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You have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you gain 1 life for each card in your hand.
Venser's Journal Discussion
1 week ago
- Angelheart Vial - comes to mind as a first pick if you are in a creature heavy meta.
- Bow of Nylea or Druidic Satchel - both have multiple uses, but the incidental life gain is fine.
- Elixir of Immortality - I put this in everything, kinda messes with seasons past though.
- Exquisite Blood or Polluted Bonds - these will get hate but have really good life gain potential.
- Retreat to Kazandu - for when you play lands.
- Lifegift - for when ANYONE plays a land. This card is super under rated in games of 3-4 players. especially against ramp decks.
- Ivory Tower or Ivory Crane Netsuke or Venser's Journal - trigger on upkeep, dependent on hand size venser is the better of the 3.
- Thoughtleech or Lifetap or Roots of Life - depends on your meta, i think there are more of these.
- Skullmead Cauldron - discard outlet on top of life gain.
- Tower of Eons - HUGE mana sink, but I have a special place in my heart for this card.
2 weeks ago
@ MCJennings ,
The Sunforger -package still is a work in progress. I had in in the deck for a long time (half a year now) but always came upon the same problem: I didn't draw the Sunforger... If I finally did it anyway, it worked absolutely fine as a tutor-for-needed-answers-tool. If i'm being attacked I always can use Path to Exile or Swords to Plowshares . If there is an enchantment I really want to be gone I tutor up Return to Dust , Oblation or the like. If something really bad is happening I can cast Teferi's Protection to phase out and if I should be missing a landdrop I can cast Tithe to search for a couple of lands. Thanks to Mistveil Plains I am able to use a single spell as much as I want to, putting it back on the bottom of my library. The only problem: Sunforger was always hiding somewhere in my deck... That's why I added some new cards to the deck, that shall help me by searching the infamous hammer: Enlightened Tutor (can be used to tutor for everything you should be needing repeatedly via Sunforger + Plains) , Open the Armory and Steelshaper's Gift . These cards however have just been ordered and the deck needs to be playtested yet. As for the sunforgers wielder it will most of the time be Zedruu herself. I try to keep my Zedruu-triggers low till the endgame, only drawing a couple cards/ gaining a couple life through her ability. She usually isn't being targeted at all by my opponents and only dies due to a boardwipe from time to time. The main goal of the deck is to stay hidden and fly under the radar most of the time. This usually works and people don't seem to care to much about what the goat is doing with her hammer.
The Clever Impersonator really is a very versatile and amazing card I just came upon a few weeks ago. While I really like your idea of the Copy Artifact being a 2mana manarock, the Impersonator usually serves a different purpose, targeting cards like: Venser's Journal , Maze of Ith , maybe Propaganda or Rhystic Study . Using it to copy Bitter Feud also is quite funny, as thing are getting out of hand quite quickly when everyone is dealing double to four times the damage to each other... The most valuable target just might be Paradox Haze though... just imagine all the cards you will draw, all the life you will gain by having three upkeeps <3
The Crown of Doom however simply is a very political card you can gift to your opponents to spread some bad blood. You usually want them to kill each other until only one opponent is left as it might be difficult to deal with a larger number of opponents when it comes to the winning-part. The important part about this card is that your opponents aren't allowed to give it back to you --> you are safe from the crown and draw cards from it while everyone else is trying to kill eachother... The Howling Mine is part of the grouphug-theme of the deck. While it of course allows everyone to draw an additional card, you are drawing one more card --> getting some extra value as soon as it is gifted away. Additionally the mine is a card your opponents don't want to get rid of --> it stays on the board longer --> you are getting more value from it over the time.
