Awaken the Erstwhile

Awaken the Erstwhile

Sorcery

Each player discards all the cards in their hand, then creates that many 2/2 black Zombie creature tokens.

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Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) Rare

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Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Arena Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Standard Legal
Pioneer Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Brawl Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Awaken the Erstwhile occurrence in decks from the last year

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Awaken the Erstwhile Discussion

Strangelove on Anje Reanimator

1 month ago

+1! @Your post

I'd cut...

Zombie Infestation ... I like this card, but when are you going to draw the cards to fuel this? I'd say there are better discard outlets, eg. Skirge Familiar , Phantasmagorian , etc.

Bloodthirsty Blade ... fluffy, < Doom Blade , etc.

Boneyard Parley ... 7 mana for 2-3 creatures of your opponent's choice is so meh. < Balthor the Defiled , Twilight's Call , Command the Dreadhorde , etc.

Cut ... fluffy, weak removal, weak late game burn.

Anje's Ravager ... this card is awful. I'd rather play Sire Of Insanity or Awaken the Erstwhile if you're going to dump your hand... or Faithless Looting .

Bog Witch ... slow! Cut!

You might also go down to 34 lands and add a few more madness.

Good luck!

TitaniumTP on K'rrick Kobain and his Monster Mash

2 months ago

Let's get down to business, shall we?

DELETE THIS

Venser's Journal , Mindcrank , Armillary Sphere , Dash Hopes , Doomblade, Street Wraith , Leshrac's Sigil ,

QUESTIONABLE

Noosegraf Mob , Phyrexian Reclamation , Kaya's Ghostform , Blood Tribute , Whip of Erebos , Armillary Sphere , Reiver Demon , Pestilence Demon , Magus of the Mirror , Endling , Bloodthirsty Aerialist

At first glance these are what I think you should delete and think about deleting.


COMBO TIME

I notice that you have combo potential with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed . The only 2 card combo with him is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion . All other combos with him require 4 pieces.

  1. The man (zombie?) himself: Mikaeus, the Unhallowed

  2. Sac outlet - Viscera Seer , - Ashnod's Altar , - Carrion Feeder ,

  3. The Sacrifice (something with persist, or that can somehow remove the +1/+1 counter from Mikaeus, the Unhallowed ) - Lesser Masticore , - Putrid Goblin , - Skinrender if you put the 3 -1/-1 counters on itself each time it enters, - Puppeteer Clique , - Lingering Tormentor ,

  4. ALL THESE TRIGGERS - Bitter Ordeal for infinite exiling of decks, - Falkenrath Noble for infinite damage, - Vindictive Vampire for infinite damage, - Zulaport Cutthroat for infinite damage, - Vengeful Dead for infinite damage, only if sacrificed creature is a zombie, - Blood Artist for infinite damage, - Pitiless Plunderer for infinite mana, - Pawn of Ulamog for infinite colorless mana, - Deathgreeter for infinite life, - Smothering Abomination for infinite card draw,

MORE COMBO

You also have the 3 piece combo of

  1. Sanguine Bond
  2. Exquisite Blood
  3. Anything that either causes you to gain life, or an opponent to lose life - Leechridden Swamp , - Ebony Charm , - Death Cultist , - Nightmare's Thirst

I recommend using instant speed interaction for the 3rd piece of the combo, so you can respond to removal by winning

If you decide to follow The Way of The Combo, you should also add library searching effectz to help make sure you always find your pieces.


LIBRARY SEARCHIN EFFECTZ

Expedition Map for finding lands for ramp, or combo pieces if you go for the aforementioned Leechridden Swamp combo Scheming Symmetry , Behold the Beyond , Demonic Collusion , Diabolic Tutor , Final Parting , Mastermind's Acquisition , Doomsday , Demonic Collusion , Dark Petition

The more combo and storm heavy your deck is, the more search library cards you will want to add.

EXTORT OP

Basilica Screecher , Thrull Parasite , Syndicate Enforcer

Nothing much to add here, but extort is so broken in this deck. Extort will be extra powerful in storm builds.


