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Bubbling Muck Discussion
1 week ago
Pretty classic monoblack big mana. I love you for including Dauthi Embrace, one of my favorite pieces of tech for mono black.
1 month ago
Yeah it really isn't needed in this. In the cEDH meta, it's not viable enough to warrant a 99 slot in accelerated Storm generals like Jeleva, Yidris, and more recently Kess. Especially when our main ways of generating sufficient mana are our lands with High Tide and Bubbling Muck, something that untaps all nonland permanents doesn't really benefit us as greatly as it does ElfBall decks, for example.
With the way this works, you're primary goal is to get AdNaus. The moment it resolves you should win.
Just for reference, the Tiered lists for both Jeleva and Yidris storm builds also do not run Paradox Engine, and I could imagine those Deckmasters probably came to the same conclusion.
Appreciate the suggestion though!
1 month ago
I agree with sonnet666 here. We are considering the power of every commander ever printed, and demoting them just like that would be an error I think.
I think a good example is Karador. Yes, sure Thrasios + Tymna murdered him, I agree on that. But, the deck running Karador is still playable, I mean it is nowhere complete jank, and still on par with something such as The Mimeoplasm, also outclassed by Thrasios + Tymna.
I think we should calm down on demoting everything and changing everything. Let's colleclt some datas. Let's gather some decklists. Let's optimize things a little before moving that many cards around. And I won't even join the Kess discussion...
Even if some people are not considering it really good, I like Dralnu quite a lot. He offers some potential of a cheap, easy to build UB storm deck which might be a good entry point for cEDH, a good way to learn how to play storm and Doomsdayon a somewhat budget (like I am forced on now because of school). However, like it have been said before me, it has a pretty huge drawback. If ever damage was to be dealt to him, we are pretty dead. Sacrificing our board to a damage spell would be pretty bad. Sure, I have not saw a lot of damage spells in cEDH (except for the ones mentionned by sonnet666, even those I have not really seen...). Definitely does not belongs to tier 4. I would agree on moving this commander up to tier 2.5. He is not the most powerful cEDH deck ever built. However, the deck can win without the commander, and if the commander survives to untap, it is pretty much a guaranteed win, since we could go double High Tideand double Bubbling Muckin a single turn, Paradox Engine...
Now, onto Reaper King. There definitely is some sleeping potential over there. Food Chain generating so much mana from our commander... We have seen what 5c Chain decks are available (just take a look at General Tazri if you don't know what I mean). Sure, the deck will be nowhere as strong, but I definitely think there are a lot of things that could be done with it. I am not sure going for a BloodPod deck is the best idea, even if it seems attracting. I will have to look more in depths to it before moving it though, it is too early to say. But it has a lot of potential.
1 month ago
Some budget land ideas as well as some ideas to support your largely basic landbase, starting with the latter
same goes for basic islands and High Tide, easily ramping you to victory at very low $ and mana cost
Some budget yet value non-basics to consider:
1 month ago
Do we really need a new Kess build? It's likely going to look almost exactly the same as reversemermaid's list with a couple more instants and sorceries...
thegigibeast, I agree with all of those placements, except maybe Taigam, Sidisi's Hand. I'd put him in T3 until someone makes a deck that's good for T2.5. He's a 5 mana commander that doesn't combo with anything or generate card advantage really, so I don't think he should start out high before someone proves he's worth it.
A couple notes:
Waitora can combo with Breath of Fury on a token and a haste granter to give you infinite attack steps so long as your opponents have no creatures. Token/Stax is probably a viable archetype for her, with that as a wincon.
I don't think it's fair to evaluate Nazahn without posting his hammer:
Since he puts it onto the battlefield, and it attaches itself to something, having him as a commander is essentially like having a 6 mana Sigarda's Aid plus Darksteel Plate in the command zone. Still T3 I think, but pretty good for a "equipments matter" gameplan.
1 month ago
Ok, so as I saw a lot of people have already put up their impressions about the new cards being spoiled, but I just want to hop in the hype train and do the same ;) So here are the images of the cards and what I think about them:
Will this one replace Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge? Probably, but at the same time her ability is somewhat different. As stated before, she can't cheat big CMC spells, but I think the pros are enough to play her instead as de facto grixis storm commander. She can be used the turn she comes into play, and you can play any instant or sorcery from your graveyards back once per turn. I mean, this can be pretty powerful with rituals such as Dark Ritualor Cabal Ritual, but I think a mucktide deck can use it really better and play back High Tideor Bubbling Mucktwice. This is a pretty solid general, Tier 1
This is far less esciting for multiplayer commander, and I would say Tier 4/5. However, if you are playing Duel Commander, either MTGO or French, this will be a powerhouse in this format. This list is about multiplayer though, so not really good for us.
Meh... Maybe I am missing something, but this is not really exciting for us. Pretty voltron, and the clause that you can use the ability only once per turn during your turn makes it nothing but Tier 4 in my opinion. Maybe I am missing something but...
