Hellfire

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Hellfire

Sorcery

Destroy all nonblack creatures. Hellfire deals X plus 3 damage to you, where X is the number of creatures put into all graveyards this way.

EnbyGolem on Are Old Cards Heavier than …

1 year ago

Balaam__, that must be why my Hellfire weighed in damn near half a pound. Its been gorging on my life loss and own self-anguish this whole time 0.0

Asgeren on An Old-School Nightmare

2 years ago

Congrats on the new cards! Lake of the Dead is a card I really love in mono-black especially! and Hellfire is just badass!

Another cheap land I think you may like is High Market and of course there's the more expensive Phyrexian Tower. - because sac outlets are always nice to have!

Idoneity on Buh!

3 years ago

Ah, discard. A field I know well.

I come bearing suggestions.

There are many fantastic discard engines that many do not know exist. Anvil of Bogardan is a favourite of mi... Wait, you have that one.

Well, Delirium Skeins is... Darn that Maybeboard.

I see you to be one of those players who digs deep, which is lovely. From the most vast of options broods the most fruitful of strategies. I do have my own discard list, built under Chainer, Dementia Master , which was my very first deck.

Unfortunately, you have all of my discard recommendations accommodated somewhere in this list, thus I must proffer my mono-Black choices. These are a little expensive, but they are what I have to offer.

Given the fact that you are both stealing permanents and forcing discard, I believe this to mean that you do not mind rude cards. Hence, Contamination . You have probably heard of this, but here it is again.

Hellfire is one of my favourite cards of all time, acting as a Cyclonic Rift that hurts your both life total and your wallet. I have died multiple times whilst casting this spell, but the artwork is great.

I feel as if a Dark Ritual to power out Tergrid  Flip would be quite detrimental to your opponents. It enacts your engine early whilst being quite the powerful spell by itself.

Snuff Out surprises a fair number of people, for being without mana typically entails being without interaction.

A Lake of the Dead is one of the very best cards in my Chainer list, as it brings a metric ton of mana to the table. It may cost a swamp each activation, but it is well worth the toll.

The most obscure card I run in my discard deck is Cao Cao, Lord of Wei . He is terrible, slow, and certainly exists.

Care to double the price of your deck? Well, Chains of Mephistopholes has you covered. It denies card draw like a Hullbreacher and offers fuel for the commander  Flip. People do not typically mind proxies, if you would dare venture that route.

TLDR: I commend you for your card-digging adventures, for it takes patience to read all of the possible options for a commander deck, and I did my best in terms of suggestions.

Best of luck, and farewell.

Here is my own list, if you care: Let the Nightmare Go On..

Idoneity on The squeakers

3 years ago

There isn't much that feels better than casting Hellfire and dying to it.

Oh. And an Expedition Map could aid in fetching out utility lands, and you may merely cut a Swamp for it.

NeonEndymion on

4 years ago

Feast of the Unicorn and Koskun Falls are actually in the sideboard, which i'll publish in a week or so; given the relative low power of the deck overall, however, the CMC/curve considerations are tight at 4. would love to include Hellfire , but unfortunately it wasn't reprinted in chronicles so doesn't fit the imposed set restrictions for 95-96 old school.

sleeper_agent007 on

4 years ago

Also Hellfire but not sure it's affordable.

Profet93 on Let the Nightmare Go On..

4 years ago

Azeworai

Regarding your land drops, I HATE missing land drops, so I know where you're coming from, but at a point you can sacrifice that land for more card draw in the form of Phyrexian Arena , Sign in Blood or Night's Whisper , the last 2 in particular are good in your opening hand. If you choose not to, understand completely. But I've been playing in a more semi-competitive meta, so I make these suggestions from that perspective. Not sure what your meta is like and the level of interaction.

Murderous Rider isn't a crazy upgrade and I understand art for flavor reasons, although I disagree with your art choice, I think the promo looks bad and the "upgrades murderous rider" (whatever it's called) in foil looks spectacular. I respect your artistic taste nevertheless.

Hellfire definitely seems like a pet card since it's the picture of your deck.

Glad one of the artifact/enchantment removal suggestion stuck, it sucks to have someone use Nevermore , Declaration of Naught , RIP or any other hate piece you can't interact with.

I like that aspect of Ill-Gotten Gains , I have 3 mindslaver effects in my mono black deck so I know where you're coming from, thats a fair point.

The promo version of Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is $55 on TCG player, while it's a lot of $$, just wanted you to be informed of the price difference.

Another note, I LOVE Head Games , but it's not so much a threat as it is a political tool. If you use it that way, by all means. Whenever I tried using it in either of my playgroups, it always worked against me because I was seen as the threat, maybe it isn't the case in your situation. But should you want to go for more efficiency, I would replace it for Mind Twist (note, it says at random). Can be used earlier than head games, bait's counterspell removal, put creatures in their yards from the hand.

Idoneity on Let the Nightmare Go On..

4 years ago

Profet93

Alright! Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely be considering these. However, I do have some counterpoints:

This deck doesn't have too much card draw, so having a high land count aids in making sure I hit each land for the turn. If I have any excess, I can just discard them to my effects. I'd love to have Urborg in here, but I haven't been able to get ahold of one. I do intend to add Ransack the Lab over a land, as well.

Murderous Rider could be fine, but it loses me two life and I prefer the promo art of Hero's Downfall .

Hellfire is just a pet card of mine. I've had it for years, and I don't intend to remove it. Mutilate is a good addition, though. I'll have to find room for it.

This deck always just loses to Rest in Peace , or effects of the sort, so Nevinyrral's Disk is fantastic. Same with Ratchet Bomb ; that has efficacy to it. Ugin and Karn are a bit out of budget, however.

Ill-Gotten Gains exists for the political aspect. If I return a Mindslicer , I can kind of control what my opponents do with the cards or they just risk losing them entirely. But I do see your point. Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed would be great, but that's over one-hundred dollars right now. Necromancy is probably my best bet.

Thank you very much!

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