Okay, it's Mana Time

Caged Sun

COOL LANDS

Castle Locthwain , swamp with benefits, Thespian's Stage , can become a copy of other dank lands like Temple of the False God and Cabal Stronghold , Crystal Vein , pop it on the turn where you're going to try and win, Westvale Abbey  Flip, potential wincon, Leechridden Swamp , potential combo piece and also fun to use with leftover mana, Bottomless Vault , probably sucks but you could use it in a storm deck, Memorial to Folly , Mortuary Mire , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , ramp that looks like a land

Mana Rocks

Cryptolith Fragment  Flip probably not good, Thran Dynamo , super epic, Hedron Archive , Prismatic Lens , Fractured Powerstone , you know you want this for the planeschase ability, Sisay's Ring , Ur-Golem's Eye , Liliana of the Dark Realms , Nirkana Revenant , Paradise Plume , Magus of the Coffers , Black Market

For mana rocks you want the best bang for your buck, since you can just pay life instead of {B}. I like the mana rocks that cost {4} but tap for {2}, and the ones that cost {2} and tap for {1}. The more control heavy your deck is, the more rocks you want.

Ramp

Wayfarer's Bauble , Burnished Hart

Lots of Mana Fast

Cabal Ritual , Bubbling Muck , Spoils of Evil , Culling the Weak , Sacrifice , Dark Ritual , Songs of the Damned

Getting giant bursts of mana is good in any mono Black deck, but you should invest more heavily the more combo and storm themed your deck is, since you want to pop off in a single turn and cast 1,000 spells.

Investments

Basal Sliver , Blood Pet , Bog Witch , Overeager Apprentice , Basal Thrull , Priest of Yawgmoth , Blood Vassal , Soldevi Adnate

A lot of these cards that are single time use mana sources would be great in a storm deck where you would just build up your load until you bust damage all over the faces of those unfortunate enough to be within 50m of you. They're also good in reanimation decks, which could utilize Phyrexian Reclamation to keep getting them back.

Summary:

The more control heavy your deck is, the more mana rocks you want. If you're going for combos then you want more quick mana. The only land I'm gonna have to 100% recommend is Thespian's Stage . Keep in mind that the more nonbasic lands you have in your deck, the less useful cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold will be.


TRIBAL

Zombie Tribal

Corpse Harvester , library search, Cemetery Reaper , lord, Undead Warchief , epic lord, Josu Vess, Lich Knight , wincon, Endless Ranks of the Dead , wincon, Death Baron , lord, Liliana's Mastery , lord, Graveborn Muse , card draw, Zombie Master , protection, Graf Harvest , team evasion, Fleshbag Marauder , saccy, Phyrexian Delver , recovery, Cryptbreaker , card draw, Lord of the Accursed , lord, Shepherd of Rot , hurty everyone, Stronghold Assassin , funny removal, Loyal Subordinate , Liliana, Death's Majesty , potential finisher, Grave Titan , Open the Graves , board wipe protection, especially good if you're going all in on creature aggro, Curse of Disturbance , Awaken the Erstwhile , once you're in an advantageous position just cast this and watch your opponents cry, Tombstone Stairwell , this would be especially epic if you have cards to buff your boys, Risen Executioner , lord

Some cards that could be spicy in zombie tribal. Epic combos would be lords such as Cemetery Reaper and Lord of the Accursed , and fatties such as Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight . Having tons of zombies also combos with Pontiff of Blight . I think that Eldrazi Monument in a zombie build is nightmare fuel.

Vampire Tribal

Sanctum Seeker , Kalastria Highborn , Blade of the Bloodchief , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch , Bloodline Keeper  Flip, Gatekeeper of Malakir , Nirkana Revenant , Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Sadistic Skymarcher , Defiant Bloodlord , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Butcher of Malakir , Cordial Vampire , Bloodtracker ,

If you decide vampire tribal is better, here are some options. I would only play cards like Blood Tribute if you're going vampire tribal, I don't think it's worth to play unless you can get more value than just chopping 1 player's life in half.

To Go with Your Creature Spam, Sir...

Dowsing Dagger  Flip, Mask of Memory , Necropolis Regent , Bloodforged Battle-Axe , Explorer's Scope , Throne of the God-Pharaoh , Whip of Erebos

Buff My Team!

Sword of the Paruns , Intimidation , Death Pit Offering , Eldrazi Monument , Obelisk of Urd

Summary:

The more of one tribe you have, the more synergy you have. Only include lords if you're all in on that tribe.


