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Hero's Downfall Discussion
1 day ago
1 day ago
Yesterday I started brainstorming up a deck - mono black control, based around Demons. What are you guys favorite/opinions on best demons? Most of the ones I added to the deck are more straight forward, based around creature control. The short list of demons is as follows:
1x Griselbrand - this guy is the king of the deck, he's an obvious shoo-in in any self-respecting demon deck.
2x Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis - When he swings alone, the opponent sacrifices a creature, plus having Exalted. He's a fun critter.
2x Reaper from the Abyss - his Morbid ability allows you to get double the bang for your buck off Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis' ability, or the opponent trying to get a Desecration Demon off their back, or even when you destroy a creature with Victim of Night or Doomblade.
4x Desecration Demon - This is one tasty demon. I love it. 2BB for a 6/6 flyer? So the opponent can tap it by sacrificing a creature, but with me constantly removing their creatures, it's doubtful they'll be willing to sac their own FOR me. Even if they do, it gets +1/+1 bigger.
2x Rune-Scarred Demon - One of my favorite demons, I like to look at him as a 4/5 cost 6/6 flyer and a 2/3 cost Diabolic Tutor built into one. 7 is pricy, but I gladly pay it. Also, he's got some pretty wicked art, and he was one of the first demons I owned in Magic, so I'm attached.
I'm interested to see what demons you come up with in the comments.
This leaves me with early game strategy. Do I go with small 2/3 cmc utility creatures (something black is lacking compared to other colors) such as Hypnotic Specter, Geralf's Messenger, Gatekeeper of Malakir, or maybe Vampire Nighthawk? Or do I go full disruption/removal for early game with cards like Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek, and trusty Victim of Nights? I will also be running Hero's Downfall, to be reserved for bigger threats, and walkers. Sideboarding Damnation (even though it's like a $65 card) because it's such a beautiful card (I love the art) and the name goes with the theme of this deck (I'm a nerd), because who doesn't like wiping creatures without the chance of regeneration for 2BB? More to be moved into the deck in case I'm playing against an agrro deck, or I'm facing down a horde of tokens, etc.
3 days ago
I would suggest switching out Choice of Damnations for a Sol Ring, simply because your opponent is most likely to choose the number 1 and take that as damage to life and you could use the extra mana rock.
You could also very easily include Ivory Tower as a way to gain back life with all your card draw. It also goes well with Phyrexian Arena. I would suggest cutting Corrupt for either of those to help bring down the mana curve a little unless you include more mana rocks.
Hopefully these suggestions help out!
6 days ago
I actually have a Gisa and Geralf deck myself, so I can give you a few pointers:
I personally prefer the self-mill route, since it fills up your graveyard quite easily. I bet you can cut cards depending on which route you choose to go.
As for more generic cards, I find both Commander's Sphere and Chromatic Lantern a tad redundant, because there's only really two colors. Murder can also be cut, because it's outclassed by Hero's Downfall, which I see you already have.
Hope this helps!
1 week ago
As for the other cards..
Abrupt Decay is premium modern removal that kills most major threats in the game such as Liliana of the Veil, Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant, and Jace, Telepath Unbound Flip. Take out the doom blade and the explosive vegetation (which does no good whatsoever as a singleton here) and add two decays and put two more in the sideboard
As I mentioned before, I would replace the banners with some number of discard. The banners are going to slow you down more than help and you definitely want to be holding up counterspells turn three. Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize are the best ath this. I would run two thoughtseize and at least three inquisitions here and take out the mirror mockery to make room for the third inquisition.. Duress and despise are good budget options to run in that spot.
Switch Remand in place negate. Same maga, draws a card, and sows your opponent down a turn. Three should suffice just fine. Negate is too restrictive. Remand is also a killer tempo play.
Dissipate would probably be better than cancel in this deck.
Swap all seven tap lands our for the fetches and shocks. They are way faster and make your mana fixing that much better
As we mentioned Birds of Paradise is far superior to the elves in this deck.
I would replace all of the servant of the scales with Serum Visions which is infinitely better draw power and replace palace familiar with non-conditional removal such as Hero's Downfall or more counterspells. This is a good spot to flex with your sideboard.
What is important to note is that exploit cards can exploit themselves as a legal target in a pinch.
1 week ago
I suggest ~23 land looking at your mana-curve. Bile Blight and Torpor Orb would be good in the sideboard. Ruinous Path is slightly better than Hero's Downfall just because it has another option for the late game.