Skinrender

Skinrender

Creature — Zombie

When Skinrender enters the battlefield, put three -1/-1 counters on target creature.

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Skinrender occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.01%

Golgari: 0.09%

Skinrender Discussion

Daedalus19876 on hapatra test

1 week ago

IzmAYAYA: The best advice I can give is that high-power creatures are not very powerful: life totals matter a lot less than in EDH. For example -- Nessian Boar is an actively awful card in EDH, because your opponent will almost always be happy to get a bunch of cards, especially since they can plan around it (because it doesn't have haste). And even if it goes through -- who cares about 10 damage? It's only 1/4 of a single opponent's life total (or, put another way, 1/12 of the total damage you'll need to do over the game). So cards like Knight of the Ebon Legion, Nessian Boar, Questing Beast, Lovestruck Beast, etc aren't very good in 40-life multiplayer, because the type of pressure you have to apply is different.

Sisters of Stone Death CAN be fine, but she's very VERY mana intensive. I'd only run her if you run a lot more ramp.

I'd also tentatively recommend against Skinrender, because it only gets you a single snake. Still, depending on your meta, it can be pretty sweet.

I'm not a huge fan of Vampiric Rites or Awakening Zone, I find they're both a bit slow and high-mana for what they do.

Both of your PWs seem... so-so, and too high-cmc; if you want to run a planeswalker I'd recommend Vraska, Golgari Queen. She did good work for me once upon a time, since you can protect her well, she draws cards by sacrificing excess tokens, and her third ability is absolutely brutal.

I didn't love Uncage the Menagerie when I ran it (remember that all the creatures have to have cost exactly X, no more and no less). But it might work better for you, keep me updated on it.

I'd highly recommend Eldrazi Monument if you can afford it.

Finally, I'd generally recommend lowering your curve. My deck barely gets away with 34 lands and 13 other mana sources, and I have a much lower curve than you. I would suggest starting with 35 lands and at least 5 mana rocks/dorks, and work from there. I'd aim for an average CMC around 3 -- anything over 5 mana should threaten to win the game IMMEDIATELY, within a turn cycle or two.

Hope this helps! (Oh, and you can mark a deck's format as "Commander", and put the commander in the correct place by typing [asterisk]CMDR[asterisk] on either side of her.)

Red_X on Mono-Black ETB

2 weeks ago

This would be an example of one of the best midrange decks in Modern right now, Jund: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-jund-46470#paper

A midrange deck wants to have the strongest cards at each point on the mana curve, and wins by having cards that are just better than your opponents. In the case of Jund, your mono red opponent's Monastery Swiftspear gets embarrassed by Tarmagoyf, and Wrenn and Six is a whole lot better than something like Snapcaster Mage from azorious control.

Now, as for changes, I will tell you what I would do, but you can take only some of the suggestions and make the deck your own.

First, remove anything that costs 5 or more mana except possibly Gray Merchant of Asphodel, along with all of your ramp or land search cards like Armillary Sphere and Cabal Stronghold. You want to put on pressure early and destroy your opponent's creatures, and you can't do that if you are spending mana trying to ramp or have big creatures stuck in your hand.

Second, remove all of the artifacts you have left, with the possible exception of Panharmonicon. Panharmonicon is really fun and I would up it to 3 copies if you really want to go all out on the ETB abilities, but just know that it won't be the most competitive. The rest of your artifacts are really only good when you're already winning, and the majority of the time they would be better as another creature or a piece of disruption.

Third, remove some of your weaker creatures. Fourth Bridge Prowler is decent if your local scene has a lot of decks like spirits and bant snowblade where decks have a lot of creatures with one toughness, but it's a lot weaker if your opponent's are playing big creatures or no creatures at all. Burglar Rat and Yarok's Fenlurker are often weaker than Brain Maggot or Kitesail Freebooter since opponent's can choose the weakest card in their hand to give up with your current line up, but with a switch you get to choose what to get rid of (Yes, they get their card back if your creature dies, but they generally have to use a removal spell on a 1/2 creature and don't get to play their card as early as possible, so you end up ahead). If you decide to play a lot of those, Wasteland Strangler can be a cheaper Skinrender and prevent your opponent from getting those cards back when your disruption dies. Quag Vampires is never an impressive card, and Cauldron Haze is really awkward to play because you really want to be using all of your mana each turn to deploy threats, and you very rarely will have 2 mana open, haze in hand, and not want it to be removal or disruption.

Fourth, add more disruption and removal. Cards like Inquisition of Kozilek and Victim of the night will help supplement your creatures ETBs by either being cheaper or at instant speed. Disruption is essential against control and combo decks so that you can get rid of sweepers like Supreme Verdict, win conditions like Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, or their combo spell like ad nauseum. Removal is required to deal with creatures from aggro and midrange, along with big beaters like Primeval Titan in big mana decks (Tron, Amulet Titan, etc.)

Finally, play multiples of the stronger cards, go up to at least 23 lands, and fill out the rest of the deck with meta game cards. Wrench Mind and Despoiler of Souls can be solid against control, Gifted Aetherborn and Nyxathid are good against aggro, and things like Sign in Blood and Pack Rat give the edge in midrange matches. Pick whichever ones best address your local meta/ you like the best, and then you'll use your sideboard to cover other matches.