You are right about the Mindslaver being a lockdown with Academy Ruins aswell as with Trading Post + Forbidden Orchard . While I could be going for the easy win with Approach of the Second Sun or the like I really do love to have me some jank-wincons to make it more of a challenge to win for me. All of my wincons are hard work to pull of, but that is implied in the decks idea :)
I have had Tragic Arrogance in the deck for a long time and I know what it can do >:) problem is that I do need the Supreme Verdict for its ability of not being able to counter it, I need the Austere Command to pull of a "combo-win" with Enchanted Evening + Boros Charm and need Cyclonic Rift to deal with an indestructible board... or simply because it is awesome... :D I haven't got a free slot for another boardwipe though, so the Tragic Arrogance sadly needed to go :(
About the cards you mentioned: Bitter Feud simply is a fun political card that can be used to get rid of a very unpleasant opponent. Simply choose him and another player who will untap before him and he will usually finish him of. You can gift the enchantment away for Zedruu-value and rechoose its targets by bouncing it back to your hand/ blinking it with Venser, the Sojourner . Open the Vaults is very often a game winning card in this deck, as I'm usually getting back every single card in my graveyard. Cast this after a boardwipe or after you've been milled for some time and your board will be full of value all of a sudden. As this deck is focused around artifacts and enchantments you are usually getting more value out of this card than your enemies... Enchanted Evening + Greater Auramancy is a combo I have in the deck for board-protection during the lategame. As my deck doesn't heavily evolve around gifting permanents and uses Zedruu's ability only for some extra value or political offerings I usually can pull this of without having to much trouble. At the time I cast these cards I ususally have 3-4 of my permanents allready be sitting on my opponents boards so I don't need to gift away cards anymore. The only thing that doesn't work is winning to Illusions of Grandeur unless you gift the auramancy away to an opponent first.
I hope this helps understanding how the deck is meant to work, thank you for your time and may the goats blessing always be with you! :)
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Glad I could be of some help eleutheria_has_won.
Just suggested the eldrazi because I thought it would be fun. Animar will definitely find a place in my eldrazi deck I'm building though :P
kysnou on Locust God
1 month ago
This is a fantastic deck for its cost. Really budget and I like that. There are a lot of upgrades you can make if you have the cash to spare.
Wheels: Teferi's Puzzle Box, Memory Jar (surprisingly cheap), Wheel of Fate, Wheel of Fortune (the most expensive option), Reforge the Soul, Winds of Change, Memory, Magus of the Jar, and Magus of the Wheel. You definitely shouldn't have all of these, just a few. Wheels are great regardless, but with your commander out, then you get a load of little bugs to go with the card advantage.
Bug buffs: Mindwrack Liege to make all the bugs bigger threats. Altar of the Brood is a good alternate wincon. Loyal Drake guarantees a locust each turn, in case everything goes wrong. Coat of Arms makes all the bugs massive.
Elixir of Immortality makes it harder to deck yourself.
Skullclamp to turn you bugs into more cards, and thus more bugs.
Gamble to grab combo pieces.
A Counterspell and Rewind are good spells to have. I noticed your initial decklist is a little light on removal, so a Blasphemous Act and a Vandalblast will be fine, along with any others you can think of.
This is a fantastic deck, these are just some upgrades I would suggest. I would also make your mana base a little better with some more dual lands and mana rocks, but usually those are the most expensive cards to grab.
1 month ago
Here might be some cards that can be helpful:
- Lightning Greaves
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Swords to Plowshares
- Path to Exile
- Dawn of Hope
- Enlightened Tutor
- Return to Dust
- Rebuff the Wicked
- Faith's Reward
- Authority of the Consuls
- Serra Ascendant
- Soul's Attendant
- Lapse of Certainty
- Scout's Warning
- Tragic Arrogance
- Blind Obedience
Cards suggested to cut:
- Ajani's Pridemate
- Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
- Atalya, Samite Master
- Banisher Priest
- Gerrard Capashen
- Martyr of Sands
- Paladin of Atonement
- Sunscorch Regent
- Celestial Convergence
- Celestial Mantle
- Cradle of Vitality
- Nimbus Wings
- Ordeal of Heliod
- Angel's Mercy
- Divine Verdict
- Meditation Puzzle
- Renewed Faith
- Safe Passage
- Planar Cleansing
- Chalice of Life Flip
- Venser's Journal
The reasons the card listed above to cut is one of few reasons either they don't do much, better alternatives, or they don't further your game plan enough to make an impact. By meta I meant, the type of decks you are facing as your meta might be filled with more aggro players than if that's the case you might want to add in a Ghostly Prison for example, or if you are facing a lot of reanimation decks than adding in a Relic of Progenitus or Tormod's Crypt can be fairly helpful. Against control players than you might want to consider a lot Silence/Orim's Chant effects.
