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Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Uncommon

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Creature — Zombie

When Skinrender enters the battlefield, put three -1/-1 counters on target creature.

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Skinrender Discussion

Kogarashi on Do -1/-1 counters remove +1/+1 ...

2 months ago

Please link cards using double square brackets so it's easier to understand the question.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Skinrender

+1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters cancel each other out.

121.3. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it. See rule 704.

So Skinrender would put three -1/-1 counters on the targeted undying creature. Then as soon as someone would receive priority, state-based actions are checked, and one of each counter type would be removed, leaving two -1/-1 counters. If the three -1/-1 counters reduced the creature's toughness to 0 or less, it would also be put into the graveyard at this point, as all state-based actions are performed simultaneously, so make sure to do this to a tough enough creature.

For an example of how to link cards in the future, it looks like this:


Daedalus19876 on Toxic Relationship: Hapatra EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

Odysseus_97: It’s definitely not a BAD card and I’ve considered adding it here. But I generally... don’t want my removal at 5 mana? I play in a meta where my removal has to defuse early combo, whereas Windgrace's Judgment is more of a tempo/value piece.

Pabs4444: Honestly I don’t generally have TOO much trouble with mana here (my curve is low), though I’ve been considering going up to 33 land. I also generally don’t have a huge problem with Harbinger of Night: by the time it kills my commander it’s generally done it’s job. Still, it’s one of the weaker things in here, and I’d definitely cut it if there weren’t so few global -1 placement effects :/

(And Skinrender, at best, kills one thing and gives me one snake. Not overly a fan.)

Pabs4444 on Toxic Relationship: Hapatra EDH | *PRIMER*

2 months ago

Have any trouble with mana? Only 32 lands seems extremely low, especially when getting out your commander T2 is crucial to the deck. Also, Harbinger of Night seems counterintuitive as it will end up killing Hapatra. Maybe Skinrender could go somewhere in the deck?

Nugget_Decks on Make them wither

2 months ago

Thank you for your comment MeagherMan101! I think i'll swap Banewhip Punisher for Skinrender. I don't like the idea of Blowfly Infestation in this deck, because it can make infity combo w/ Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons + Obelisk Spider, but still going to take Everlasting Torment out of the deck,and maybe put it on the side board? dunno yet... Loved the idea of Viridian Longbow!! It combos really good w/ the deck.

MeagherMan101 on Make them wither

3 months ago

Ooh cool deck, never thought about having wither creatures fight opponents to make them weaker but it sounds awesome!

Definitely would recommend Skinrender for it's synergy with Necroskitter. Plus it looks like an Alien from AvP which is just a bonus.

Blowfly Infestation is a cool enchantment that, in my opinion, should replace Everlasting Torment. It seems a little bit pointless since almost all your creatures have wither anyways. I get the synergy with Heart-Piercer Bow but I think a Viridian Longbow would be better (or even a Pathway Arrows) because you can equip it to creatures you don't want to attack like Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons to ping their face and get a counter on a creature or put it on a wither creature when they have a big creature on the board you don't want to swing into.

cdkime on Do multiple -1/-1 counters apply ...

3 months ago

Atramentous - not true. The Scarab will die when state-based actions are checked, which will be upon resolution of Skinrender's ability. This will be after Nest of Scarabs ability is triggered and put on the stack, but before Nest of Scarabs resolves. As such, the Scarab will die first, then the tokens will be created.

Gordeaux - once you've had your question answered, there's a "Mark as Answer" button next to every each post. If you have no further questions, please mark an accepted answer to help with forum organisation. Thanks!

cdkime on Do multiple -1/-1 counters apply ...

3 months ago

Please link cards with double brackets, it makes things a little easier:


[[nest of scarabs]]


Nest of Scarabs

A creature dying to 0 or less toughness is a type of state-based action (Rule 704.5f). State-based actions check automatically whenever a player would gain priority.

A player cannot gain priority in the middle of spell or ability. As such, state-based actions will not check in the middle of Skinrender's ability.

So, Skinrender's ability will resolve and put all three -1/-1 counters on the Scarab Token, before state-based actions will be checked. All three counters will go the 1/1. This will result in Nest of Scarabs triggering and its ability going on the stack. State-based actions will check once Skinrender's ability resolves and the Scarab Token will die due to having less than 0 toughness. Then Nest of Scarabs will resolve and create three Scarab Tokens.

Pabs4444 on Toxic Relationship: Hapatra EDH | *PRIMER*

6 months ago

The second half of Grind can not be played as it is a white spell.

Skinrender, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Sidisi, Undead Vizier all seem sweet in this deck. I know it goes against killing the entire board slowly, Cryptolith Rite can ramp you like crazy, especially fun with a Throne of the God-Pharaoh out.

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