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Creatures you control get +1/+1 and have flying and indestructible.
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature. If you can't, sacrifice Eldrazi Monument.
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Eldrazi Monument Discussion
1 day ago
Extort is a great way to tackle multiple opponents. If I'm right, your main strategy is to use extort AND (s)tax cards to whittle down your opponents' strengths.
The biggest problem I see with your deck is that its average CMC is way too high in order for you to use extort effectively. You will need to make some cuts to make the deck more effective in that area. I would also really find some additional ways to add some ramp to your deck, to make it a little faster. Last but not least, I would lessen the deck's focus on both tax (paying extra mana for stuff) and stax (forcing sacrifices) while also trying to build an extort deck.
Here are my suggestions:
Before suggesting additions, let me first suggest some cuts:
- Abhorrent Overlord: too expensive, bad synergy with rest of the deck
- Ashen Rider; cool creature, nice spot removal, but too damn expensive. Especially when you need your mana each turn to use your extort abilities.
- Darien, King of Kjeldor: too expensive, bad synergy with rest of the deck
- Emeria Shepherd: nice recursion, but too expensive CMC
- razaketh, the foulblooded : this is one of the main reasons that currently makes this deck very ineffective. It's one of two reason (Eldrazi Monument being the other) that you are running so many token generators.
- Dictate of Erebos: this is really not the deck's focus, and not needed if you also use tax cards.
- Debtors' Knell: nice recursion but fucking expensive (CMC-wise); there are cheaper alternatives.
- Grave Betrayal: nice steal card but again, unreal-fucking expensive
- Martyr's Bond: too expensive, there are cheaper alternatives
- Eldrazi Monument: no reason why this should be in here
- Everflowing Chalice: you need ramp but this does not work too well unless you're playing a counter/proliferate deck.
- Godsend: spot removal is nice, you need it, but there are cheaper ways.
- Devout Invocation: nice finisher but this deck can do without such an expensive card.
- Increasing Devotion: you do not need tokens
- Rout: I would replace this with a more interesting wipe (more on that below).
Ok, now that my removal suggestions are out of the way, time for some addition suggestions.
Adding two more lands wouldn't hurt. I would also consider adding Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart or even Weathered Wayfarer. If you feel like spending big, Land Tax might be nice. In terms of ramp artifacts, Mind Stone, Thought Vessel or Commander's Sphere would fit well here.
I'm missing Treasury Thrull. Not just a great extorter, but also nice for recursion purposes.
Norn's Annex is an even better version of Ghostly Prison in my opinion. Especially for you since giving up 4 life to cast this in turn 2-3 is not a problem at all; you're gaining oodles of life anyway. Authority of the Consuls is awesome in this deck too, and so cheap! Since you're so fond of recursion, how about Athreos, God of Passage. His ability synergizes so well with your deck! Finally, Karmic Justice is cheap to cast and is almost as good as Martyr's Bond. And not a (s)tax card perse, but Crawlspace stops any ambitious token player dead in its tracks against you.
In terms of draw, with the amount of life you can gain with this deck, it basically begs for a Necropotence (or maybe an Underworld Connections or Greed). For tutoring, I'd add something like Enlightened Tutor (as enchantments are important to your deck's success). Diabolic Tutor could also be added; even Vampiric Tutor if you feel like throwing money around.
For spot removal, I'd suggest Unmake. For wipes, I'd replace Rout with Fumigate (gain live while wiping; noice :)). Also, Toxic Deluge is simply made for lifegain decks like yours, and it will even get rid of indestructible creatures.
As an afterthought
Well, I hope I did not forget anything and that any of this helped. If not, feel free to curse my name haha. If it did help, I would ask in return if you could peruse a deck of mine and leave your comments and/or likes. Thanks and happy gaming!
1 day ago
VexenX, I assume you are asking about my experience with Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip? I am not playing the card and was interested in seeing what you plan to cut for it. Your response indicates it probably is not going to make it into the deck.
You did put in Traverse the Outlands by cutting a land to go to 42. I am at 42 lands as I cut one to get Asceticism into the deck. Natural Order and Akroma's Memorial were two possible cuts for Traverse the Outlands that I mentioned.
Would you recommend leaving out Traverse the Outlands, or cutting Akroma's Memorial or Natural Order or another card? Natural Order is the only card of the three that can be played while we are behind or as an alternate win condition getting either Avenger of Zendikar or Craterhoof Behemoth (win con).
I know Akroma's Memorial has won you games. I still value Steely Resolve, Asceticism and probably Eldrazi Monument more that Akroma's Memorial. This may come down to what kind of decks you are playing. A competitive table probably doesn't even concern itself with Omnath. A more casual table where turn six wins are very unusual are going to kill or counter Omnath 9 out of 10 times.
Akroma's Memorial does partiality aid with keeping Omnath on the board but it is not as effective as the other three as protection from white is much better than protection from red. The seven mana cost another issue as this necessitates waiting a turn to cast Omnath.
Have I overvalued Eldrazi Monument? It comes down on the mana curve before Omnath in theory and provides protection from most boardwipes. We are not playing that many creatures. Has the sacrifice clause been an issue for you? If you are having to play this after Omnath hits the board it becomes less valuable and probably loses out to Akroma's Memorial in finishing games.
4 days ago
Here are a few suggestions for synergy regarding pirates, and leveraging against board wipes:
Creatures to help mitigate board wipes in Grixis could include Coffin Queen (steal from the graveyard and/or exile), Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet (exile all opponent creatures that die and get zombie tokens), Mikaeus, the Unhallowed (undying), Marchesa, the Black Rose (dethrone - amazing synergy with Mikaeus), Geth, Lord of the Vault (steal from graveyard and mill), Sheoldred, Whispering One (board swinging reanimation and opponent sacrifice) and Soul of New Phyrexia (permanents become indestructible).
Artifacts and spells to help mitigate could include Eldrazi Monument (creatures are indestructible), Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact (opponent sacrifices when your creatures die), Darksteel Plate (indestructible), Training Grounds (reduce all activated abilities of creatures noted), Paradoxical Outcome (bounce to hand and card draw for significant advantage).
I'm sure there are many more, but those were the first that came to mind. Good luck with your build.
4 days ago
RingoDingo92, yeah thats what i was thinking about Tpost... Feldon of the Third Path was in my first daretti deck.. but itt was also a token based artifact creature deck... kiki game breaker was in there too.. and this hidden gem Monkey Cage haha its fun casting Metalwork Colossus for free and getting a ton of monkeys... with Eldrazi Monument wizard of oz commences... My current deck only runs 16 dudes feldon dont do much for me like he used to. i never did buy the precon though :P
5 days ago
I had my volume up high when I entered in this page and the music scared the shit out of me. Haha.
+1. Some cool ideas in here. I'd recommend Eldrazi Monument. You want a good anthem and want to be greedy? Well, that's the card for you.
6 days ago
Eldrazi Monument can fit nicely in this deck.
6 days ago
What do you think of these board wipe protection cards that I am playing? They are:
I am surprised you are not playing Phyrexian Reclamation.
You have Malakir Bloodwitch which I also play. My curve is 2.54 so I try to avoid the higher cost vampires. I am playing Voldaren Pariah Flip, Bloodline Necromancer and Vampire Nocturnus? Have you tried any of these? What would you cut?