REMOVAL

Targeted Removal

Hero's Downfall , Vraska's Contempt , Murder , Murderous Rider , Noxious Gearhulk , Malicious Affliction , New Blood , Ruinous Path , Tendrils of Corruption , Bone Splinters , Liturgy of Blood

Epic Board Wipes

Decree of Pain , Crux of Fate , Kindred Dominance , Bontu's Last Reckoning , Do or Die , Hellfire , Necromantic Selection

Summary: Use more board wipes the more control heavy you want your deck to be. Try to choose targeted removal such that the end cost will only be {1} and some life, so that it will be as cheap as possible. This is especially important in storm builds. Since we play multiplayer quite a bit, you'll probably want to add extra board wipes, especially the ones that draw you cards or come bundled with reanimation.


Wow, I Hate Minorities

Wow, I hate tokens

Ritual of Soot , Force of Despair

Wow, Green is Cancer

Perish

Wow, I hate when other people play spells

Painful Quandary

Wow, I hate when other people attack me

No Mercy , Dread , Koskun Falls

Wow, I hate myself

Season of the Witch (okay, maybe not that much Revenge of Ravens )

Wow, I hate lifegain

Tainted Remedy , False Cure

Wow, I hate real board wipes

Sudden Spoiling , Mutilate , Languish , Massacre Girl , Golden Demise

Wow, I hate burst damage

Palace Siege , Polluted Bonds

Wow, I hate my opponents having creatures

Dictate of Erebos , Grave Pact , Butcher of Malakir

Wow, I hate this one person in particular

Curse of Vengeance , Trespasser's Curse , Curse of Fool's Wisdom


Lifegain

Profane Memento , Crypt Incursion , Vampiric Link , Loxodon Warhammer , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Cavalier of Night , Whip of Erebos

Protection

Rush of Vitality

Benefit from Death

Ogre Slumlord , Shadows of the Past

Cool Card Draw

Moonlight Bargain , Promise of Power , Succumb to Temptation , Ransack the Lab , Infernal Contract , Necrologia , Carnival of Souls , Grim Haruspex , Night's Whisper , Succumb to Temptation , Phyrexian Etchings , Cruel Bargain , Dark Deal , Foreboding Fruit , Live Fast , Painful Lesson , Necropotence

Add more card draw the more stormy you want your deck to be. Also try to add ones that will cost the least amount of mana if you take your commander's ability into account.

Card Draw Requiring Sacrifice

Altar's Reap , Costly Plunder , Morbid Curiosity , Bankrupt in Blood , Skulltap , Merciless Resolve

These will be better in decks where you're sure you'll have tons of creatures. So adding these into zombie tribal would probably be a good idea, since you have things like Army of the Damned and Josu Vess, Lich Knight that produce a million tokens.


Storm Build Cards

Aphotic Wisps , Cremate , Succumb to Temptation , Yawgmoth's Will , Ill-Gotten Gains , Priest of Forgotten Gods , Skirge Familiar , Rain of Filth , Dredge , Gravebind , Nighthaze , Street Wraith

The idea of a storm deck is to cast as many spells in one turn as possible, building up a fat storm counter to execute all who oppose us with our 3 finishers, which are Aetherflux Reservoir , Tendrils of Agony and perhaps Empty the Pits . You'll want lots of cheap spells that only cost {B} mana and replace themselves, such as Aphotic Wisps . One time use mana is also dank here, such as Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual , and creatures like Basal Thrull and Soldevi Adnate .


Win Cons to think about

Strangelove on Hogaak EDH

2 months ago

Hogaak! +1!

Dude! I think you're selling yourself short with this one! You could put wayyy more tokens into this and break it... get those Blood Artist triggers.

Feed the Pack , Korozda Guildmage ... sac Hogaak! Pricey, but... Ghoulcaller Gisa ???

Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder , Infernal Genesis , Awaken the Erstwhile , Plague of Vermin , Worm Harvest , Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Spider Spawning , Tombstone Stairwell ... Tendershoot Dryad ... I can go on :)

Saproling Symbiosis , Zombie Infestation ... maybe?

Stinkweed Imp ... more dredge!

Cryptolith Rite , Phyrexian Altar , and Ashnod's Altar are all amazing.

Hogaak was so good they had to ban him in Modern lol.

