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Hero's Downfall Discussion

rorofat on Junk Midrange [Post Rotation]

1 hour ago

I love the list, but here are my suggestions:

1. The Manabase

In a deck like this, you probably want about 12 lands that enter tapped, and 13 lands that don't. For the tap lands, I suggest:

 3 Sandsteppe Citadel
 4 Temple of Plenty
 3 Temple of Malady
 2 Temple of Silence

For the non-tap lands, I would do something like:

 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
 4 Windswept Heath
 1 Plains
 2 Forest
 3 Llanowar Wastes
 2 Caves of Koilos

2. The Maybeboard

1x Abzan Ascendancy - If you go midranged, this would be good as a 2-3 of, in a slower deck, not so much.

1x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes - Very grindy, not great for a controlish version because of is tendency to hit more lands/instants/sorceries.

1x Anafenza, the Foremost - GREAT in a midrangy shell.

1x Banishing Light - A very strong card, I suggest 2-3 or even 4 in the mainboard.

1x Brimaz, King of Oreskos - Once again, GREAT in midrange.

1x Despise - Depending on how much mono-red/walkers becomes post rotation, a good sideboard card.

1x End Hostilities - If you are playing controlish, you want this. If you aren't, get it out of the window.

1x Fleecemane Lion - Midrangy. Nuff said.

1x Garruk, Apex Predator - Slower, a great finisher in control, but not great in midrange.

1x Genesis Hydra - OK in control, bad in midrange, horrible in aggro.

1x Liliana Vess - Sideboard card unless you are playing junk walkers...

1x Rakshasa Deathdealer - Strong finisher for a junk control deck, good for midrange, all around decent.

1x Reaper of the Wilds - See above.

1x Setessan Tactics - Not good unless you have a lot of mono blue in your meta.

1x Soldier of the Pantheon - Midrangy, I expect it to be AMAZING post rotation.

1x Suspension Field - Not as good as Banishing Light ...

4x Temple of Malady - Didn't we discuss this?

4x Temple of Plenty - See above.

1x Utter End - MAINDECK IT. DO IT NOW.

1x Wingmate Roc - Midrangy, OK in slower decks.

3. The Control-Midrange Predicament

Personally, I think the midrange deck without Thoughtseize would be better until the meta settles down and you can see what your up against. So for midrange, I would have your non land spells to be:

 3 Anafenza, the Foremost
 4 Fleecemane Lion
 3 Rakshasa Deathdealer
 4 Siege Rhino
 2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
 3 Courser of Kruphix
 4 Soldier of the Pantheon
 2 Reaper of the Wilds
 3 Abzan Charm
 3 Hero's Downfall
 2 Abzan Ascendancy
 2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

If you decide control, I would go with something along the lines of:

 4 Thoughtseize
 4 End Hostilities
 4 Hero's Downfall
 3 Utter End
 3 Banishing Light
 2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
 1 Garruk, Apex Predator
 1 Nissa, Worldwaker
 3 Reaper of the Wilds
 4 Rakshasa Deathdealer
 3 Abzan Charm
 4 Read the Bones

Nice deck! +1 from me :)

shuflw on was Dimir control ever a ...

5 hours ago

some people played esper to gain access to Thoughtseize , Hero's Downfall , Obzedat, Ghost Council , among other things, but the azorius trifecta (Supreme Verdict , Sphinx's Revelation and Detention Sphere ) made it hard to justify playing control without playing blue and white.

Endofthe-underground on Minotaur Aggro

6 hours ago

You're gonna have to replace Doom Blade soon if you want to keep your deck standard. I suggest Bile Blight or Hero's Downfall at least that's what's in my Minotaur deck

EmpyreGaming on Purphoros' Popcorn: Mono Red Aggro

12 hours ago

haynienhoj

Personally, I find 2x Hammer of Purphoros to be somewhat greedy. Sometimes, not often but sometimes, you'll end up drawing two in one game, and that can spell doom for an aggro list.

I really like your list though! Great minds do think alike! I actually tried Prophetic Flamespeaker in this deck, but found him to be a little too slow and made for some clunky, instantly-Hero's Downfall 'd turn 3 plays, when I could have just played Goblin Rabblemaster .

pkbrainfreeze on Junk Walker Control

13 hours ago

With the prevalence of Stormbreath Dragon . I think you should up the amount of Hero's Downfall to at least 3. Or potentially SB against any deck using it.

kmcree on Avengers, Assembleeeeeeeeeeeeee!

13 hours ago

What about Ajani and/or Garruk?

Might also want some card draw, either Read the Bones or Sign in Blood ?

Removal also wouldn't hurt. Hero's Downfall and /or Bile Blight could be nice.

buildingadeck on B/W aggro (kans)

14 hours ago

I agree. I'd side in Banishing Light for play against Whip of Erebos and the Delve mechanic and main Hero's Downfall .

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