This is already a better vampire. With the tokens he creates, we could think about some stax builds, using the tokens as fodders or ways to break parity... There are some restrictions but... And he could be used as a finisher to pump your entire army after that, closing by combat after a lock. Tier 3
This one got me excited. I mean, I know it is a 4 mana commander, but there could be some ways to win on the spot. Many people have said it is a worst Necrotic Ooze in the command zone, but I would say it is more than that. This could be used to make a grixis nooze deck, or something similar, and I think it could be pretty good. We could use Mirror-Mad Phantasm with our commander to pitch the entire deck in the graveyard, Dread Returnsomething and win from there. I wont list the entire combo here but you guyz understand. I could also see something good by exiling a mana rock such as Gilded Lotusand having some fun with Paradox Engine. A lot of combos available, this as a lot of potential. Tier 2, at least 2.5
Not sure about this one, but he seems good for a control shell with a big reanimator package. Simply by being on the battlefield, he can let you dig a lot AND throw useless big creatures like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur(useless cause you wont cast them) into the graveyard, ready for reanimation. I think he could be better than The Scarab God, letting you dig better IMO. This as some potential, i would see Tier 2.5
High cost, nothing for combos, needs to connect with damage... Tier 5/4
Well, too slow to be an actual thing, but still has some great effects if it ever sticks around. Simply for that, Tier 4
I could see this used as a stax deck, forcing opponents to get rid of creatures, and if they dont have any, create fodders to break parity on stax effects. Small potential, better commanders available out there, but still a good Tier 3
The most competitive deck I would think about right now would be running some elves as mana dorks and many hatebears. The thing is... Why running this over Captain Sisay...? Still, I would say this is Tier 3
The best idea I had so far would be running this as an elfball commander to be able to fetch Umbral Mantleor Sword of the Parunsfrom the command zone. Easy Tier 3, even if better commanders for elfball in those colors are available (like Selvala, Explorer Returned).
Meh, I dont really like this one, I don't know what to say except he reminds me of Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist... Tier 4
Now, I don't know if you guyz are excited like me about this one, but I think it will end up pretty decent (At least Tier 2.5 for now). There are lots of good wizards that can abuse the ETB, like Archaeomancer to go infinite with High Tideand Snap, Snapcaster Mage, Dualcaster Mage + Demonic Tutorto get both Ghostly Flicker and Essence Fluxand go infinite from there, Venser, Shaper Savant to combo with Paradox Engine or to simply be a big Boomerang, Azami, Lady of Scrollsherself could be in the deck... Many ways to abuse, many combos available I am pretty sure. Abusing spells like Ghostly Flickerand Essence Flux seems pretty good with this too.
This one will end up decent. There are lots of brews actually with this guy, from extra turns to control to Approach of the Second Sun, and I am sure we will end up with something good. Tier 2.5 for now.
Well... This is my favorite one from the set, so I am biased for sure, but I see a lot of potential in this guy as a storm commander (Tier 1) that could also be used as a 5c artifacts combo commander. Generating free mana is super important for storm, and the fact that he can be cast from fast mana is simply nuts. We are not even obligated to play him as a 5c commander, we simply need to cast 5 mono-colored spells to generate 10 mana and continue storming, which is I think pretty strong. This one will end up being the most powerful (alongside with Kess) from the precons I think.
Thoughts? Those are my comments on the spoiled legends, but I would like to know what you guyz think about the placements I have done. I am pretty happy to see all those new cards. Probably not as a big impact as last year's commander decks, but some pretty powerful commanders for sure. Tagging you sonnet666.
1 month ago
I love nekusar and everything about him, I started building him as soon as he was spoiled, and now have an insanely tuned and budgetless competitive multiplayer edh deck
Anyways, what would I recommend for budget casual constructed?
As you can see by my deck, i learned that nekusar loves Wheel of Fortune and is more of a spellslinger draw theme than zombie tribal.
That being said, if you want to build around the lich king, creatures should be your last priority,
In a 20 life format, nekusar only needs 3 "draw 7" or mass loot spells to kill an opponent, and thankfully a majority of these are cheap.
Second to wheels and forced draw, nekusar is kind of high cmc for a creature, so things like Nightscape Familiar can help you cast more spells faster, speaking of more spells, grixis has access to a beautiful array of rituals that you can chain into nekusar much earlier than turn 5 and also allow you to cast more wheels after refreshing your hand
The budget rituals include
Cards like Geth's Grimoire and Jace's Archivist can easily win you the game if left unchecked, and there are other forms of draw damage in Phyrexian Tyranny Fevered Visions Underworld Dreams Spiteful Visions
As far as cheap counterspells, Arcane Denial is BONKERS cuz it can deal draw damage with its draw, Sign in Blood is a cheap card draw that you can use to draw OR kill opponents by stacking it with nekusar.
Cards that save you from wheels decking you out
Other than "wheel" and countermagic, you can also mill opponents with Mindcrank or Sphinx's Tutelage, reanimate wheeled creatures with stuff like Stitch Together, or run discard like Despise or Duress, and Cephalid Coliseum is INSANE as a cheap 1-of in edh, id be scared to see what 3 or 4 could do.
Lastly, a spell decks worst weakmess is CREATURES
now im going to assume you're not going to be slinging Damnation around, but theres tons of budget alternatives in the likely case that opponents will have more creatures than you
And if you're still itching to run creatures even though i would not advise many, here are a few options thar nekusar has liked in the past
Hope this helps
1 month ago
Those are the priciest in the deck, though, most of the wheels and non foil cards were budget friendly.. yea i was restricted by budget for the first 3 years, but i built it more Fork / Dark Ritual + wheels, i find the upkeep draws like Howling Mine give your opponents too much card advantage/answers without Notion Thief and is just pure card advantage to opponents without nekusar or Underworld Dreams effects.
Some budget options
.. i could go on, i wasn't speaking purely of the budget cards i was just pointing out ive put 6 years and a lot of money into building mine so there are some budget ideas in that list