Aside from that, some non-budget friendly cards are the obvious Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Teferi's Protection, or Vedalken Orrery. Winding Canyons can also be helpful to flash out Evra or your Felidar Sovereign to sneak in that win.
Hope that helps!
1 month ago
Well, I offered a couple ideas at the top of the thread but at the time you were still trying to thin the deck down to 100. I’ll give you a bunch more ideas now:
- Rest in Peace + Energy Field or Web of Inertia. I ran this combo for quite awhile in my Zur deck till I discovered the solemnity/glen elendra/kithkin spellduster combos. After that I had to find a different immortality combo so I could have a graveyard. That led me to...
- Phyrexian Unlife + Solemnity makes it so you can’t die either. Coupled with Necropotence you can pay all your life to put most of your library in your hand in one shot. Speaking of Necropotence...
- Necropotence + Zur's Weirding is a combo that will lock your opponents down by denying them acces to their libraries. You just pay the life to make them discard every card they draw. The way you get enough life to keep paying the life is Venser's Journal. And opponents can’t force you to discard squat because of Necropotence. You aren’t actually drawing cards.
- Riptide Chimera + Second Chance: this gives you infinite turns or enough to setup what you want. Just pay your life down to less than 5 with Necropotence to start this combo. Just put second chance’s ability on the stack then return it to your hand with the chimera before it is sacrificed. I have checked with judges on this combo and according to them it does work.
- Eidolon of Rhetoric or Arcane Laboratory + Riptide Chimera stops your opponents from playing multiple spells per turn but lets you cast as many as you want during your turn. And with your Grand Abolisher opponents wont be able to do anything about it.
- Eidolon of Rhetoric or Arcane Laboratory + Jace, Unraveler of Secrets: get to Jace’s ult and opponents are screwed the rest of the game.
If you use the Enchanted Evening, Greater Auramancy, Copy Enchantment combo I mentioned at the top of this comment thread then the only thing opponents can do to stop any of the above combos is use board wipes but with Glen Elendra and Solemnity that won’t be possible. Would also be a good idea to run at least 12 counterspells to protect against anything else they might be able to do. Also use a bunch of tutors to grab combo pieces that you are unable to Zur out. Plea for Guidance is a good one since you can grab 2 in one shot. Hope these ideas help you out. Good Luck.
1 month ago
Isochron Scepter seems out of place because you only have seven cards it works with. I think Worn Powerstone is too slow, instead I would run some talismans (Talisman of Progress). I would only keep Torpor Orb if you decide to make this deck more control heavy. An Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre to stop mill seems good in place of Commit. I would try to get nonbasic lands so you don't end up mana screwed. Shocks and fetches are ideal but if you don't want to spend that much, life-gain taplands and others should suffice.
Cards I like for this deck:
Austere Command, Vindicate, Killing Wave, Toxic Deluge, Karlov of the Ghost Council, Vona, Butcher of Magan, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Souls of the Faultless, Drogskol Reaver, Tainted Sigil, Well of Lost Dreams, Venser's Journal, Polluted Bonds, Moat, Sphere of Safety, Bojuka Bog, Glacial Chasm
The deck looks good though, hope it really polishes up!
Venser's Journal occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
U/R (Izzet): 0.09%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.09%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.08%