You'll also want a sideboard if you're actually playing at a local tournament, but start with the main deck first to figure out what you actually need to sideboard for.

A couple of additional resources: For figuring out how many lands: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewer-s-minute-how-many-lands. For a more in depth explanation of Mid range decks: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/how-build/how-build-midrange-2017-02-07

Finally, if you're looking for ideas, just google " modern mono-black midrange budget" and you'll find a decent number of options.

I hope this helps.

dadragonman on DESECRATION 101

3 months ago

but you have that. Skinrender

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Hapatra's Poison

3 months ago

Hi there!

Based on your post I see that you have reached the dreaded "I need to cut the last few cards" part of deck building.

One thing I always do at this point is to create custom categories for the various aspects of my deck. For example, you could make "add -1/-1 counter", "profit from -1/-1 counter", "ramp", "card draw", etc, categories. This always help me organize the focus of the deck, locate cards that are off theme or oddly specific, as well as find areas where I am imbalanced (i.e. too much removal and not enough ramp).

A couple examples: Veil of Summer is a really good card, but it is pretty niche. If your meta isn't heavy blue-black or it isn't very competitive, then Veil may not be needed.

Another example is Ivy Lane Denizen . It may seem like making your 1/1 snakes into 2/2's is great, but is it really needed? Your snakes already have deathtouch so they automatically trade with anything in combat. The added 1 power on each snake is fine, but not game ending. Triumph of the Hordes , Craterhoof Behemoth , Finale of Devastation , and Beastmaster Ascension are all much better finishers and make Ivy Lane Denizen unnecessary in my eyes. If you are set on a running Ivy Lane Denizen then I would suggest trying out Path of Discovery instead. It still can put a +1/+1 counter on your snakes, but it also provides card advantage.

So in my opinion, I would consider cutting any of: Ivy Lane Denizen , Veil of Summer (depending on your meta), Eldrazi Monument , Ammit Eternal , and Bane of Progress (this is a very good card, but your deck relies too much on it's enchantments and artifacts). I would also consider cutting Blightsteel Colossus , but that is more of a personal opinion for me.

If you do find yourself wanting to consider other cards any of the following are pretty strong in Hapatra decks: Contagion Engine , Contagion Clasp , Blowfly Infestation , Carnifex Demon , Skinrender , and Crumbling Ashes .

I hope this helps and happy deck building!

bushido_man96 on Zombo-Combo

3 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions. I was eyeing Skinrender as well. It would be good against indestructible stuff, but would require multiple ETBs to take something out. I could probably part with Noble Benefactor as well, and may not need another tutor.

That should do it! I just need to cram in the last artifact for more combo goodness.

Esperkyde on Zombo-Combo

3 months ago

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of group hug cards, with few exceptions, so I would say Noble Benefactor has to go. It feels too risky playing against other decks and handing them a free card from their own deck to combo you with or for them to drop a Worldspine Wurm on the field that they were ramping for etc.

Consider Diabolic Intent as a replacement for him.

Definitely throw in Lord of the Accursed ; That card looks like a must have.

As to what to replace with him: I can see where it is useful and it might even take out a commander if you're lucky, however I would consider replacing Skinrender . I don't know how valuable the -3/-3 is to you in a multiplayer game other than the aforementioned taking out a commander like Rashmi, Eternities Crafter or etc. Just something to consider; Your deck looks so solid it's really hard to take out stuff. xD

TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash

5 months ago

Let's get down to business, shall we?

DELETE THIS

Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,

QUESTIONABLE

Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist

At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.


COMBO TIME

I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.

  1. The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

  2. Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,

  3. The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,

  4. ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,

MORE COMBO

You also have the 3 piece combo of

  1. Sanguine Bond
  2. Exquisite Blood
  3. Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst

I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning

If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.


LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ

Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition

The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.

EXTORT OP

Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer

Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.


Okay, it's Mana Time

Caged Sun

COOL LANDS

Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey  Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land

Mana Rocks

Cryptolith Fragment  Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market

For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.

Ramp

Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart

Lots of Mana Fast

Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned

Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.

Investments

Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate

A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.

Summary:

The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.


TRIBAL

Zombie Tribal

Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord

Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.

Vampire Tribal

Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper  Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,

If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.

To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...

Dowsing Dagger  Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos

Buff My Team!

Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd

Summary:

The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.


REMOVAL

Targeted Removal

Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood

Epic Board Wipes

Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection

Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.


Wow, I Hate Minorities

Wow, I hate tokens

Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair

Wow, Green is Cancer

Perish

Wow, I hate when other people play spells

Painful Quandary

Wow, I hate when other people attack me

No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls

Wow, I hate myself

Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )

Wow, I hate lifegain

Tainted Remedy , False Cure

Wow, I hate real board wipes

Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise

Wow, I hate burst damage

Palace Siege , Polluted Bonds

Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures

Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir

Wow, I hate this one person in particular

Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom


Lifegain

Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos

Protection

Rush of Vitality

Benefit from Death

Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past

Cool Card Draw

Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence

Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.

Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice

Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve

These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.


Storm Build Cards

Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith

The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .


Win Cons to think about

Woiteck on Nope

5 months ago

Most importantly Nest of Scarabs . Skinrender is also Nice.

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