SleeplessPr1nce on First Attempt at Commander

5 months ago

You're on the right track for sure, you just need to focus in on what you want to do and cut the stuff you don't need. First, I would cut all the pirate cards; treasure tokens are great but cards like Prosperous Pirates are slow and inefficient, even for edh. Ruthless Knave is fine, but the rest are dead weight. You also don't need them for Revel in Riches to work; Torment of Hailfire can yield the same results under the right circumstances. I would also cut Archaeomancer , Saheeli's Artistry , Kaya's Ghostform , Grave Betrayal , Awaken the Erstwhile and Vraska, Relic Seeker ; you just don't need them.

Sultai is all about value, and Muldrotha is really just a big fat value engine, so the question to ask yourself is: "what can I get the most value out of for the least amount of effort?" Cards like Baleful Strix , Sidisi, Undead Vizier , and Acidic Slime can work wonders in Muldrotha. You can also run Siren Stormtamer and Glen Elendra Archmage to lock down your board state.

I would switch out Glaring Spotlight for Arcane Lighthouse if possible. Satyr Wayfinder instead of Elvish Rejuvenator , you want stuff in your yard, not at the bottom of your deck. If you can afford them, Waterlogged Grove and Nurturing Peatland would yield some good value. And finally, I don't know how strict your play group is about color symbols, but technically you can't play Kaya, Bane of the Dead in here. Edh follows a strict adherence to color identity, and Kaya having white mana symbols in her cost technically means you can't play her with a BUG commander. If you really want to play her, I would clear it with your play group first, although I think you'd be better off running Kiora, Master of the Depths instead.

Hope this helps.

SueMe on Hogaak: My Favorite (Infinite) Combo Deck

6 months ago

Great suggestions, thanks!

Okay, you got me. I was focusing so much on the combo aspect of this deck, that I (for some reason) took out Grafted Exoskeleton , which was a mistake. I need multiple ways of winning. Not just one.

Birthing Pod + Craterhoof Behemoth seems solid. I'll try to find some space for Craterhoof. I personally like Birthing Pod + Razaketh, the Foulblooded .

You're right about the Awaken the Erstwhile .

The reason I haven't been putting in cards like Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Creakwood Liege or even Monkey Cage , is they're on the high CMC side, and I wasn't really trying to go too deep into a token build. I feel like for Izoni in particular, she wouldn't actually give me that many tokens. A lot of the time, there's only 3 or 4 creatures in my graveyard.

I particularly like your Ooze Garden suggestion. 2-mana 8/8s seem pretty good.

I still need to do some more testing to see if cards like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord or The Gitrog Monster are worth it in the deck.

lilliaire on Hogaak: My Favorite (Infinite) Combo Deck

6 months ago

I find EDH Hogaak fascinating as a deck.

I don't see Grafted Exoskeleton on your list actually, though you mentioned it in the comments. There's also Glistening Oil if you haven't considered it.

Birthing Pod + Hogaak --> Craterhoof is a combo not on here which is pretty clean, if not infinite.

I've been playing with Carrion and testing Path of Discovery / Beastmaster Ascension . I also feel like if literally any deck can make Awaken the Erstwhile viable, it's this one.

Was surprised to see no Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord , Creakwood Liege , or Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , but I haven't played this deck much, just theorycrafted.

Cards you may not have heard of that combo with Hogaak: Ooze Garden , Monkey Cage (lol), and Reign of the Pit .

legendofa on Low-tier is okay. But winless?

6 months ago

I like that Narset + Induced Amnesia deal. Awaken the Erstwhile has been growing on my radar for a bit. Combining it with Bag of Holding seems a little fragile, but it also seems like a lot of fun. Thanks for the thoughts!

Legendary_penguin_of_death on Low-tier is okay. But winless?

6 months ago

I tried making a mono black discard deck on arena because I had most of the pieces anyway and it seemed poorly positioned. It got ran over by aggro and lost to powerful top decks against midrange. Control was the only matchup that seemed winnable. I think discard just doesn’t have the tools it needs to be good.

There are other more off the wall discard decks however which could be worth a try.

Narset + Induced Amnesia put this in a control shell and u will probably have a decent deck.

Another unique combo, that came with m20, Bag of Holding + Awaken the Erstwhile

Goodluck!

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