants and sorceries that create creature tokens, like Dragon Fodder or Lingering Souls .
Now...the idea is as follows: you create a creature, then destroy your own creature with Polymorph, and find a copy of the big fatty in your deck, and put it on to the battlefield. Yeah, you lose the creature to Polymorph, but it would always be better to have the big fatty than the tiny critter.
But, the biggest problem that Polymorph decks face, is that the opponent can kill the creature Polymorph is targeting, and this will prevent any of the effects of Polymorph from happening. So, Polymorph decks have to pack hexproofing , counterspells , discard , bounce and other things to fight against removal and lock . And they usually need cards that assist finding the combo.
It is at this point that Amass becomes very appealing to me, because there is an Amass card that can fill each of those functions, and this means you don't need to specifically have any token generation, just noncreature amass spells. And then, with so many instants and sorceries, Invade the City could make a solid backup win condition.
2 months ago
I play an Arcum Dagsson list that combos off between 1 and 4 in 90% of games. I would ditch the fetches, you don't need to thin the deck as you aren't topdecking you are searching so you don't need to thin out the lands you draw. I run Codex Shredder in mine as a way to A. Infinite mill when the deck goes infinite any way and it's a safeguard for Paradox Engine . Ditch some of your spells and focus more on combo as earlier as possible, I feel this is split between a control edh and combo edh and you want to focus it as much as possible, I would ditch Strip Mine because it's a dead draw if you topdeck and pretty dead in start hand, you want your land base mostly blue as most arty ramp is colourless, ditch Mox Amber as it's mostly useless to you, ditch Snapcaster Mage as it's not worth it, it holds up an opponent but will mainly hold up you more. Tolaria West is definitely worth running as is the land that gives a creature haste, Hall of the Bandit Lord or something (the name escapes me), Flusterstorm isn't worth running, Power Artifact isn't worth it - that's not the direction the deck is going, I'd ditch Daze , Metalworker , Merchant's Dockhand , Guardian Idol , Everflowing Chalice , Copy Artifact , Dig Through Time , and Delay . The creatures are too slow, Everflowing Chalice can't be searched for with Arcum Dagsson so is a waste, Copy Artifact is neat but too slow and uses your precious blue mana, Dig Through Time is slow and clunky, and you likely won't have enough stuff in the graveyard to cast it cheap. I run Mycosynth Lattice in mine, Arcum Dagsson can sac himself if desperate, you can remove all opponents critters, and sac any of yours, also stops blue mana being an issue, and Darksteel Forge protect all your stuff then. I run an Eldrazi titan in mine (ramp into it early most people will freak) and it's useful to shuffle your grave if stuff gets hard, surprised not to see Junk Diver as a backup combo piece, and Aetherflux Reservoir is your biggest asset and yet wasn't in the list, I'll add a link to my list in a moment.
5 months ago
Why cromatic latern? I suggest Guardian Idol .
8 months ago
for starters you could cut down on creatures like: Aether Poisoner, Child of Night, Daggerdrome Imp, Deathgaze Cockatrice, Farbog Revenant, Feral Abomination, Fetid Imp, Flensermite, Giant Scorpion, Hand of Silumgar, Hired Poisoner, Markov Patrician, Maze Abomination, Moonglove Changeling, Moonglove Winnower, Nirkana Assassin, Queen's Agent, Rancid Rats, Ruin Rat, Scrounger of Souls, Sidisi's Pet, Skittering Heartstopper Vampire Champion and replace others for: Black Cat, Burglar Rat, Cadaver Imp, Liliana's Specter, Ravenous Rats, Twisted Abomination, Gurmag Angler but would compite with Shambling Attendants for the gy. some usefuls spells you might replace or add cound be: Blessing of Leeches, Sadistic Glee, Soul Channeling, Ashes to Ashes, Evincar's Justice, Shred Memory, Dark Bargain, maybe Crypt Incursion. im out of ideas for cards, for now, and you could add more artifact ramp or artifact that can be creatures like Guardian Idol, Wayfarer's Bauble is in every deck i play, Relic of Progenitus and Nihil Spellbomb are always good gy hate.
9 months ago
Commander's Sphere is super cheap right now. Same with Darksteel Ingot, Leaden Myr, Everflowing Chalice, Astral Cornucopia, Corrupted Grafstone, Guardian Idol, Phyrexian Totem and Worn Powerstone. there are more (My LGS goes by tcg prices so that's what I use). If you wanted to make Hythonia the Cruel deck then maybe add a couple more gorgons. The ramp cards I suggested should be auto-includes once you get your hands on some money.
11 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions, I will cut : Costly Plunder, Cower in Fear,Disenchant, Duress, Lapse of Certainty, Hymn to Tourach, Unearth, Armillary Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, Pilgrim's Eye, Alloy Myr and some lands.
To add : Eland Umbra, Monk Idealist, Auramancer, Prismatic Lens, Guardian Idol, Gold Myr, Polluted Mire, Path of Ancestry, Sign in Blood, Pestilence, Merciless Resolve, Palace Sentinels, Forsake the Worldly.
I will look for more alternatives to add some other cards. :)
11 months ago
Cuts: Costly Plunder, Cower in Fear, Disenchant, Lapse of Certainty, Angelic Purge, Chainer's Edict, Choking Sands, Duress, Dust to Dust, Hymn to Tourach, Nausea, Rancid Earth, Shrivel, Soul Reap, Unearth, Armillary Sphere, Commander's Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, Orzhov Cluestone, Wayfarer's Bauble, Alloy Myr, Pilgrim's Eye, Ash Barrens, 3x Swamp.
Adds: Forsake the Worldly, Palace Sentinels, Eyeblight's Ending, Merciless Resolve, Murder, Pestilence, Rend Flesh, Sign in Blood, Drifting Meadow, Forsaken Sanctuary, Orzhov Guildgate, Path of Ancestry, Polluted Mire, Evolving Wilds, Gold Myr, Guardian Idol, Prismatic Lens, Ethereal Armor, Auramancer, Monk Idealist, Eland Umbra.
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Guardian Idol occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%